[HARDWARE] Sony: "We're working on PS4"
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consolitis
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PostPosted: Thu, 26th May 2011 19:04    Post subject: [HARDWARE] Sony: "We're working on PS4"
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-05-26-sony-is-working-on-playstation-4

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"For the home equipment the PS3 still has a product life," he said, "but this is a platform business, so for the future platform - when we'll be introducing what product I cannot discuss that - but our development work is already under way, so the costs are incurred there."


TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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PostPosted: Thu, 26th May 2011 19:13    Post subject:
Will it have amazing fullHD (1600x900) resolution? Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu, 26th May 2011 19:35    Post subject: Re: [HARDWARE] Sony: "We're working on PS4"
consolitis wrote:
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-05-26-sony-is-working-on-playstation-4

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"For the home equipment the PS3 still has a product life," he said, "but this is a platform business, so for the future platform - when we'll be introducing what product I cannot discuss that - but our development work is already under way, so the costs are incurred there."


Of course they are. Anyone who thinks that they haven't been working on their next console since the moment the PS3 rolled out the door is only fooling themselves. The same goes for MS and whatever they call the next xbox. And Nintendo, of course.
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PostPosted: Thu, 26th May 2011 19:46    Post subject: Re: [HARDWARE] Sony: "We're working on PS4"
dodger2020 wrote:
consolitis wrote:
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-05-26-sony-is-working-on-playstation-4

Quote:
"For the home equipment the PS3 still has a product life," he said, "but this is a platform business, so for the future platform - when we'll be introducing what product I cannot discuss that - but our development work is already under way, so the costs are incurred there."


Of course they are. Anyone who thinks that they haven't been working on their next console since the moment the PS3 rolled out the door is only fooling themselves. The same goes for MS and whatever they call the next xbox. And Nintendo, of course.


Err, the point is that by publicly announcing that, the official announcement can't be that far away (I bet E3 2012).


TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"

~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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PostPosted: Thu, 26th May 2011 19:55    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Thu, 26th May 2011 20:02    Post subject:
Blehh, i hate new consoles and the wait for it to be hacked if these will be hacked. I bet they will have much improved security.
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PostPosted: Thu, 26th May 2011 20:58    Post subject:
I think PS3 proved it can pretty much remain hack-proof...if they haven't had that one issue it still would be.

I don't think new console generation will get hacked any time soon, if ever. Unless some larger company actually invests proper money into doing so, it's getting out of reach of a normal hacker.

But just guessing here.
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PostPosted: Thu, 26th May 2011 21:33    Post subject:
BearishSun wrote:
I think PS3 proved it can pretty much remain hack-proof...if they haven't had that one issue it still would be.

I don't think new console generation will get hacked any time soon, if ever. Unless some larger company actually invests proper money into doing so, it's getting out of reach of a normal hacker.

But just guessing here.
each console has a life time of 5 to 10 years . ps3 was made in 2006 so ... 2012-2014 we will see a new PS4 but well the PSN debacle hit them hard so i don't know if they are serious about it ... some analytics though they new console was NGP aka PSP2

will i buy a PS4 fuck yeah , will i buy a new XBOX 3 fuck no [in my life time i had 7 or 9 xboxes 360 that RROD thats a fucking disaster and ONLY ONE PS3 FAT that had a broken laser that was repaired by SONY in a week !!! ]...

well i will buy a xbox 3 if they hack it ... Razz
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PostPosted: Thu, 26th May 2011 22:08    Post subject:
Who cares if they can hack it, it's not like most games are worth playing anyways, i've bought 3 games for my 360 since like ~1.5 years back, instead of updating it / flashing it again.. can't say i really miss the option of playing pirate games because there's so few games actually worth playing, and the few good ones (RDR, L.A Noire) are so good they're actually worth buying and supporting.
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PostPosted: Fri, 27th May 2011 00:12    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Fri, 27th May 2011 07:24    Post subject:
I've heard it will be "the first console ever to be controlled by one button only." I've also heard that "we are doubling the VRAM for the PS4 to 512MB and we will get rid of BluRay and move exclusively to online distribution of our games." By this they "manage to achieve new levels of performance and visual quality. Our new online distribution makes it possible to download and install DLC real-time and on the run." "Imagine you are running around in a town in the next GTA:DT, you want to buy a new Safe house. We are now offering the possibility to choose and buy from a catalogue in game. The house will be downloaded and built directly ingame."

This will be a huge step forward for console gaming and gaming in general.
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PostPosted: Fri, 27th May 2011 09:41    Post subject:
garus wrote:
BearishSun wrote:
I think PS3 proved it can pretty much remain hack-proof...if they haven't had that one issue it still would be.

I don't think new console generation will get hacked any time soon, if ever. Unless some larger company actually invests proper money into doing so, it's getting out of reach of a normal hacker.

But just guessing here.


So would be Xbox if it weren't for that one issue Laughing That's what hacking is about, finding issues and exploiting them Rolling Eyes


What issue? They just rewrote the firmware, removing the protection. Same is with cracking games, there are no issues, you just remove the protection. (Unless you consider being able to access the executable an issue in itself).
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PostPosted: Fri, 27th May 2011 09:50    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Fri, 27th May 2011 09:57    Post subject:
I don't know anything about JTAG so I wont go into that. Just wanted to correct you thats not all console hacking involves finding issues and exploiting them.

