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 Posted: Thu, 9th Jun 2011 09:46 Post subject: Hypnagogic hallucination |
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Been suffering from this the last week. I have no idea where it came from, but when i try to sleep i get the nudging sensation down at my feet that someone under the mattress or whatever is pushing my feet. I also got a vibrating sensation in my feet around the same time which i find odd. Going to the doctor today and i expect nothing really as there seem to be no treatment for this and might persist through your entire life. I cannot focus on anything through the day, i just sit worrying about going to bed, yeah and the last 2-3 nights i have a real hard time getting sleepy, i was wide awake after 36 hours and took some allergy tablets which can make you a bit drowsy and that helped, last night i tried for a good 3 hours before i fell asleep. I find it odd so many symptoms appearing at once, there must/have to be some underlying condition.
Anyone got any input or similar experience to share?
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| Posted: Thu, 9th Jun 2011 09:59 Post subject: |
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Have you ever used or abused some kind of hard drug?
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| Posted: Thu, 9th Jun 2011 09:59 Post subject: |
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Drink something before going to sleep, beer or two, wine, whiskey, whatever makes you a little tipsy. Maybe it helps who knows.
Try sleeping a little more upright by putting up some pillows against the wall. I had to do this when I had trouble with sinuses.
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| Posted: Thu, 9th Jun 2011 10:02 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Thu, 9th Jun 2011 10:08 Post subject: |
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sounds also like what Nalo said, but along with lack of movement through the day or even longer  , try alot of stretching through the day of ur feet/ankles and rotation stuff of foot, work the lower leg muscles.. Do those areas ache or feel nicer when you really bend you're toes up and down to as far as you can manage?
could be spending to much time in bad posture etc... some nasty aches and pains come from alot of sitting time at a desk/pc etc.. Could always try some B12 suplements.
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| Posted: Thu, 9th Jun 2011 10:11 Post subject: |
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No, i haven't been using any drugs. Sleeping might be the problem, but i dunno for how long i need to keep a good sleeping pattern until something like this will vanish. I lie in bed just waiting for it to happen, can't help it, i just keep thinking about it. I just worry that it might become more severe like visual, auditory and such hallucinations.
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| Posted: Thu, 9th Jun 2011 10:40 Post subject: |
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Kinda sounds like anxiety to me - possibly a mild disorder. What's your general situation in life? Happy and content - or stressed out, depressed? Recent traumatic events that didn't affect you as much as you thought it would?
Some people have a very hard time detecting that there's something wrong, and the body eventually responds in weird ways.
Not saying it has to be anything like that - but it's a common enough occurrence.
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| Posted: Thu, 9th Jun 2011 10:48 Post subject: |
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Yeh you need some anti-depressants which will help the anxiety. Visit a doctor, they'll have you fixed in 2 weeks.
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| Posted: Thu, 9th Jun 2011 10:49 Post subject: |
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First of all, don't jump to conclusions.
Secondly, if it IS anxiety - stay away from medication unless it's the very last resort.
That's my advice, anyway.
I have more experience with this sort of thing than anyone would want.
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| Posted: Thu, 9th Jun 2011 10:58 Post subject: |
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Try sleeping pills?
| Lutzifer wrote: | | and yes, mine is only average |
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| Posted: Thu, 9th Jun 2011 10:58 Post subject: |
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| StrEagle wrote: | | Try sleeping pills? |
WTF?! Are you serious?
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| Posted: Thu, 9th Jun 2011 11:00 Post subject: |
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Stay away from sleeping pills as well. Find the root of the problem first, and speak with a professional if you're not sure yourself.
If you're comfortable doing your own research, I recommend scavenging the net for forums dealing with these symptoms and related problems.
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| Posted: Thu, 9th Jun 2011 11:01 Post subject: |
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Like method said, some weed, or like I said, a glass or two of some nice whiskey. It'll make you sleepy, relaxed and hopefully take your mind off of things.
