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 Posted: Wed, 16th Nov 2005 20:25 Post subject: i hate my parents |
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they never give me any freedom, i cant go out after school hours, not in weekend, not ever (i dont go out in the weekend i fucking hate it no wonder i dont go to school, no wonder i hang out with friends during school its the only time im free
i dont get any money from them (allowance) so they can control even more
they bitch about me drinking (five beers even) when they are drunk themselves every goddamn night
i hate it so much seriously i cant handle it nomore
today was the last draw,i went to the bar untill 18.00 hours and was home 19.00 hours and the fucking bitch(my mom is the real problem) bitches about that
im crying now goddamnit fucking bitch, its the last draw now, im 18 so i can leave, fucking stupid fucking drunk stupid bitch, hopes she dies, seriously i wouldnt miss her one bit and i dont talk shit i cant backup.
it has been going on all my life, supresion and all last draw now last fucking draw
if i have a place to stay im outta the house for good
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does anyone know some really good angry music (hard is the best)
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| Posted: Wed, 16th Nov 2005 20:27 Post subject: |
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this sounds serious m8.
Maybe you could try living with a relative or with friends, and see how it goes from there
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| Posted: Wed, 16th Nov 2005 20:31 Post subject: |
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yeah well it is
im crying between sentences
my friends dont have their own homes and such, my best mate knows but he doesnt know all details, i have been closed all my life (guess why), tomorrow ill tell him , the details
im happy i can talk about it here
well it has improved since my past (had suicide thoughts and all, now i just have hate thoughts
you might think im bragging or something i dont care but ive always been really smart, socially i mean, analyzing and shit
sorry will add tomorrow, now ill just browse
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| Posted: Wed, 16th Nov 2005 20:32 Post subject: |
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| nouseforaname wrote: | get a job, move out, problem solved  |
planning to |
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| Posted: Wed, 16th Nov 2005 20:32 Post subject: |
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| nouseforaname wrote: | | get a job, move out, problem solved |
agreed but finish school it'll help in the long term |
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| Posted: Wed, 16th Nov 2005 20:36 Post subject: |
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| Lod|_Dod| wrote: | | nouseforaname wrote: | | get a job, move out, problem solved |
agreed but finish school it'll help in the long term |
school is 3 more years seriously i cant take that nomore, work for couple years then school again or something
problem is, i never had a real job, well actually not that big a problem but just getting one as 18 year old unschooled dude (middelbaar diploma wel, dont know english sorry, highschool degree or something i guess) is pretty hard |
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| Posted: Wed, 16th Nov 2005 20:41 Post subject: |
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dood I dropped outta high school I don't even got my grade ten.....Job I got now won't hire me full-time(benefits etc) without a diploma.All the jobs I've had the decent paying ones were labour/construction trade jobs but they work you like a dog.Fuck if I could do it again I would have never dropped out and tried to go to college or some shit.seriously school makes life easier down the road.
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| Posted: Wed, 16th Nov 2005 21:14 Post subject: |
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in germany parents are bound by laws to provide for their children and can be forced to pay money even after being 18 for living on his/her own. Check up on your legal system and what you can force them to give to you or if there are government-funded projects you can use. Then move out into a cheap flat, best is a flat-sharing-community, and finish your school. You can also work in the school-holidays to get money if the other money wont keep you afloat.
If you know what your legal rights and possibilities are, confront your parents with your idea, or if you dont have the strength to go through a confrontation, stay at a friends place for a week or two and speak with them when you have had enough seperation distacne...
If you need another pair of shoulders to cry on or someone to talk to about it, pm me (i m a psychologist, albeit not a clinical one)
EDIT: as for angry music. I m hooked on the new Gorefest at the moment (la muerte)
www.psygamer.net :::: 
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| Posted: Wed, 16th Nov 2005 21:15 Post subject: |
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Move in with a friend's family you know well. Talk to them about whats happened, say you'll pay rent, finish school, and work a part time job. Don't drop out. My friend nearly dropped out but my family saved him.
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| Posted: Wed, 16th Nov 2005 21:50 Post subject: |
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Everyone has problems with their parents at some point or another in their lives, fuck I still do and Im 28 
Either which way, what nouse suggested is the cure.
