Besieger-VENGEANCE
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kahm




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PostPosted: Fri, 4th Jun 2004 10:55    Post subject: Besieger-VENGEANCE
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loque




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PostPosted: Fri, 4th Jun 2004 11:05    Post subject:
not my kinda game.. something to race tho Wink
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tuininho




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PostPosted: Fri, 4th Jun 2004 11:06    Post subject:
pure crap Laughing
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Spike_UK
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PostPosted: Fri, 4th Jun 2004 11:15    Post subject:
Right...

Think I'll pass on that.


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Glottis
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PostPosted: Fri, 4th Jun 2004 11:20    Post subject:
looks so 2 years old Rolling Eyes
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SolidWing




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PostPosted: Fri, 4th Jun 2004 11:29    Post subject:
looks nice in my opinion Surprised
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PostPosted: Fri, 4th Jun 2004 11:31    Post subject:
SolidWing wrote:
looks nice in my opinion Surprised



It´s crap...believe me/us!!!

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Trismogestos




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PostPosted: Fri, 4th Jun 2004 11:56    Post subject:
http://www.besiegergame.com


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sTo0z
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PostPosted: Fri, 4th Jun 2004 12:23    Post subject:
Yah I just posted a thread on the demo.

Pass this game. Embarassed
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highstuff




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PostPosted: Fri, 4th Jun 2004 12:26    Post subject:
utter garbage
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Oddmaker
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PostPosted: Fri, 4th Jun 2004 13:06    Post subject:
looks good Razz


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Kondor




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PostPosted: Fri, 4th Jun 2004 14:04    Post subject:
Looks good on paper, but actual title probably doesn't deliver... I might just give it a shot to see what's it all about, since there were plenty of decent games with bad demo's... One thing for sure, I won't rush to trying it out just yet... Smile
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thudo




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PostPosted: Fri, 4th Jun 2004 14:23    Post subject:
It doesn't look all the bad.. Its a Medieval 3D RTS and at one disk ain't bad. Heard about this title awhile back but as for its "quality".. we'll have to inspect.


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JoMasta




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PostPosted: Fri, 4th Jun 2004 14:45    Post subject:
thudo wrote:
It doesn't look all the bad.. Its a Medieval 3D RTS and at one disk ain't bad. Heard about this title awhile back but as for its "quality".. we'll have to inspect.


Its actually 2 CDs.

It seems like some say crap, and some really like. hmmm
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Sayko




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PostPosted: Fri, 4th Jun 2004 14:58    Post subject:
meh... another boooring rts..
i'm waiting for 'The Suffering'
hopefully, it will be released soon..


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[sYn]
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PostPosted: Fri, 4th Jun 2004 15:14    Post subject:
It looks like it could be ok for die hard RTS fans, not something I would choose to play but I can see the apeal. The only problems I can see with it from the screenshots are the crappy models for some of the creatures/other races.
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mYslead




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PostPosted: Fri, 4th Jun 2004 15:42    Post subject:
the screenshots dosent really help the game value lol
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Deziban




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PostPosted: Fri, 4th Jun 2004 15:54    Post subject:
The screenshots look dull, but I will give it a try.
Perhaps it looks better ingame.
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-=Cartoon=-
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PostPosted: Fri, 4th Jun 2004 16:03    Post subject:
anyone played the full game ?

the screenshots look horrible..

think ill pass Smile
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xxxRIPTERxxx




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PostPosted: Fri, 4th Jun 2004 16:34    Post subject:
game looks really kool.dont let the bad pics throw u off.
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AJ-




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PostPosted: Fri, 4th Jun 2004 17:11    Post subject:
there are way too many RTS games out there, the genre needs something new...
Black & White 2 might just bring it
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fisk




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PostPosted: Fri, 4th Jun 2004 18:00    Post subject:
http://img.gamershell.com/imagefolio/gallery/RTS/Besieger/anthonyf0056.jpg

Photorealistic, MY ASS.


