[XBOX360] Valve: Xbox Live 'such a train wreck'
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SpykeZ




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PostPosted: Fri, 10th Sep 2010 04:58    Post subject: [XBOX360] Valve: Xbox Live 'such a train wreck'



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When asked if its mistake on Xbox Live was to assume Microsoft would let Valve update its games more often, Newell said:

"We thought that there would be something that would emerge, because we figured it was a sort of untenable... Oh yeah, we understand that these are the rules now, but it's such a train wreck that something will have to change.


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PostPosted: Fri, 10th Sep 2010 06:38    Post subject:
Man fuck Gabe Newell, guy's been talking shit for the last five years!


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PostPosted: Fri, 10th Sep 2010 07:02    Post subject:
I don't want to look like I'm "trolling" but IMO,Xbox live is over priced,and limited
Online on PC is SO match better.


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PostPosted: Fri, 10th Sep 2010 08:22    Post subject:
You're half right, 50-60$/year is a bit too much, I agree (especially if you live in a country where the average wage is 200-300$ - like I do), BUT, as a ex gold user, xbox live is still the best online service to date, in terms of server, content and the overall online experience. At least as far as consoles go.


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PostPosted: Fri, 10th Sep 2010 08:58    Post subject:
tbh I hate the fact that console games are now plagued with patches, in the old days console games (especially a+) ones worked, now its patch after patch with some games, like some PC games.

Gabe is no doubt pissed off that he cant push a 2gig patch, because Microsoft limit the file size for patch's.

Of the console online gaming Xbox Live is the best system, its not faultless, but its a shite site better than PSN or the Wii one.


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PostPosted: Fri, 10th Sep 2010 10:50    Post subject:
I find it kind of funny that Gabe was slagging off the PS3 for years, now suddenly he's jumped ship back to PS3 .. and now slagging off the 360. The man's an idiot.
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PostPosted: Fri, 10th Sep 2010 11:27    Post subject:
I think it's obvious it's for better PS3 marketing...


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PostPosted: Fri, 10th Sep 2010 11:28    Post subject:
I respect his work and love his software, but the man is still an idiot Very Happy Still, he could do something rather amazing here, something Microsoft has always steadfastly refused to do; and that's finally take advantage of the hardware at hand. The PS3 has *native* support for keyboards and mice, it's left up to the developer to integrate that into their games ... maybe Valve will start doing that? The leaked port of HL on the Dreamcast had perfect support for keyb/mice, as did a number of other games, so it's not like the technologies aren't compatible.


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PostPosted: Fri, 10th Sep 2010 11:30    Post subject:
I'm fan of Valve as well,btw Wink


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PostPosted: Fri, 10th Sep 2010 13:14    Post subject:
i was also a fan until they stopped making half life games. Yes, i believe they have a full stop at half-life until i see evidence proving the crontrary.
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PostPosted: Fri, 10th Sep 2010 13:27    Post subject:
Well, as an X360, PS3 and gaming PC owner, I must say that Live is my preferred online gaming platform. Even though it's slightly overpriced.


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PostPosted: Fri, 10th Sep 2010 13:39    Post subject:
Not to support Live or the large amount of idiot users it has, but this is the same Gabe which said the PS3 is a total disaster, and then went 180°. I guess Sony is paying now, so he'll say anything to please anyone throwing cash at his fat ass. Pretty much like another petty sellout, John Carmack.
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PostPosted: Fri, 10th Sep 2010 13:42    Post subject:
iNatan wrote:
Not to support Live or the large amount of idiot users it has, but this is the same Gabe which said the PS3 is a total disaster, and then went 180°. I guess Sony is paying now, so he'll say anything to please anyone throwing cash at his fat ass. Pretty much like another petty sellout, John Carmack.


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PostPosted: Sat, 11th Sep 2010 17:20    Post subject:
You know what else is "such a train wreck"? Half life 3/episode 3 game development.

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PostPosted: Sat, 11th Sep 2010 19:41    Post subject:
Saner wrote:
tbh I hate the fact that console games are now plagued with patches, in the old days console games (especially a+) ones worked, now its patch after patch with some games, like some PC games.
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Thats not a particularly valid argument. You don't think games were buggy before online patching existed? Perhaps because online patching didn't exist. Have developers gotten "lazy" knowing they can patch a game in the future (for those who actually pay to get online) - perhaps.


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PostPosted: Sun, 12th Sep 2010 10:27    Post subject:
The only thing I like about Xboxlive is some of the games you can get that you cant on PSN, apart from that in my oppinion is overpriced and overatted compaired to PSN.
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PostPosted: Sun, 12th Sep 2010 10:37    Post subject:
WHEATTHlNS wrote:
Saner wrote:
tbh I hate the fact that console games are now plagued with patches, in the old days console games (especially a+) ones worked, now its patch after patch with some games, like some PC games.
.


Thats not a particularly valid argument. You don't think games were buggy before online patching existed? Perhaps because online patching didn't exist. Have developers gotten "lazy" knowing they can patch a game in the future (for those who actually pay to get online) - perhaps.



I accept that games have always had bugs, and that given the larger games we get (some of the time) today, bugs are inevitable, however with this current generation of games on consoles (especially) I personally have seen quite a few games that have chronic gamebreaking bugs, and not little minor things, such was the case (again my opinion) with previous console generations.

Maybe I am playing more games (although I think I am playing less) but with the option to patch games, a lot (IMO) seem to be rushed out with the attitude of "Hey well we can fix that later"


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