1. Get a Job (your 18 now and should be able to get a decent paying job - even if its workin on a dock for $12-13 an hour from an agency)
2. Save up, move out
3. Accquire some sort skill - trade, business etc etc
4. get a better job
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| Posted: Wed, 16th Nov 2005 22:08 Post subject: |
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| TheSaint wrote: |
you dont want to sue your parents or whatever, think its the best to talk it out |
usually you dont, but sometimes you have to. Using it as leverage and showing them what their duties are often helps to make a more even field of discussion... |
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This is the reason why people shouldn't have children when they're mentally unstable (and/or alcoholics).
Any way. Can't you just leave?
One of my best friends just left home when he was 16, moved in with one of his friends, his friends parents were angels, and they took care of him.
If your parents really are the dipshits you say they are, they will do just like my friends parents, meaning; Jack shit. They even burned the stuff he had left in his room, and made his old room a guest room, for their fucking "important friends".
Parents that misbehave this way fuck you in the head for life, I'd do my very best to get the hell out of Dodge.
Yes, yes I'm back.
Somewhat.
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| Posted: Wed, 16th Nov 2005 23:15 Post subject: |
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@suicidethoughts was when i was younger and it stayed with thoughts, never tried anything and never will dont worry. well still think about it but im sane enough not to do anything
as for talking to them, i have tried so many times (well again like i said my mother is the real problem) but she never listens. after 3 years of every week shit about it i wont do it anymore, she had her chances, she lost them,. my dad is really nice (except when drunk offcourse, but he doesnt do anything then, he is just a depressive drunk) but he also suffers under my mother. its just the fucking psycological warfare always
i have thought everything thru (spelling??) . pros cons on my side, pros cons on their side, im no idiot.
| Quote: | | Move in with a friend's family you know well. Talk to them about whats happened, say you'll pay rent, finish school, and work a part time job. Don't drop out. My friend nearly dropped out but my family saved him. |
thats a good idea, no really good idea, ill talk bout it with my mate
well what i have "planned" now is next time when there is shit i just wont come home for a day, i know one place i can go to sleep
| Quote: | | If your parents really are the dipshits you say they are, they will do just like my friends parents, meaning; Jack shit. They even burned the stuff he had left in his room, and made his old room a guest room, for their fucking "important friends". |
sorry to hear that but they arent that nasty, just always trying to fuck with my mind, good person bad person, nice person frendly person mean person....
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| Posted: Wed, 16th Nov 2005 23:19 Post subject: |
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| Lutzifer wrote: | in germany parents are bound by laws to provide for their children and can be forced to pay money even after being 18 for living on his/her own. Check up on your legal system and what you can force them to give to you or if there are government-funded projects you can use. Then move out into a cheap flat, best is a flat-sharing-community, and finish your school. You can also work in the school-holidays to get money if the other money wont keep you afloat.
If you know what your legal rights and possibilities are, confront your parents with your idea, or if you dont have the strength to go through a confrontation, stay at a friends place for a week or two and speak with them when you have had enough seperation distacne...
If you need another pair of shoulders to cry on or someone to talk to about it, pm me (i m a psychologist, albeit not a clinical one)
EDIT: as for angry music. I m hooked on the new Gorefest at the moment (la muerte) |
Yeah! Give him this! Oh come on Lutz, you are better than this!
Of all the things i've lost, i miss my mind the most!
"Ozzy Osbourne"
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| Posted: Wed, 16th Nov 2005 23:30 Post subject: Re: i hate my parents |
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| JeanPerrier wrote: | they never give me any freedom, i cant go out after school hours, not in weekend, not ever (i dont go out in the weekend i fucking hate it no wonder i dont go to school, no wonder i hang out with friends during school its the only time im free
i dont get any money from them (allowance) so they can control even more
they bitch about me drinking (five beers even) when they are drunk themselves every goddamn night
i hate it so much seriously i cant handle it nomore
today was the last draw,i went to the bar untill 18.00 hours and was home 19.00 hours and the fucking bitch(my mom is the real problem) bitches about that
im crying now goddamnit fucking bitch, its the last draw now, im 18 so i can leave, fucking stupid fucking drunk stupid bitch, hopes she dies, seriously i wouldnt miss her one bit and i dont talk shit i cant backup.
it has been going on all my life, supresion and all last draw now last fucking draw
if i have a place to stay im outta the house for good
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does anyone know some really good angry music (hard is the best) |
Some of the retorics i've been studying law for 5 the last years might or might not do a difference!
Q1: We all love you, but how old are you? (Building your parental defence)
Seriously JP! Your mission in life so far is to be as gentile and pretty and sweet as can be to your mother, since she gave birth to you!
I was once a teenager too, It sucked!
And you are going to do it to your kids to!