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Somewhat.
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Clevesa




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PostPosted: Fri, 4th Jun 2004 18:52    Post subject:
it looks like software rendering, ugly.
Can someone post a review? maybe it's the next big hit, who knows...
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Oddj0b




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PostPosted: Fri, 4th Jun 2004 19:16    Post subject:
Think Ill download, but never play it.
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AJ-




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PostPosted: Fri, 4th Jun 2004 20:19    Post subject:
Anyone actually got this installed and played it ?
I get to about %95 installed then it just stalls, my HD ticking away.
Been oing like that for about 20-30 minutes now...
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JBrow
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PostPosted: Fri, 4th Jun 2004 20:21    Post subject:
AJ- wrote:
Anyone actually got this installed and played it ?
I get to about %95 installed then it just stalls, my HD ticking away.
Been oing like that for about 20-30 minutes now...


dont worry your not missing anything

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Voodoo-child
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PostPosted: Fri, 4th Jun 2004 20:37    Post subject:
its fun... for 3 secs :/
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AJ-




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PostPosted: Fri, 4th Jun 2004 20:46    Post subject:
heh, well about 15 mins later (45 mins in total) is asked for CD1 again,so now its done, just took way too long to install, strange but still.
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Slowghost




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PostPosted: Fri, 4th Jun 2004 20:49    Post subject:
hey, wasnt Vengeance just fairlight under another name? I think it was. Smile


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Immunity




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PostPosted: Sat, 5th Jun 2004 10:07    Post subject:
Well, I've played through the Tutorial Mission and First Campaign Mission, so here is kinda a mini review:

Graphic 8.5/10
The buildings have intricate details on them (Straw Roofs, Individual Bricks, Indivicual Bolts etc).
Resource gathering such as wood chopping looks pretty badarse (You see flakes of wood come off).
The landscape itself is not bad at all.
The unit graphics themselves are pretty good zoomed in.

AI: 7/10
The pathfinding in this game is absolutley HORRID. Whoever was in charge of programing it should be shot multiple times.
On the plus side however, there are a few very cool features added in.
There is a"TOGETHER" formation which ensures that your attack group doesn't outdistance itself.
Also, formations tend to stay in formation fairly well.
Another plus, is that your units will respond fairly well to being attacked while moving, and respond automatically.
Also, your Healers are smart enough to hang back and heal instead of rushing headlong into battle ala Warcraft III (this removes that annoying micromanaging aspect. Ex. Even if I right click my attack group in the midst of an enemy group, the healer will proceed forward, but not idrect in melee combat, instead hanging back to heal the troops)
The pathfinding is really what brings this category way down though. Often times a simple Move command will have your troops stumbling into one another, running around in a circle, or taking the longest path possible.

Camera: 9/10
Some people seem to find the camera annoying, though I don't understand why.
There are three options Advanced, Simple, and Follow.
Advanced allows you to manipulate direction, angle, and zoom.
Simple allows you to manipulate zoom and direction (limited)
Follow simply sticks to the current selected unit while allowing you to manipulate angle, direction and zoom.
Although it does require adjustment sometimes, the camera is very versatile and the zoom function works extremely well, allowing for nice, closeup shots.

Sound: 8/10
The voice acting is fairly good (although not first rate, its also not horrible). The one thing that annoys me is the limited unit response when issuing an attack/move order (I believe there are only 1-2 per unit, but they get annoying fast).
Playing with my sound down, so didn't really notice the music, so can't comment.

Gameplay: 7.5/10
The game seems to be a bit slow paced for me so far (Perhaps it picks up later). Also, the seige ram seems kinda pointless so far, as a group of 15 beserks knocked down the first few gates I encountered fairly quickly.
The game does focus (at least in the first campaign), on norse setting/mythology (playing as the Vikings), with refrences to Valhala etc. This helps to add a little bit of immersion.

Overall: 7/10
I realize I haven't gotten far enough into the game to make a completley accurate judgment, but so far it seems like this game just isn't going to have what it takes. Despite its positives (graphics, camera) , the troopcreation/combat seems a bit slow paced , and certain elements (like Rams), seem useless. Also, I have a feeling in the later battles (I'm not sure whether or not there is a 75 unit limit), that the pathfinding is really gonna screw it over.

I don't think this game is UTTER crap, although its no GOTY either. However, its a decent effort given the small dev. team (russian I believe, from reading names in credits).
I'm gonna continue playing however, as it may turn itself around, you never know. With a patch or two to resolve pathfinding/balance, this game might not be bad at all (if you enjoy warcraft style rts with castle seiging added in).

My advice, grab it if your bored and give it a shot. You may like it.

Sidenotes:
The developers were smart enough not to bother with protection.
The ingame cutscenes are pretty well scripted, and voice acting fairly good.
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