It's usually via a way of modchip, or in xboxs case, a firmware hack, where protection is avoided or removed (unlike hacking a game exe).

With new generations we will however have to rely on issues such as the one on PS3, and one used for JTAG, to get stuff working, which is basically just relying on luck for the devs to make an error.
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PostPosted: Fri, 27th May 2011 10:11    Post subject:
I was just referring to the DVD firmware
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PostPosted: Fri, 27th May 2011 10:57    Post subject:
I'm NOT looking forward to the new generation of consoles with their online distribution, online activation, maybe even cloud gaming. The we-control-everything-and-we-know-everything-about-the-player mentality will increase even further. Piracy will probably die and a new spyware heaven will arise. Sad
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PostPosted: Fri, 27th May 2011 11:05    Post subject:
Dear Sony, please add some good hardware this time. Alittle more memory than the ps3 and something that'll last a few years and be able to anti-aliase etc


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PostPosted: Fri, 27th May 2011 11:46    Post subject:
BearishSun wrote:
I don't know anything about JTAG so I wont go into that. Just wanted to correct you thats not all console hacking involves finding issues and exploiting them.

It's usually via a way of modchip, or in xboxs case, a firmware hack, where protection is avoided or removed (unlike hacking a game exe).

With new generations we will however have to rely on issues such as the one on PS3, and one used for JTAG, to get stuff working, which is basically just relying on luck for the devs to make an error.


True. With Hypervisor Mode/ User Mode separation, code signing and e-fuse anti-downgrade technology hacking console will become more and more difficult, and will always need to rely on some bug to exploit. The DVD Firmware hack on x360 was made possible only by a dumb design choice made by the x360 engineers, namely: the drive's firmware isn't signed. And I doubt M$ will make the same mistake again. Sony's BR drive uses signed firmware, and in fact it was never hacked llike the 360 one. As for ps3, the hack was made possible thanks to the leaked usb dongles to put the console in debug mode, I doubt without those there would be an hack today.
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PostPosted: Sun, 4th Sep 2011 18:20    Post subject:
Acer wrote:
Dear Sony, please add some good hardware this time. Alittle more memory than the ps3 and something that'll last a few years and be able to anti-aliase etc

Rumors mention it'll have a 6.3Ghz octacore, the newest iteration of AMD's RV780 generation GPUs running at 1560Mhz, and 384MB system RAM.
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PostPosted: Mon, 5th Sep 2011 00:14    Post subject:
Mister_s wrote:
Acer wrote:
Dear Sony, please add some good hardware this time. Alittle more memory than the ps3 and something that'll last a few years and be able to anti-aliase etc

Rumors mention it'll have a 6.3Ghz octacore, the newest iteration of AMD's RV780 generation GPUs running at 1560Mhz, and 384MB system RAM.

Laughing

WHY THE FUCK NOT 2gig of ram ???? splintered to 1gig for GPU and 1 gig for CPU

as of now PS3 has 512ram but in reality its only 256 ram for gpu and 256 for CPU
thats why they textures and resolutions SUX and are forced to use heavy streaming from the HDD to keep up with so they force you to install each game to HDD...creating for each game a virtual memory on you hdd to keep up with streaming...Laughing even the vita has more RAM THEN PS3 !!!

when xbox has 512ram that can be used by cpu and gpu at the same time


if that ram is true then SONY WTF !!??


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PostPosted: Mon, 5th Sep 2011 00:35    Post subject:
A. It's bullshit Laughing
B. No such thing as RV780 (1560Mhz, really?) Laughing
C. Less RAM than the PS Vita? Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon, 5th Sep 2011 05:54    Post subject:
Weedo wrote:
I'm NOT looking forward to the new generation of consoles with their online distribution, online activation, maybe even cloud gaming. The we-control-everything-and-we-know-everything-about-the-player mentality will increase even further. Piracy will probably die and a new spyware heaven will arise. Sad


+1

Don't forget all the fucking advertisements, too. Wouldn't be surprised to see the costs of games reach 80 bucks, even with digital distribution and adverts out the ass.
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PostPosted: Mon, 5th Sep 2011 11:20    Post subject:
Nice excuse perhaps to stop pirating and just buy the normal console. No shit with hacks, bans and hardware failure. Xbox is nerdy anyway so I think I'll stab bill fucking Gates in the back and embrace the Jap uber machine
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PostPosted: Mon, 5th Sep 2011 12:17    Post subject:
couleur wrote:
I've heard it will be "the first console ever to be controlled by one button only." I've also heard that "we are doubling the VRAM for the PS4 to 512MB and we will get rid of BluRay and move exclusively to online distribution of our games." By this they "manage to achieve new levels of performance and visual quality. Our new online distribution makes it possible to download and install DLC real-time and on the run." "Imagine you are running around in a town in the next GTA:DT, you want to buy a new Safe house. We are now offering the possibility to choose and buy from a catalogue in game. The house will be downloaded and built directly ingame."

This will be a huge step forward for console gaming and gaming in general.


This is when I stop buying consoles entirely or only buy them when they are hacked.

Sony proved that you wont save money buying top titles online, so paying £40 for a downloadable game.

Sony...I dont fucking think so.
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PostPosted: Tue, 6th Sep 2011 16:03    Post subject:
It's amazing how they get ther graphics the developers do these days out of the ps3 like with games like gran tourismo 5.
Seeing how there is no memory hardly in the ps3, hopefully they put some real hardware in the next gen consoles.


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