There is no nothing to say about things like this: Either you end up straight (as in not gay) or dead! Do you really think your bitchass mother deserve waiting for you to come around?
As simple as that! You owe your mother life! And i'm trying to figure out how i will have the Italians NOT to kill you!
Of all the things i've lost, i miss my mind the most!
"Ozzy Osbourne"
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guess what, you WERE a teenager, do you still live at home, dont think so, and why is that, if you owe your mother life then why dont you stay with her hmmm
so what your saying is that because my mother gave birth to me she can systematicelly break me down, you dont liver it you dont know it, go somewhere with that reply serious, i already thought about the whole teenager stuff. its not because that in alot of cases teenagers are in their puberty and feel bad and misunderstood that, one, i dont know what im doing, two , that i still havent found myself
| Quote: | | As simple as that! You owe your mother life! |
so she can do whatever she wants, good reasoning
| Quote: | | And i'm trying to figure out how i will have the Italians NOT to kill you! |
and im trying to figure out how this suddently become a big joke about the "misunderstood teenager" for you
sry bout those replys but im not in the mood, not about this
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| Posted: Thu, 17th Nov 2005 00:02 Post subject: |
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| JeanPerrier wrote: | guess what, you WERE a teenager, do you still live at home, dont think so, and why is that, if you owe your mother life then why dont you stay with her hmmm
so what your saying is that because my mother gave birth to me she can systematicelly break me down, you dont liver it you dont know it, go somewhere with that reply serious, i already thought about the whole teenager stuff. its not because that in alot of cases teenagers are in their puberty and feel bad and misunderstood that, one, i dont know what im doing, two , that i still havent found myself
| Quote: | | As simple as that! You owe your mother life! |
so she can do whatever she wants, good reasoning
| Quote: | | And i'm trying to figure out how i will have the Italians NOT to kill you! |
and im trying to figure out how this suddently become a big joke about the "misunderstood teenager" for you
sry bout those replys but im not in the mood, not about this |
Nope! Your Bla,bla,bla!
However i have no interest whatsovever talking about my does and doents!
If somebody cant take the: Bla,bla
Of all the things i've lost, i miss my mind the most!
"Ozzy Osbourne"
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| JeanPerrier wrote: | guess what, you WERE a teenager, do you still live at home, dont think so, and why is that, if you owe your mother life then why dont you stay with her hmmm
so what your saying is that because my mother gave birth to me she can systematicelly break me down, you dont liver it you dont know it, go somewhere with that reply serious, i already thought about the whole teenager stuff. its not because that in alot of cases teenagers are in their puberty and feel bad and misunderstood that, one, i dont know what im doing, two , that i still havent found myself
| Quote: | | As simple as that! You owe your mother life! |
so she can do whatever she wants, good reasoning
| Quote: | | And i'm trying to figure out how i will have the Italians NOT to kill you! |
and im trying to figure out how this suddently become a big joke about the "misunderstood teenager" for you
sry bout those replys but im not in the mood, not about this |
If you feel like running away, come here and we will take care of your sorry ass!
Of all the things i've lost, i miss my mind the most!
"Ozzy Osbourne"
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I'll give you a hide out if you think thats the point!
http://www.lagerlings.se/showObject.asp?id=682
Klick the = mera bilder black little thing in the right corner to se my old apartement!
This is the new one: Mongoloidretardedlyexpensivenewwplaceto live obviously!
Thiis new apartement is not ok by me, financially!
i will have to live like ay fucking pirate for this one, and the gf loves the new place!
http://www.lagerlings.se/showObject.asp?id=653
This is fun though!: Me trying to fin my rich as home! Being a rich ass and all! eat shit and so all! ROFL!
Of all the things i've lost, i miss my mind the most!
"Ozzy Osbourne"
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| ollax wrote: | | JeanPerrier wrote: | guess what, you WERE a teenager, do you still live at home, dont think so, and why is that, if you owe your mother life then why dont you stay with her hmmm
so what your saying is that because my mother gave birth to me she can systematicelly break me down, you dont liver it you dont know it, go somewhere with that reply serious, i already thought about the whole teenager stuff. its not because that in alot of cases teenagers are in their puberty and feel bad and misunderstood that, one, i dont know what im doing, two , that i still havent found myself
| Quote: | | As simple as that! You owe your mother life! |
so she can do whatever she wants, good reasoning
| Quote: | | And i'm trying to figure out how i will have the Italians NOT to kill you! |
and im trying to figure out how this suddently become a big joke about the "misunderstood teenager" for you
sry bout those replys but im not in the mood, not about this |
If you feel like running away, come here and we will take care of your sorry ass! |
take a fucking break man..
life is not always to make jokes..
