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PostPosted: Fri, 28th May 2010 20:32    Post subject: Please NFOhump, you're my only hope! Urgent..
Let me break it down:

My mom owns a toy store. Tomorrow they're having this little special "event" to draw more customers, and it's always a success.

They use a PC at the register which the credit card terminal is hooked up to. When you pay with your bank/credit card, it's registered by the PC and then validated (I guess?) through internet access.

Now, there's something seriously wrong with the internet access, and shit is a bit stressful, cause 8/10 times people pay with their card.

There's another PC in the stock/storeroom (running XP SP3, I guess the cashier PC is running the same), which is used to register new incoming products and stock. This and the register PC is hooked up to router, which in turn is getting internet access through a DSL-modem, so everything is pretty basic.

But the PC's are getting Limited or no connectivity on the internet connection. Even if I connect them directly to the modem.

But I took one of my laptops, and it has no problem with accessing the net, with the same modem/cable Confused As soon as I plug the modem in the storeroom PC, it says Limited or no connectivity, and it takes a few minutes to renew the IP (which it fails to do).

I've released/renewed using ipconfig, flushed/reregistered the DNS, disabled the firewall, removed the old POS Norman Antivirus, I've ran the Winsock XP-fix, installed/scanned with Malwarebytes' Antimalware andAvira - nothing seems to fucking help Sad

But still, it works flawlessly within 10 seconds when i plug the modem in the laptop..

Please, help me!


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PostPosted: Fri, 28th May 2010 20:46    Post subject:
The official IT Crowed question...

Did you try turning it off and on again?

Bad port on the computer? Try using a PCI networking card. Had that happen once, was such a headache.


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PostPosted: Fri, 28th May 2010 20:55    Post subject:
If you've released and renewed with ipconfig, I am out of ideas... Confused How is the connection configured? Automatic DHCP receiving or manual IP config?
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PostPosted: Fri, 28th May 2010 20:59    Post subject:
Better be DHCP, otherwise I'd check those settings first Smile
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PostPosted: Fri, 28th May 2010 21:18    Post subject:
Might be NIC drivers. At my work we got new Core i3 comps. When we installed XPSP3 and the latest NIC drivers from Intel it caused the same issue as you are having. Downgrading the drivers fixed it. Worth a try.
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PostPosted: Fri, 28th May 2010 21:22    Post subject:
You give to little info here, how is everything connected?
wired/wireless?
NIC integrated on mainboard or USB or PCI?
If 2 PC's stopped working properly it might also be software (or virus) related, did those pc's had an update earlier?


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PostPosted: Fri, 28th May 2010 21:24    Post subject:
SpykeZ wrote:
The official IT Crowed question...

Did you try turning it off and on again?

Bad port on the computer? Try using a PCI networking card. Had that happen once, was such a headache.


I don't think it's that either, since the other PC gets the same error.

iNatan wrote:
If you've released and renewed with ipconfig, I am out of ideas... Confused How is the connection configured? Automatic DHCP receiving or manual IP config?


Automatic DHCP, yeah :/

edweird13 wrote:
Might be NIC drivers. At my work we got new Core i3 comps. When we installed XPSP3 and the latest NIC drivers from Intel it caused the same issue as you are having. Downgrading the drivers fixed it. Worth a try.


But it worked fine yesterday, and the months prior to this.. No-one has updated the drivers...



Oh and btw, I remember now, when using ipconfig, it gives me DHCP timeout as reason to why the IP can't be renewed..


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PostPosted: Fri, 28th May 2010 21:24    Post subject:
iconized wrote:
You give to little info here, how is everything connected?
wired/wireless?
NIC integrated on mainboard or USB or PCI?
If 2 PC's stopped working properly it might also be software (or virus) related, did those pc's had an update earlier?


Wired everything.

Integrated NIC.

I don't think they've been updated, since they are only used for their respective purpouses...


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PostPosted: Fri, 28th May 2010 21:32    Post subject:
Perhaps the router is locked only to specific MAC range or address?
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PostPosted: Fri, 28th May 2010 21:41    Post subject:
But I've excluded the router for now, using only the modem, directly hooked up to the NIC. Still no dice..

I don't think it's anything hardware related, since it works perfectly with the laptop.. IP/DHCP is the culprit here i think, i just can't fucking figure out what it is :/


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PostPosted: Fri, 28th May 2010 21:48    Post subject:
When you run "ipconfig /all" what is the result you get when connected?
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PostPosted: Fri, 28th May 2010 22:00    Post subject:
Do those 2 computers install updates manually?
Since they are both Internet connected they can do that.
I remember MS' 4th servicepack for Win NT, many Compaq servers quit working after applying Laughing
I dunno what OS those PCs run but look in the device manager.
But I really start to think there is a software problem now since the chance that both PCs have the same hardware problem is very very low (still you never know).
Anyway the only road to a solution is by eliminating causes.
Hmm did you check the router?
Maybe a hacker blocked certain MAC-addresses?
Edit: Okay reread the original post, you will have to check the configuration of the DSL modem as well

Edit2: Which device is the DHCP host? The router or the DSL modem?


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PostPosted: Fri, 28th May 2010 22:03    Post subject:
Can you give the pc an IP manually? Example 192.168.7.2?

If you wonder how, Ip: 192.168.7.2
one below: 255.255.255.0
one below: 192.168.7.3

Once I had the same issue with a wireless router and I manually gave the pc ip and it worked.

If your modems ip is 10.0.0.1 make the ip 10.0.0.2. Try it.

