MKV, Haali, and fucking English subtitles
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Horrordee
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PostPosted: Sun, 4th Jul 2010 20:16    Post subject: MKV, Haali, and fucking English subtitles
So annoying. I use Windows Media Centre on Vista (never bothered to install W7 lolz) and whenever a MKV file loads that has subtitles built into it, then they appear in WMC. I have to go down to the Haali icon, right click and select no subtitles.

In my Haali settings, I've set eng,off;*,eng which I beleive should disable any english subtitles, and translate any non-english scenes to english subs.

Is it that the majority of groups don't tag their subs as "english" within the MKVs? or am I doing something wrong? It's a pain in the ass!


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PostPosted: Sun, 4th Jul 2010 20:21    Post subject:
When you mux a mkv file you can set subtitles to be on by default. If you use mkvmergeGUI, the first subtitle stream you add is set to default automatically, you need to manually set it to be off by default.
Since scene groups try to do things as fast as possible (x264 settings like subme=6, mbtree=off, b-frames=3) they just can't be bothered with setting the subs to off by default.
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PostPosted: Sun, 4th Jul 2010 20:55    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Mon, 5th Jul 2010 00:45    Post subject:
What do you use for decoding? ffdshow? Just disable subtitles there, and enable manually on movies you want to see them. Unfortunately, the subtitles selection filters in Haali are not reliable at all. That setting in MKV is actually useful for forcing forced subtitles (like, for example, subtitles for non-English parts). But as me7 said, they are misused often...
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PostPosted: Mon, 5th Jul 2010 04:05    Post subject:
VLC use it


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LeoNatan
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PostPosted: Mon, 5th Jul 2010 04:38    Post subject:
Hfric wrote:
VLC use it

VLC = outdated, single-threaded, buggy decoder from 2008 Wink
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PostPosted: Mon, 5th Jul 2010 09:34    Post subject:
iNatan wrote:
Hfric wrote:
VLC use it

VLC = outdated, single-threaded, buggy decoder from 2008 Wink

A new version was just released, oh Leo, master of noobs, destroyer of worlds.


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It even supports gpu decoding (tested and works fine for me, but I don't need it)
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LeoNatan
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PostPosted: Mon, 5th Jul 2010 09:51    Post subject:
Nope, it's still using the same shitty singlethreaded libavcodec build. Proof:

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One of the most demanding scenes encoded, the Planet Earth birds scene, easily going 80%+ on my dual core with ffmpeg-mt from ffdshow, "peaking" at 50% in this shit, while video is stuttering. Laughing VLC is just pathetic.

Edit
Ah wait, I found it. So they have the DXVA portion of libavcodec, but still haven't integrated the ffmpeg-mt decoder? Scratch Head
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PostPosted: Mon, 5th Jul 2010 12:21    Post subject:
I tested the last one here :
http://forums.plexapp.com/index.php?/topic/3029-1080p-test-mkv-examples-from-birds-scene-earth-movie/?s=e7b54e66d152c83073d4f1837b5eb76f

and it was jerky ! cpu usage about 50% on each core. With gpu acceleration it wasn't so jerky but still not really smooth. CPU usage was really low of course.

Media Player Classic plays it fine, again usage was about 50% on each core.
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LeoNatan
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PostPosted: Mon, 5th Jul 2010 14:02    Post subject:
Can you post a screenshot of a multithreaded VLC? Because I read a forum post from 2010 that the developers can't make VLC work with ffmpeg-mt (and I tested the latest nightly build).
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PostPosted: Mon, 5th Jul 2010 14:29    Post subject:
iNatan wrote:
Can you post a screenshot of a multithreaded VLC? Because I read a forum post from 2010 that the developers can't make VLC work with ffmpeg-mt (and I tested the latest nightly build).

I'm using latest stable and I monitor the CPU cores in my Logitech G15 screen Very Happy

I'll take a screen , cores aren't fully utilized, maybe it's one thread hopping around between them, lol.
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PostPosted: Mon, 5th Jul 2010 14:33    Post subject:
Yeah, if it tops at 50% on a dual core at that scene, then it is one thread. Not sure, why it is registered like that in the task manager.
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