JeanPerrier, if you wanne talk dutch, just pm me...
its focked to hear it..i know how it feels..trust me..
empty...
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| Quote: | | so what your saying is that because my mother gave birth to me she can systematicelly break me down |
thats pretty funny 
I dont think your mom is trying to "systematically" break you down man, seriously. She may give a lil to much "helpful" advice or come across in a mean way, but from the sounds of it, based on what uve described, she's only looking out for you. Thats thing...its a phase man...some guys go through it when they're younger and by 18 shit is good, some ppl go through it when their a lil older or same stay in the groove (like friends of mine, bad parents leads to self doubt, self doubt leads to recklessness, recklessness leads to drugs/theft/fighting/bad attitude etc etc).
Trust me, instead of flipping or gettin all pissed, think about some of the shit she says to you. Im not saying she's always gunna be right (or wrong), but dont dismiss all of her recomendations/advice/thoughts/opinions...
Dont get me wrong, she could eventually end up doin shit to ruin your relationship...but from the sounds of it, shes just bein a mom and the worst she's doin is pissing you off - which all moms do, part of life
As an example, I dont talk to my mother, havent in about 10 years. BUT, she had me arrested 3 times - for what doesnt matter, but the 2nd and 3rd time, I didnt do shit seriously  But up until the 3rd time, I still talked to her...
My point is things could be alot worse for you dude. And think, alot of ppl dont have mothers that are there to bitch at them and stuff..I know that sounds kinda retarded, but think about it and Im sure u'll get my point...losin ur head wont help ya...
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| SycoShaman wrote: | | Quote: | | so what your saying is that because my mother gave birth to me she can systematicelly break me down |
thats pretty funny
I dont think your mom is trying to "systematically" break you down man, seriously. She may give a lil to much "helpful" advice or come across in a mean way, but from the sounds of it, based on what uve described, she's only looking out for you. Thats thing...its a phase man...some guys go through it when they're younger and by 18 shit is good, some ppl go through it when their a lil older or same stay in the groove (like friends of mine, bad parents leads to self doubt, self doubt leads to recklessness, recklessness leads to drugs/theft/fighting/bad attitude etc etc).
Trust me, instead of flipping or gettin all pissed, think about some of the shit she says to you. Im not saying she's always gunna be right (or wrong), but dont dismiss all of her recomendations/advice/thoughts/opinions...
Dont get me wrong, she could eventually end up doin shit to ruin your relationship...but from the sounds of it, shes just bein a mom and the worst she's doin is pissing you off - which all moms do, part of life
As an example, I dont talk to my mother, havent in about 10 years. BUT, she had me arrested 3 times - for what doesnt matter, but the 2nd and 3rd time, I didnt do shit seriously But up until the 3rd time, I still talked to her...
My point is things could be alot worse for you dude. And think, alot of ppl dont have mothers that are there to bitch at them and stuff..I know that sounds kinda retarded, but think about it and Im sure u'll get my point...losin ur head wont help ya... |
You are acting like dicks! I will give you fine friendly home as a friend!
Of all the things i've lost, i miss my mind the most!
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Im acting like a dick? why? because im encouraging him not to get mad, maybe discuss shit with his mom, find a solution other than constant anger or whatever....? yep, im a dick
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| SycoShaman wrote: | | Im acting like a dick? why? because im encouraging him not to get mad, maybe discuss shit with his mom, find a solution other than constant anger or whatever....? yep, im a dick |
BLA;BLA;BLA1 I'm, heavy drinker today! so come get some! 
Of all the things i've lost, i miss my mind the most!
"Ozzy Osbourne"
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yeah discuss shit with his mum who is blind off her face drunk. that works reeeaaaallll well. I am and have been in similar positions and I know what it feels like (parents divorced, mum drank alot) and its fucking shit. best thing you can do is get out or get help.
I'm in therapy now cause of the fucked up divorce, and it's working okay. But the best advice so far has been get the fuck out/away before it gets any worse. The sooner you stop taking that shit from your mom the better. Sounds like your dad isnt a bad bloke, if you could give him confidence to stand up to your mom, all the better, but probably won't work (unless your dad already wants to).
Get a girl if you can find one, but otherwise, just get out!
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ollax, you should stay away from this thread. Seriously =)
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