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azzman




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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Jun 2010 13:26    Post subject: [NDS] 3DS
Stole the show at E3, but no thread? I think it looks awesome... MS and Sony should be afraid, very afraid

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Hfric




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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Jun 2010 14:32    Post subject: Re: [NDS] 3DS
azzman wrote:
Stole the show at E3, but no thread? I think it looks awesome... MS and Sony should be afraid, very afraid


afraid of what.... a tiny mini screen
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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Jun 2010 17:56    Post subject:
meh, I dunno about the 3ds, I need to hold it in my hands and actually see the 3d myself before making any judgment.


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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Jun 2010 17:59    Post subject:
tw1st wrote:
meh, I dunno about the 3ds, I need to hold it in my hands and actually see the 3d myself before making any judgment.

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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Jun 2010 18:09    Post subject:
Isn't its hardware too weak to make an impact ? Nintendo can't rely on rpgs and touchscreen gimmick forever.

I'm more interested in psp2, if they can bundle ps2 games for it (emulated like the ps1 on psp)
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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Jun 2010 18:17    Post subject:
Aren't there claims that the hardware is on par with x360 / ps3 in these? Cool Face


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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Jun 2010 18:24    Post subject:
Hah! I don't know about THAT, but from what Nintendo are saying; it IS a great deal more powerful than the original NDS .. and "supposedly" the PSP.
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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Jun 2010 18:29    Post subject:
wouldn't be too difficult to overtake the psp in terms of power, considering its hardware is quite old by now. the other qustion is how future DS games will look...isn't the power increase just for coping with the higher resolution+3d?


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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Jun 2010 18:31    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
it IS a great deal more powerful than the original NDS .. and "supposedly" the PSP.


Looking at the screenshots of the 3DS version of Snakeater I say that's more than true
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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Jun 2010 21:18    Post subject:
Hmm, looks pretty fucking good+smooth.


I hope fucking Sony announces psp2 or I will rape them.
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PostPosted: Sat, 19th Jun 2010 02:09    Post subject:
w00t w00t another handheld with 15 great games and a pile of shit containing 950 crap games
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PostPosted: Sat, 19th Jun 2010 03:28    Post subject:
you know what
this made me remember Virtual boy

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PostPosted: Sat, 19th Jun 2010 03:33    Post subject:
Holy shit.

http://www.thekoalition.com/super-street-fighter-iv-fights-its-way-on-to-the-3ds/


Ok so it looks ugly as sin, far far uglier than the iPhone version, but hey! Still impressive!
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PostPosted: Sat, 19th Jun 2010 03:54    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
Holy shit.

http://www.thekoalition.com/super-street-fighter-iv-fights-its-way-on-to-the-3ds/


Ok so it looks ugly as sin, far far uglier than the iPhone version, but hey! Still impressive!
so now they little ds can output psp graphics Laughing


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PostPosted: Sat, 19th Jun 2010 04:01    Post subject:
I really hope, for Nintendo's sake, that those shots are from VERY VERY early into production .. because seriously, that's just plain FUGLY. Even the iPhone looks ten times better than that.

=iPhone=




=Nintendo 3DS=

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PostPosted: Sat, 19th Jun 2010 04:07    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
I really hope, for Nintendo's sake, that those shots are from VERY VERY early into production .. because seriously, that's just plain FUGLY. Even the iPhone looks ten times better than that.

=iPhone=




=Nintendo 3DS=


correction
this is the Iphone


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PostPosted: Sat, 19th Jun 2010 04:10    Post subject:
Sorry, I'm tired and just snagged the first screenie I could find (which incidentally came from IGN.. bleh) Either way, the iPhone version STILL looks better. Albeit with those horrible soft-keys onscreen.
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PostPosted: Sat, 19th Jun 2010 10:05    Post subject:
Lol. Most likely SF4 will look better on 3ds.

To make a fair comparisment one has to see the game on the small screen, in motion and in 3d.
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PostPosted: Sat, 19th Jun 2010 16:44    Post subject: Re: [NDS] 3DS
Hfric wrote:
azzman wrote:
Stole the show at E3, but no thread? I think it looks awesome... MS and Sony should be afraid, very afraid


afraid of what.... a tiny mini screen
fhunny


The thing will sell like a mofo champ. While those other clowns waste time on shitty wii clones in a futile attempt to attract cash, Nintendo will already be onto the next scam to take coin from the sheeple. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Sun, 20th Jun 2010 07:08    Post subject:
everyone who has seen the 3ds in action is stunned and amazed
only problem is that it has a very fixed view point so you can only see it at a certain angle QQ
but other than that it's actually real and actually awesome (i can't wait. Might be the only DS i'll buy unless it will come out with a 250$ price range or a suspected 300 Sad )

DS is from Nintendo. Therefore it's worth the price. Especially since you can easily play free games on it (hopefully on the 3DS) Very Happy The new games for the DS/3DS from first party will be stunning. Nintendo doesn't half ass things anymore.