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| Posted: Thu, 9th Jun 2011 11:03 Post subject: |
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I don't get it, what's wrong with sleeping pills?
| Lutzifer wrote: | | and yes, mine is only average |
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| Posted: Thu, 9th Jun 2011 11:06 Post subject: |
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| StrEagle wrote: | | I don't get it, what's wrong with sleeping pills? |
It depends on the person taking them.
But if you don't deal with the root problem, you run the very real risk of becoming dependant on taking pills to sleep.
The same is true for alchohol or medication in general.
Some people can handle it, and some can't. Unfortunately, if it is anxiety or a similar psychological issue - chances are you're not the kind of person who can handle it without undesirable long-term costs.
Better not to take the risk, unless there's no other way.
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| Posted: Thu, 9th Jun 2011 11:25 Post subject: |
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Yeah I'd recommend avoiding pills since you can become addicted/too dependent on them.
when I'm in dire need of relaxing or sleeping I roll a big hash joint and put on some gentle music, knocks me up gently
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| Posted: Thu, 9th Jun 2011 12:00 Post subject: |
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Yes, I think you're right, but my idea was, getting him to sleep 1-2 nights assisted, might lower his anxiety level enough, to not having to use them repeatedly. Still there's a possibility, that he's start depending on them - which sux even more..
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| Posted: Thu, 9th Jun 2011 12:10 Post subject: |
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| Casus wrote: | Kinda sounds like anxiety to me - possibly a mild disorder. What's your general situation in life? Happy and content - or stressed out, depressed? Recent traumatic events that didn't affect you as much as you thought it would?
Some people have a very hard time detecting that there's something wrong, and the body eventually responds in weird ways.
Not saying it has to be anything like that - but it's a common enough occurrence. |
My situation is bad. Living home, out of work for 2+ years, and now this. I would also avoid sleeping pills, but i don't know what to do.. Not getting any sleep and when i too, too little of it is very bad also and certainly does not help the situation. And i might be depressed. I do smile and all that, but i don't seem to be interested in stuff and the state of mine i am in now after this appear is worse. Almost terrified going to bed and lying there awaiting for it to happen and when it does i usualy relax a bit more as it's only gentle pushes i usualy feel. Have had a "push" or so perhaps 2-3 times, might also have been a spasm, I dunno. Marijuana is more than less impossible for me to obtain :/
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| Posted: Thu, 9th Jun 2011 12:21 Post subject: |
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| kenny64 wrote: | | Casus wrote: | Kinda sounds like anxiety to me - possibly a mild disorder. What's your general situation in life? Happy and content - or stressed out, depressed? Recent traumatic events that didn't affect you as much as you thought it would?
Some people have a very hard time detecting that there's something wrong, and the body eventually responds in weird ways.
Not saying it has to be anything like that - but it's a common enough occurrence. |
My situation is bad. Living home, out of work for 2+ years, and now this. I would also avoid sleeping pills, but i don't know what to do.. Not getting any sleep and when i too, too little of it is very bad also and certainly does not help the situation. And i might be depressed. I do smile and all that, but i don't seem to be interested in stuff and the state of mine i am in now after this appear is worse. Almost terrified going to bed and lying there awaiting for it to happen and when it does i usualy relax a bit more as it's only gentle pushes i usualy feel. Have had a "push" or so perhaps 2-3 times, might also have been a spasm, I dunno. Marijuana is more than less impossible for me to obtain :/ |
Anxiety is a bitch, because it's never a truly tangible fear. Anything can set it off, and then the fear is based on getting to that state again. The fear of the fear becomes the problem.
Fortunately, there are ways to deal with it.
You see, what you fear is the emotional state of distress - which CAN be controlled. You can't fully control your thoughts - as no one can do that. What you can learn to control, however, is your emotional reaction to those thoughts.
The key is to maintain an emotional state of reasonable calm - and not let the thoughts dominate.
