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sausje
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| Posted: Sat, 22nd Oct 2011 22:57 Post subject: |
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This customer of yours will notice he's using an SSD? I doubt it. Seems useless to me in this case, 100 bucks wasted. That mobo is also overkill for a PC that'll do nothing more than Word and IE.
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tonizito
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| Posted: Sat, 22nd Oct 2011 22:58 Post subject: |
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Might as well save a couple of euros on the RAM too.
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sausje
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| Posted: Sat, 22nd Oct 2011 23:01 Post subject: |
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I'm clearly still in my own modus when combining pc parts.
As for not noticing the diffrence between SSD or a normal HDD, then i guess you dont have a SSD yourself -.-'
What other Mobo would you suggest then?
Why is the ram not good? 25 euro for 4GB is quite cheap tbh.
Comeon give me proper awnsers, that do help. Just saying this is not good, or this is too much, aint really helping me, now is it 
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| Posted: Sat, 22nd Oct 2011 23:05 Post subject: |
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You think a normal PC user cares about that speed increase and is willing to pay 100 euros for it?
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sausje
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| Posted: Sat, 22nd Oct 2011 23:10 Post subject: |
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garus, being paid to put it all together and provide support yes
Uhm, for normal flash/java, the sandy bridge should be sufficient enough right? (As GPU that is)
Mister_s, yes, because having a SSD isn't overrated anymore, it's really close to becomming a standard in a pc these days.
But once more, because nobody seems to get it, IT HAS TO LAST 5+ YEARS. (So in other words, within a year, SSD will be standard supplied to the new "ready 2 go" pc's, so if they get it now, they are on par by then  )
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| Posted: Sat, 22nd Oct 2011 23:37 Post subject: |
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| sausje wrote: | | Why is the ram not good? 25 euro for 4GB is quite cheap tbh. |
It will probably only cut down costs on ~10€, but why do you think he'll need hyperX memory for?
Internet browsing?
Facebook?
Flash?
Slap some valueram in it and save a couple of euros.
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I'm not convinced that the SSD will last your customer 5 years, also I seriously doubt that he/she even knows the difference between a hdd and a ssd. Yes, the ssd is faster, but does your customer even care how powerful regular pcs will be in 5 years? Just get a regular office machine for ~€300-350 be done with it. In my experience these people are totally happy with a pc like that as long as it does what they want, i. e. browsing, google earth and so on.
btw i just noticed you chose a 600w psu, that's also a tad excessive methinks
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sausje
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| Posted: Sun, 23rd Oct 2011 01:57 Post subject: |
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500 watt. not 600.
Anyway, the ram makes 1 euro diffrence, so not really worth downgrading.
And why would a SSD not last people like that 5 years?
It's more people like me, that i dont see it having for more then 2 years. (i uninstall/install atleast ~30gb per day on it)
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sausje
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The whole myth about SSD's not lasting long enough is... well.... just a myth...
It's utter bollocks to scare people.
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| Posted: Sun, 23rd Oct 2011 03:29 Post subject: |
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Phenom II X4 945 (4 x 3.100MHz)
AM3+ Motherboard
8GB DDR 1600
GeForce GTS450 (1024MB)
500W OCZ StealXStream 2 (86% efficiency)
Miditower with 3,5 and 2,5 inch
60GB SATA 600 SSD (500MB/s)
1.024GB Samsung F3 (7200 rp/m)
DVD Burner
505€ 
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why not go for an FM1 setup
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| Posted: Sun, 23rd Oct 2011 08:37 Post subject: |
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| sausje wrote: | The whole myth about SSD's not lasting long enough is... well.... just a myth...
It's utter bollocks to scare people. |
How is it bullocks? It's a fact. It is myth though that SSDs, especially the newer ones, will magically break down after a couple of years.
The only thing you can change in that system, if you want to keep the CPU which you should, is the SSD drive. Maybe tell your customer what an SSD is and what the added value should be so he can decide?
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Current and last gen SSDs will outlast mechanical HDDs.
No need to go for the Vertex3, might as well stick with Vertex 2 or Agility models. And Vertex 2 will outlast the Vertex 3 (the NAND on Vertex 3 is 25nm with a lower life expectancy).
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sausje
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| Posted: Sun, 23rd Oct 2011 12:26 Post subject: |
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Pay the 6 euro extra and get them 8GB 1600 memory from the beginning.and why shouldn't an AMD quad last 5 years?
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sausje
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| Posted: Sun, 23rd Oct 2011 12:31 Post subject: |
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Cuz i had one, and was happy to get rid of the fucking piece of crap.
I had both gen, Phenom x4 9550 and Phenom2 x4 955, they are seriously shit compared to the sandy bridge setup.
And why get them 1600 Mhz memory, if Sandy Bridge only supports max to 1333
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Where are you shopping? €170 for the i5-2400 is insanely expensive, considering you can get the i5-2500k for €15 more.
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sausje
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| Posted: Sun, 23rd Oct 2011 12:35 Post subject: |
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@Sabin
| sausje wrote: | | Tho i'm not ordering the parts at this shop alone, getting them from all sorts of shops, brings the price down to €390,- |
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sausje
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Not "bad" in the usual sense of the word, just expensive and locked. You want something that's going to last FIVE years?? Get the 2500k. At the very least, in another couple of years when it's starting to look a little long in the tooth; simply bump the multi to 40 and you've got a significant performance leap.
All for what? €20? €22? No brainer really.
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sausje
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40 is still safe with stock fan and voltage?
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sausje
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| Posted: Sun, 23rd Oct 2011 12:54 Post subject: |
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What is the max turbo speed that the 2500k gives? 3.5?
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| Posted: Sun, 23rd Oct 2011 13:13 Post subject: |
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3.7Ghz according to Intel. That should be quite fine on the stock cooler.
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| Posted: Sun, 23rd Oct 2011 13:19 Post subject: |
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If you want future proof, then why use a mobo that does not support USB3?
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I was always afraid of that myths. 
) you could just add a €15 cooler. It's certainly a lot cheaper than buying a whole new processor.
