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 Posted: Mon, 25th Oct 2010 01:24 Post subject: People can't make a new franchise? |
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lol, milk it baby!!
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xDBS
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| Posted: Mon, 25th Oct 2010 01:26 Post subject: |
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New Franchises will come.
You have to realize gaming is in a durp durp stand still. Their trying to please both crowds, gamers, and casuals. And it's not working out to well.
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chiv
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| Posted: Mon, 25th Oct 2010 01:43 Post subject: |
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that being said, i dont have a PROBLEM with continuing a franchise, because it gives me something to invest in (the character, world, etc).. its only when those sequels are crap, that i have an issue with em... but the concept of franchises? im fine with it.
reboots, on the other hand *cough* medal of honor *cough*....
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| Posted: Mon, 25th Oct 2010 01:52 Post subject: |
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| chiv wrote: | that being said, i dont have a PROBLEM with continuing a franchise, because it gives me something to invest in (the character, world, etc).. its only when those sequels are crap, that i have an issue with em... but the concept of franchises? im fine with it.
reboots, on the other hand *cough* medal of honor *cough*.... |
lol I remember when medal of honor came out, man that shit was AMAZING online. Don't think it was the first but allied assault, god me and my cuzin played that online like it was a ritual |
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W123
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| Posted: Mon, 25th Oct 2010 01:57 Post subject: |
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Yeep. MoH:AA was badass in its day.
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Mon, 25th Oct 2010 02:10 Post subject: |
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I still remember MoH on PS1... Physics on the soldiers' helmets seemed so revolutionary back then! 
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ixigia
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| Posted: Mon, 25th Oct 2010 02:52 Post subject: |
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| W123 wrote: | | Yeep. MoH:AA was badass in its day. |
Absolutely one of my favourite FPS ever  |
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-=Cartoon=-
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| Posted: Mon, 25th Oct 2010 04:38 Post subject: |
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that seems like a bit of selective...
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| Posted: Mon, 25th Oct 2010 07:39 Post subject: |
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MoH psx was one of the first fps I played on console and really enjoyed.
PC MOH was something else with the Omaha Beach level. I fired it up a couple of years ago for nostalgia's sake but it wasn't the same. It hadn't aged well at all, and it looked quite bad frankly compared to todays standards. MoH MP used to be good in those days too.
Lara Croft springs to mind. They have tried to reinvent her so many times through the countless sequels. Sorry, but she now ranks alongside Mario and Sonic the hedgehog as an iconic gaming figure not as a sexy game avatar that will sell games. Like a gaming milf if theres such a thing.
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| Posted: Mon, 25th Oct 2010 11:39 Post subject: |
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| xyzg wrote: | | Lara Croft springs to mind. They have tried to reinvent her so many times through the countless sequels. Sorry, but she now ranks alongside Mario and Sonic the hedgehog as an iconic gaming figure not as a sexy game avatar that will sell games. Like a gaming milf if theres such a thing. |
Have you played the last 4 games (including Guardian of he Light) ? The series got much better after that awful Angel of Darkness.
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| Posted: Mon, 25th Oct 2010 11:56 Post subject: |
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It's not the ideas that are in short supply, it's the investments. If you give an investor/publisher a choice between a fresh IP (a risk, basically) and a sequel to a commercially successful game that'd both cost an equal amount to make, which one you think he'll inevitably pick?
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| Posted: Mon, 25th Oct 2010 13:23 Post subject: |
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| JanKowalski82 wrote: | | xyzg wrote: | | Lara Croft springs to mind. They have tried to reinvent her so many times through the countless sequels. Sorry, but she now ranks alongside Mario and Sonic the hedgehog as an iconic gaming figure not as a sexy game avatar that will sell games. Like a gaming milf if theres such a thing. |
Have you played the last 4 games (including Guardian of he Light) ? The series got much better after that awful Angel of Darkness. |
Actually Angel of Darkness was the only bad game in the franchise. All the others were at least good in my opinion, though I didn't played the one that just came out just a little. It doens't seem bad, a pretty nice platformer and basically it's not from the same franchise, it just uses the same universe.
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Epsilon
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| Posted: Mon, 25th Oct 2010 14:17 Post subject: |
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Yes it wasn't like this in the good old days of the nineties, where I was busy playing Ultima VII: The Black Gate and Serpent Isle or Might and Magic V, part 1+2(World of Xeen), VI, VII and VIII, Lands of Lore through III or X-Com: UFO Defence (UFO: Enemy Unknown), X-Com: Terror From the Deep, X-Com Apocalypse and X-Com: Interceptor. Or the Command & Conquer series. Wizardry 5 through 8 at 2001.
Back then we had originality and creativity in gaming.
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| Posted: Mon, 25th Oct 2010 15:08 Post subject: |
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Releasing sequels in a fast pace was very common in the oldern days. Hell, most sequels were just improved version of the original (just like now). No one was complaining ab out that while now a sequel two years after the original is considered "too damn fast" by some people.
There's also the fact that many things have been done, the bussiness is being saturated. Innovating now is very difficult. Many devs even go "back to the roots", reviving old formulae. Add to this the fear for deviating from working mechanics due to high budgets and you'll have your answer.
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| Posted: Mon, 25th Oct 2010 15:19 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Mon, 25th Oct 2010 19:23 Post subject: |
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AAA titles are expensive, cant blame a company to invest something that worked in the past.
In the past one person could make a state of the art game, now it is >100.
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