If this is anxiety - and it sounds very much like it, as it's often provoked by external factors like stress and depression - you need to understand that it's not uncommon. It's not unnatural, and you're NOT going mad. Many, many people suffer from anxiety - and many don't even realise it.
My best advice is to seek a professional - but be determined not to use medication before you've tried everything else.
Beyond that, talk to your family and friends about your thoughts and fears - and you might be surprised to learn how many of them have experienced something like this, or at least related to it.
Lastly, take your time to read up on the Internet. Lots and lots of useful information from all the people suffering from similar problems.
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| Posted: Thu, 9th Jun 2011 12:36 Post subject: |
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No one i know of has had this :/ But is the hallucinations common for people with anxiety problems like i have?
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| Posted: Thu, 9th Jun 2011 12:43 Post subject: |
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| kenny64 wrote: | | No one i know of has had this :/ But is the hallucinations common for people with anxiety problems like i have? |
I've suffered from it myself, and yes - hallucinations can be part of it.
I had experiences of "floating outside my own body" and things of that nature.
But it's hard to know exactly what provokes it, and many of these anxiety disorders flow together. Read up on "Anxiety Disorder" - and you'll get more answers.
Only you can really know what might be wrong in your way of approaching your situation.
The rule of thumb is that if you know it's a hallucination, you're not in deep trouble.
My own personal way of looking at this, is that your body and your mind are reacting against what's happening in your life. It's your own being telling you that something has got to change.
Not in any superstitious way - but simply a sign that you know, deep inside, that you've got to change your ways SOMEHOW - and you're not doing enough or all you can.
If you change your situation, you might very well find your mind/body relaxing and eventually they will stop sending these signals to provoke fear and distress.
To put it bluntly, it's your mind's way of telling you to get the fuck out of the mess you're in.
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| Posted: Thu, 9th Jun 2011 12:43 Post subject: |
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My best way to deal with anxiety, is to do something I really enjoy doing, and thus occupying my attention so much, that leaves no room to anxiety. Usually driving around the countryside, watching movies, playing computer games, reading books..
| Lutzifer wrote: | | and yes, mine is only average |
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| Posted: Thu, 9th Jun 2011 13:00 Post subject: |
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If it is my lifestyle that is the problem, it isn't anything i can change just like that :/ I'm trying to find work, but it's not really easy, especially when you've been unemployed for as long as me.
I hope i don't get a clueless doctor now dismisses what i have to say. But i fear i need to go to different types of doctors in order to find out more precisely what's going on and how to treat it.
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| Posted: Thu, 9th Jun 2011 13:04 Post subject: |
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| kenny64 wrote: | If it is my lifestyle that is the problem, it isn't anything i can change just like that :/ I'm trying to find work, but it's not really easy, especially when you've been unemployed for as long as me.
I hope i don't get a clueless doctor now dismisses what i have to say. But i fear i need to go to different types of doctors in order to find out more precisely what's going on and how to treat it. |
No, it's not an easy situation. I used to be in much the same one myself, many years ago.
Eventually, I found some work - and slowly worked my way out of a hard place.
Might seem hopeless now, but I promise you there are ways to deal with it - and that this experience will enable you to understand many things about yourself, other people, and life in general.
Sounds ridiculous, but it's something that will come to benefit you a lot down the road. Just don't let the negatives overwhelm you - and try to take the best of this for the future.
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| Posted: Thu, 9th Jun 2011 14:43 Post subject: |
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Have been with the doctor now and she was almost completely clueless. Gonna give it a week and if no change she's gonna check into depression and anxiety and check my head for perhaps tumor or whatever they look for.
And the only negative that really fears me is not being able to sleep and perhaps 1 day waking up with some hallucination staring in my face :/
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| Posted: Sun, 12th Jun 2011 09:40 Post subject: |
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I don't have a lot of faith in doctors, though you can get lucky.
Try doing your own research instead, that's what I generally do.
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