That street fighter game most likely will look like SSTF3 or so with cell shaded bs but will play great. One thing you can give Nintendo is that their products = quality.

I can't wait for the onslaught of 3D games for the 3DS.


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PostPosted: Sun, 20th Jun 2010 15:33    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
Holy shit.

http://www.thekoalition.com/super-street-fighter-iv-fights-its-way-on-to-the-3ds/


Ok so it looks ugly as sin, far far uglier than the iPhone version, but hey! Still impressive!



No way is it going to look that crappy. Its clearly in early stages of dev.

Check these out, clearly a much cleaner look then that street fighter one:



















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PostPosted: Sun, 20th Jun 2010 15:48    Post subject:
Who-CareZ wrote:

No way this is real shot of the 3DS...
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PostPosted: Sun, 20th Jun 2010 15:54    Post subject:
iNatan wrote:
Who-CareZ wrote:

No way this is real shot of the 3DS...


Yeah, that one is most likely a video CGI cut scene. Because look at this one also.



If that's actual gameplay then wow, but I doubt it.

The other shots of Zelda, Starfox, Metal gear, Mario Kart are actual gameplay.
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PostPosted: Sun, 20th Jun 2010 16:02    Post subject:
No, these effects require shaders, and I the 3DS hardware doesn't not support this. What more, even if it did, you still wouldn't run this on the 3DS.
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PostPosted: Sun, 20th Jun 2010 19:55    Post subject:
you never know ds has some super awesome games with awesome gfx Surprised


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PostPosted: Sun, 20th Jun 2010 21:57    Post subject:
The only thing that makes this interresting to me is the Zelda remake.
If they are able to recreate the charm from the original it would be just awesome, and on that argument alone i think they will sell alot of them.
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PostPosted: Sun, 20th Jun 2010 22:40    Post subject:
WaldoJ wrote:
you never know ds has some super awesome games with awesome gfx Surprised

Have you lost your mind ? No, it doesn't, it's super-weak.

I'm ready to be corrected, if you can point me to some impressive game.
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PostPosted: Mon, 21st Jun 2010 20:35    Post subject:
iNatan wrote:
No, these effects require shaders, and I the 3DS hardware doesn't not support this. What more, even if it did, you still wouldn't run this on the 3DS.


http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/multimedia/display/20100621111638_Nintendo_Adopts_Graphics_Processor_from_DMP_for_the_3DS_Console.html

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Exact specifications or expected performance of the DMP Pica 200 graphics processor are unknown, but the developer indicated that the chip includes a proprietary “graphics extension” named Maestro. Besides, DMP said that the GPU features support of complex shaders.

Founded in 2002, DMP, a graphics IP core supplier in Japan, has adopted a business strategy of focusing on the digital consumer market, according to Jon Peddie, the head of Jon Peddie Research market tracking company.

“DMP first told me about the Pica architecture in early 2005 which was their first IP core based on Ultray architecture. The president and CEO of DMP, Tatsuo Yamamoto, told me then the Ultray allows real-time photo realistic rendering with physically correct lighting and shadowing such as soft shadow casting and position dependent environmental mapping. Ultray is unique in that it uses hardware parametric engines for certain graphics features rather than shaders. With this approach, clouds, smoke, gas and other fuzzy objects can be shaded and rendered at an interactive rate,” explained Mr. Peddie.


seems weird. They say they have complex shaders, but rather not use them? *scratches head*

EDIT: also, they only have to render for a pretty small resolution so i guess, it could be awesome. But i have to see it for myself first. Am pretty hyped since the e3 though Very Happy
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PostPosted: Mon, 21st Jun 2010 20:44    Post subject:
VGAdeadcafe wrote:
WaldoJ wrote:
you never know ds has some super awesome games with awesome gfx Surprised

Have you lost your mind ? No, it doesn't, it's super-weak.

I'm ready to be corrected, if you can point me to some impressive game.


Sprites can be just as impressive as polygons .... maybe not from a purely technical aspect, but definitely from an aesthetic one Wink

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PostPosted: Mon, 21st Jun 2010 20:54    Post subject:
I would KILL for 2d castlevania in 3d!
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