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 Posted: Fri, 10th Dec 2004 21:25 Post subject: The video of the future.......super cards.... |
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The battle for video supremasy is always raging .....ATI realeases somthing and nvidia is quickly behind....
The 64 bit systems evolving things like dule linkable video card are becoming available with new pci Express slots.....
..... http://tech-report.com/reviews/2004q4/sli/index.x?pg=1
have a look at this....the new sli tecnoligy will make a revolutionaty breaktrough in gaming....soon ati will intriduce duel brigable 512k cards with 700- 900 mhz vpu's...this is going to get crazzzzy...>!!!!
i wonder wath the price tag is going to be, and haw much for on of these new nforce 4 64 class pci express ddr2 and duel channel caple boards will cost....
upgading is a bitch.....
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| Posted: Fri, 10th Dec 2004 22:40 Post subject: |
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Well this SLI was first introduced by 3Dfx and currecntly only nvidia cards of the 6800gt/ultra chip spec allow sli.
No ati cards are capable of this
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Saner
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| Posted: Fri, 10th Dec 2004 22:41 Post subject: |
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My voodoo 2 SLI rocked 
ahhh those where the days
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I saw things like that in here and in other "woman problems" topics so...... Am I the only one that thinks some authorities needs to be alerted about Saner and him possibly being a rapist and/or kidnapper ? |
Saner is not being serious. Unless its the subject of Santa!
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[sYn]
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| Posted: Sun, 12th Dec 2004 09:15 Post subject: |
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Another sli setup: http://www20.tomshardware.com/motherboard/20041130/index.html
But still, i don't see a single reason why sli technology should get widly accepted. 3dfx failed with it and nvidia will so too. They only brought back sli to win benchmarks, same like ati did with the x700 xt wich was only build as test samples to compete with the 6600gt. Sli is too expensive, the life cycle of a graphics chips these days is too short to buy two cards at once, and heat is also a problem, like the first article has mentioned.
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[sYn]
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| Posted: Sun, 12th Dec 2004 16:50 Post subject: |
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| whoKnows wrote: | Another sli setup: http://www20.tomshardware.com/motherboard/20041130/index.html
But still, i don't see a single reason why sli technology should get widly accepted. 3dfx failed with it and nvidia will so too. They only brought back sli to win benchmarks, same like ati did with the x700 xt wich was only build as test samples to compete with the 6600gt. Sli is too expensive, the life cycle of a graphics chips these days is too short to buy two cards at once, and heat is also a problem, like the first article has mentioned. |
*agrees*
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Cheez-It
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| Posted: Sun, 12th Dec 2004 17:13 Post subject: |
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SLI is incredibly gay.
1.) WAY too expensive.
2.) Only advance is in speed, NOTHING in image quality.
3.) Nvidias SLI tech has a bunch of problems still, they can be fixed, but your average user would be stuck in the dark.
WHERE ARE THE REAL NEW CARDS. Not this gimmicky stupid shit that's going to last what, a generation or two of videocards?
And PS, nvidia != 3dfx, they actually competed at one time a very long time ago, then nvidia took the lead, 3dfx had problems, and nvidia brought them.
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| Posted: Sun, 12th Dec 2004 17:34 Post subject: |
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| Cheez-It wrote: | SLI is incredibly gay.
1.) WAY too expensive.
2.) Only advance is in speed, NOTHING in image quality.
3.) Nvidias SLI tech has a bunch of problems still, they can be fixed, but your average user would be stuck in the dark.
WHERE ARE THE REAL NEW CARDS. Not this gimmicky stupid shit that's going to last what, a generation or two of videocards?
And PS, nvidia != 3dfx, they actually competed at one time a very long time ago, then nvidia took the lead, 3dfx had problems, and nvidia brought them. |
SLI's have their advantages.
For example, an SLI solution can increase performance by 50%, which is about what, 2 generations up and one class of cards down? This will play like the Radeon 10000 mid-class. Meaning that you can get one for $450 now, get the mobo etc. and have a stable, relatively future-proof platform for about $1200. Then add as much memory/hard drive/CPU as you can afford, and just bump those up every so often. Then in about a year, when you can get one of these for less than $100, get that and $300 in upgrades (better CPU and a bit of memory), and you get another year of playtime relatively on-the-cheap. |
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| Posted: Sun, 12th Dec 2004 18:37 Post subject: |
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SLI's have their advantages.