Sounds like a virus issue to me.
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PostPosted: Fri, 28th May 2010 22:10    Post subject:
iNatan wrote:
When you run "ipconfig /all" what is the result you get when connected?

Okay, the OS is in swedish, so I'll try to translate it Razz

Ill only include whats necessary:

IP config for Windows:
Primary DNS-suffix: (empty)
Node type: Unknown
IP-routing: No
WINS-proxy: No

Ethernet NIC Local area connection:
Connection specific DNS-suffix: (empty)
Name/description: VIA Rhine II Fast Ethernet Adapter
DHCP active: Yes
Autoconfig active: Yes
Autoconfigured IP: 169.254.95.136
Netmask: 255.255.0.0
Standard gateway: (empty)


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PostPosted: Fri, 28th May 2010 22:15    Post subject:
Hmm try replacing the network cable between the router and the DSL modem.


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PostPosted: Fri, 28th May 2010 22:17    Post subject:
Why would that be the problem, since im using he exact modem and cable as im posting this Confused

Forget the router, its not part of the setup right now. Its PC - modem only. And the modem doesn't have any settings to change, its just a single port modem. Just plug it in, it acquires an IP and enables the PC to use the internet..

Edit: Here's the modem
http://www.billion.com/product/adsl/bipac5200sm-firewall-adsl2-usb-router.html

Dunno why it has USB ROUTER in the URL though, since it has no USB nor is it a router of any kind.

Its also the second one, since it went down, they bought a new modem exactly the same as the old one. But there's nothing wrong with the old one, nor the new one.


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PostPosted: Fri, 28th May 2010 22:23    Post subject:
That is part of the problem I can't know what kind of tests you have run so far and with what materials.
Go into the config of the modem to see if it blocks certain MAC addresses.


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PostPosted: Fri, 28th May 2010 22:37    Post subject:
_SiN_ wrote:
Edit: Here's the modem
http://www.billion.com/product/adsl/bipac5200sm-firewall-adsl2-usb-router.html

Dunno why it has USB ROUTER in the URL though, since it has no USB nor is it a router of any kind.

Its also the second one, since it went down, they bought a new modem exactly the same as the old one. But there's nothing wrong with the old one, nor the new one.

Actually this modem is a router since it transfers local network traffic to the internet, the device you call the router is also a router but mainly functions as an hub or a switch and routes the traffic to another device.

Anyway, since it happened twice it seems that some kind of hacker does this. Can you perhaps find a way to reset the modem to factory defaults and then reprogram it to function again with the ISP?


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PostPosted: Fri, 28th May 2010 22:40    Post subject:
did you try to check the modem menu with http://192.168.100.1/ and check the logs for errors

you could also check the MAC (sticker on your modem) of this modem and then write in manually
Device Manager>Networking Adapters>*your adapter*>Properties> Advanced Tab >Network Address>Value :*here write your mac*

did you try to use the DNS value of your laptop that worked fine with this modem

hmm if your laptop works fine then try doing this: plug your laptop , then do "ipconfig /all" on it , write the values , then connect the modem to the PC and copy paste them


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PostPosted: Fri, 28th May 2010 22:51    Post subject:
i have a question, you have said that those two computers both are connected to the same router
and both have problems connecting to the internet... did you checked that those computers have different gateways that connect to this router

and like it was said earlier try reseting your router, they have always a little hole in the back with a button that can only be pressed by a pin or something thin

edit:
or try reading the pdf up above


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PostPosted: Fri, 28th May 2010 23:21    Post subject:
well according to that router you can hook up your notebook, look at the ip the dhcp is sending to you and give fix IP numbers to the other two computers by increasing the last digit by 1 for each. That should at least solve the problem for today and tomorrow:)

Don't forget to set the gateway to the routers ip adress (f.e. 192.168.1.1) and the subnetmask to 255.255.255.0 (255.255.0.0 ??)


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PostPosted: Fri, 28th May 2010 23:52    Post subject:
I've read the PDF about the SP3-issue, but the mentioned IP address in that PDF doesn't work. Im yet to find an IP that allows me to access the modem Confused None work...


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PostPosted: Sat, 29th May 2010 00:00    Post subject:
well since your laptop works with it, you can read out the IP address of the modem by ipconfig
the gateway IP should be the same as the IP of the modem
then type in that IP address in your browser...


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PostPosted: Sat, 29th May 2010 00:13    Post subject:
iconized wrote:
well since your laptop works with it, you can read out the IP address of the modem by ipconfig
the gateway IP should be the same as the IP of the modem
then type in that IP address in your browser...


Well it doesn't work either Sad

I did however write down my IP and DNS from the laptop, connected the modem to the non-working PC, typed in the IP/DNS/Subnet manually, and it worked! So its obviously a DHCP issue?


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PostPosted: Sat, 29th May 2010 00:36    Post subject:
well do that to the one pc that will be needed tomorrow then you have a workaround but no solution


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PostPosted: Sat, 29th May 2010 00:51    Post subject:
Try get ahold of a new NIC? Since everyting works with ur laptop it seems as something is fucking up with your integrated one..
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PostPosted: Sat, 29th May 2010 01:16    Post subject:
iconized wrote:
well do that to the one pc that will be needed tomorrow then you have a workaround but no solution


Yup, managed to get the credit card PC to work and called it a day Smile

Atleast they can still sell stuff tomorrow, and that's the important thing.

Thanks to everyone who posted here and helped out! Smile


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PostPosted: Sat, 29th May 2010 03:32    Post subject:
Please Obi-Wan you're my only hope
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