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WaldoJ
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cool... but im on ati 
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| Posted: Sat, 14th Apr 2012 18:57 Post subject: |
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ixigia
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| Posted: Sat, 14th Apr 2012 19:02 Post subject: |
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Yup, it seems to be working just fine 
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| Posted: Sat, 14th Apr 2012 19:10 Post subject: |
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nVidia can write drivers.
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Sat, 14th Apr 2012 19:33 Post subject: |
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If your FPS dances, this will not eliminate tearing. Tearing occurs whenever a new frame is ordered to be rendered before the previous one finished drawing. Since it takes some delta time between first pixel render and last. So depending on your monitor's delta length, it will be more or less obvious.
So if you have some cheap TN, which is fast, you will see less tearing. On an IPS, you will see some more.
This is also the reason why the adaptive v-sync is crap.
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tonizito
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| Posted: Sat, 14th Apr 2012 20:42 Post subject: |
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Ask werelds how well it's working for him, at least with BF3 
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| Posted: Sat, 14th Apr 2012 21:59 Post subject: |
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This doesn't eliminate tearing, vsync does. It's not a stable limit and if you use it in a way that reduces input lag, you're also opening the window for skipped frames that otherwise wouldn't occur.
D3D Antilag is a far superior means of reducing lag induced by pre-rendered frames than limiting framerate.
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| Posted: Sat, 14th Apr 2012 22:13 Post subject: |
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how is this different from triple buffering?
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| Posted: Sat, 14th Apr 2012 22:31 Post subject: |
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| shole wrote: | | how is this different from triple buffering? |
Hm? Tripple buffering introduces even more lag, as now three buffers have to be rendered. It increases lag for smoothness.
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| Posted: Sun, 15th Apr 2012 05:03 Post subject: |
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Nice...just tried this in Witcher 2. I set the frame limit to 50 and it feels much better than when it used to jump around 40-70. It works well in Grimrock too, when I had vsync enabled in that game I would get sluggish movement, but it's gone with the fps limiter.
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Karmeck
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| Posted: Sun, 15th Apr 2012 08:24 Post subject: |
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i too use this now and Grimrock looks better. Thank you overlord123 forbrining this to my attention.
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Grale
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| Posted: Sun, 15th Apr 2012 09:06 Post subject: |
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If i use the limiter at 59fps at turn the vsync off in Grimrock i get tearing, where i didn't before..
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| Posted: Sun, 15th Apr 2012 09:22 Post subject: |
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| Grale wrote: | | If i use the limiter at 59fps at turn the vsync off in Grimrock i get tearing, where i didn't before.. |
I use 58 and have no tearing.
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| Posted: Sun, 15th Apr 2012 09:29 Post subject: |
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I get neither tearing nor input lag in Grimrock with vsync on. *shrug*
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| Posted: Sun, 15th Apr 2012 09:52 Post subject: |
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I always thought only bad(ly coded) games have input lag with vsync on. I certainly notice it in some games, I think Skyrim or DXHR was the last prominent one I played where it was unbearable. But not in Grimrock.
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| Posted: Sun, 15th Apr 2012 09:57 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Sun, 15th Apr 2012 12:25 Post subject: |
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no bsod's here with frame limiter. have been using int with nvinspector for 4 months at least.
tried it across 20+ games. 0 bsod.
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| Posted: Sun, 15th Apr 2012 12:34 Post subject: |
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| Overlord123 wrote: | | Grale wrote: | | If i use the limiter at 59fps at turn the vsync off in Grimrock i get tearing, where i didn't before.. |
I use 58 and have no tearing. |
Strange 58fps and still bad tearing for me. My monitor is set to 59hertz if that matters and it's a Dell UltraSharp 2209WA
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| Posted: Sun, 15th Apr 2012 12:36 Post subject: |
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Try a different FPS. For me 64FPS is the golden spot it seems.
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| Posted: Sun, 15th Apr 2012 12:44 Post subject: |
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| Drowning_witch wrote: | no bsod's here with frame limiter. have been using int with nvinspector for 4 months at least.
tried it across 20+ games. 0 bsod. |
+1
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| Posted: Sun, 15th Apr 2012 13:12 Post subject: |
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If you don't get tearing, vsync is enabled. If you do get tearing, vsync is disabled. There's no way not to get tearing vsync disabled and there's no way to get tearing vsync enabled. With vsync disabled, even in the best case scenarios the game's frame update will be some milliseconds off the monitor's refresh and a tear occurs.
If you set your fps limit under 60fps at 60hz you'll get skipped frames at uneven intervals which looks less smooth than 60fps at 60hz.
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| Posted: Sun, 15th Apr 2012 13:27 Post subject: |
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| Overlord123 wrote: | | pillermann wrote: | | I always thought only bad(ly coded) games have input lag with vsync on. I certainly notice it in some games, I think Skyrim or DXHR was the last prominent one I played where it was unbearable. But not in Grimrock. |
It seems to dependent on whether the game uses a software or a hardware cursor.
Another thing I noticed: applying this to the global profile also affects the desktop and all applications. 
I disabled vsync globally and was wondering why I now have tearing while scrolling pages and when moving windows. So, you have to apply this for every game profile you use.
Edit: Apparently it causes BSODs and I already got one in SOTS2 with it. 
Well, back to vsync again. 
http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=224236
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I tried using it on BF3 and got 2 BSOD's within a few hours playing, never having had BSOD's in that game before. Disabled it, and have played for days without issue - so I'm doubtful it's a hardware problem.
BlueScreen Viewer reported the issue as -
UNEXPECTED_KERNEL_MODE_TRAP caused by nvlddmkm.sys
So it looks like there's some merit to that claim.
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| Posted: Sun, 15th Apr 2012 13:54 Post subject: |
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| Immunity wrote: | | So it looks like there's some merit to that claim. |
weird, try limiting fps not from the nvidia driver, but with 3rd party app such as msi afterburner and see if you still get BSODs.
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