For example, an SLI solution can increase performance by 50%, which is about what, 2 generations up and one class of cards down? This will play like the Radeon 10000 mid-class. Meaning that you can get one for $450 now, get the mobo etc. and have a stable, relatively future-proof platform for about $1200. Then add as much memory/hard drive/CPU as you can afford, and just bump those up every so often. Then in about a year, when you can get one of these for less than $100, get that and $300 in upgrades (better CPU and a bit of memory), and you get another year of playtime relatively on-the-cheap.[/quote]
ATI's solution is much more interesting, I believe they are going to make it so that you can cross different models, as opposed to nvidia's, which have to be the same exact model.
Another thing, while raw power is nice, when games start taking advantage of new rendering techiniques and use new technologies, this techinique will immediately be obsolete, as these are still old cards, even if they are powerful. This is just a niche of the market, you need a brand new (expensive might I add) mobo, one of the TOP processors or the advantage will exponentially decrease as this setup needs a powerful CPU (cpu = bottleneck here), ram, and hard drive, then you need a 450$ vid card, and then 100$ more (let's be realistic, it will be around 300 or more, for these, they don't depreciate in value like that.......) to me that's just way to expensive for something that's going to be out of date as soon as a new generation of video cards comes out. completely pointless considering one of the cards gives excellent performance..
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| Posted: Sun, 12th Dec 2004 19:20 Post subject: |
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I do agree that new rendering techniques will render these cards obsolete, but I must say that - even with my old ATI Rad9600Pro, I can enjoy most of the games of today at decent resolutions, with acceptable framerates.
As for depreciation, I'll take it literally. Last year's Dream card (as featured in PC Gamer 10-13 Holiday 2003) was the Radeon 9800 Pro 128 mb All-in-Wonder card. The price in PCG (usually accurate) was listed as $450. Now it's $235 shipped here...
Therefore we can safely conclude that top-range cards depreciate ~50% per year. It will therefore run at about $200-250 in 1 year, or $100 in 2. 1.5 year is the sweet spot here at $125-150.
In any case, kudos to nVidia for at least trying to resurrect SLI
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| Posted: Wed, 15th Dec 2004 11:18 Post subject: |
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I just orderd asus sli mb!
http://www.asus.com/products/mb/socket939/a8nsli-d/overview.htm
Gonna run it with dual ultras! just wish i had know about it comming so soon, then i would have waited before i baught this rig, this is going to be expensive! But hey! its christmas and all other gifts but my own are cancelled:-)
Of all the things i've lost, i miss my mind the most!
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| Posted: Wed, 15th Dec 2004 17:10 Post subject: |
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| Accelleron wrote: | I do agree that new rendering techniques will render these cards obsolete, but I must say that - even with my old ATI Rad9600Pro, I can enjoy most of the games of today at decent resolutions, with acceptable framerates.
As for depreciation, I'll take it literally. Last year's Dream card (as featured in PC Gamer 10-13 Holiday 2003) was the Radeon 9800 Pro 128 mb All-in-Wonder card. The price in PCG (usually accurate) was listed as $450. Now it's $235 shipped here...
Therefore we can safely conclude that top-range cards depreciate ~50% per year. It will therefore run at about $200-250 in 1 year, or $100 in 2. 1.5 year is the sweet spot here at $125-150.
In any case, kudos to nVidia for at least trying to resurrect SLI |
I really don't think you can say that, they stop at a certain point, or else I would recommend my friend get a 3 year old ATI radeon 9700, but they're still expensive... they depreciate quickly but then slow....
I'm waiting for the next gen or maybe 1 more after that to laugh at all the asshats who fell for this bullshit again, it was already a flop after a short lived success with 3dfx... why don't you spend your money on something USEFUL...
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| Posted: Wed, 15th Dec 2004 17:52 Post subject: |
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stop complaing i am stuck with geforce 4600
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Thats insane... yea the graphics look shit, but its still funny to see a very old card running a new game 
