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 Posted: Mon, 29th Mar 2010 23:04 Post subject: High Court Finds Newzbin Liable For Copyright Infringement |
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"Newzbin, the Internet’s premier Usenet indexer, has lost its High Court case against several Hollywood movie studios. Justice Kitchin found the company, which turned over more than £1 million in 2009, liable for copyright infringement and will issue an injunction restricting its activities later this week."
http://torrentfreak.com/high-court-finds-newzbin-liable-for-copyright-infringement-100329/
http://www.bailii.org/cgi-bin/markup.cgi?doc=/ew/cases/EWHC/Ch/2010/608.html&query=newzbin&method=boolean
Newzbin statement:
"We are very disappointed with the judgment. Regrettably the court has accepted the distorted and flawed evidence that Hollywood presented. Contrary to the finding of the court our site has not deliberately sought to index infringing material, nor to assist those of our users who use it for that purpose. The site provides a generalised search facility for binary content found on Usenet and not just infringing material. Any of the material we index can be found on any one of thousands of sites on the Internet so pursuit of us is a futile waste of everyones time and money.
Sadly the MPA are stuck in a technology stone age. Rather than addressing their own broken business models & monopolistic commercial practices they seek to curtail innovation and freedom on the Internet. It is notable, for example, that the MPA are the sponsors behind attempts to introduce Chinese internet censorship into the UK through the Digital Enterprise Bill. Perhaps if they used their energy providing what people want, rather than buying laws to sustain their own house of cards, they might have a stronger future. We certainly reject their attempt to use this decision and our site as an excuse for rushing through undemocratic laws in a wash-up just before an election.
We lacked the limitless legal funds and legions of lawyers the MPA had and that is the only reason for their win. That said, we are looking at our grounds of appeal and how we move forward to continue to provide innovation and useful search resources for our users.
Ultimately, the dinosaurs of the content industry will need to face reality; the sad thing is that winning cases such as this only damages them and puts their own future in doubt.
We will have more to say when we have digested the case and we shall put up a legal page with more details in due course."
Last edited by ManMountain on Mon, 29th Mar 2010 23:10; edited 3 times in total
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| Posted: Mon, 29th Mar 2010 23:05 Post subject: |
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TSR69
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| Posted: Mon, 29th Mar 2010 23:09 Post subject: |
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how surprisingly...
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| Posted: Tue, 30th Mar 2010 08:16 Post subject: |
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MPAA, you fucking whores..
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| Posted: Tue, 30th Mar 2010 12:10 Post subject: |
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next stop SUE GOOGLE for indexing warez
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| Posted: Tue, 30th Mar 2010 12:24 Post subject: |
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| CRAIG2 wrote: | | next stop SUE GOOGLE for indexing warez |
That's what I said too when The Pirate Bay was being sued.
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| Posted: Tue, 30th Mar 2010 15:05 Post subject: |
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It's OK, SabNzbd is so much better anyways. :9
Yes, yes I'm back.
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| Posted: Tue, 30th Mar 2010 15:38 Post subject: |
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| fisk wrote: | | It's OK, SabNzbd is so much better anyways. :9 |
Are you stupid or what, it's 2 different things.
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| Posted: Tue, 30th Mar 2010 15:42 Post subject: |
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dont forget to sue microsoft. without windows we wouldnt be able to run the software for downloading and playing movies.
also sue dell and sony, because without their screens i wouldnt be able to watch pirated movies either. my logitech mouse is used to double click and start movies playing too, so theyll have to be sued as well.
and as soon as i find the tag that shows the name of the company that MAKES this chair that i sit on when i watch pirated movies, we should fucking sue them too.
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| Posted: Tue, 30th Mar 2010 16:30 Post subject: |
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| twobells wrote: | | What makes me laugh is the "Newzbin £1 million turnover" quote, as opposed to the billion £ turn over from Hollyweird. |
I don't see how that's funny at all, or for that matter even slightly relevent.
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| Posted: Tue, 30th Mar 2010 17:33 Post subject: |
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I hope newzbin appeals this. Newzbin is the only indexing service out there. It is a great site. Using newsbin client with newzbin site has been working great for years.
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| Posted: Tue, 30th Mar 2010 17:45 Post subject: |
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| todd72173 wrote: | | I hope newzbin appeals this. Newzbin is the only indexing service out there. It is a great site. Using newsbin client with newzbin site has been working great for years. |
It is the best site but not the only.
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| Posted: Tue, 30th Mar 2010 17:46 Post subject: |
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What other sites are equivalent to newzbin?
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| Posted: Tue, 30th Mar 2010 17:47 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Tue, 30th Mar 2010 17:57 Post subject: |
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Yeah, that site looks good, thanks!
Well, I have 250+ days remaining on my newzbin account, so I hope that is not wasted.
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| Posted: Tue, 30th Mar 2010 18:05 Post subject: |
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Sheesh, I hope not for your sake.
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| Posted: Tue, 30th Mar 2010 18:06 Post subject: |
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I am actually surprised that the hammer did not come down on the binary news indexing sites earlier and something else.
News servers are centralised servers way easier to take down then millions of p2p uploaders/servers.
IMO future will be p2p via VPN service in some country outside the western world.
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| Posted: Tue, 30th Mar 2010 18:22 Post subject: |
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Ha, they'll never take down Usenet... Not Usenet itself. All of the Usenet providers will move outside the western world, and that'll be that.
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| Posted: Tue, 30th Mar 2010 18:24 Post subject: |
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yeah but then you will be needing 2 services:
- VPN proxy
- usenet
p2p just VPN
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| Posted: Tue, 30th Mar 2010 18:27 Post subject: |
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Whha why VPN proxy??
If they have secure servers out in the east, whats the problem? The ISP doesn't know what content your getting... and they won't care.
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| Posted: Tue, 30th Mar 2010 18:58 Post subject: |
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Thats bullshit speculation, and completely impossible. If all they see are packets coming in from a Usenet server, than how the hell would any court in any land prosecute? I could be downloading completely legal Linux distros all day every day, and they wouldn't be able to proove otherwise.
The ISPs couldn't block the Usenet servers either, as most usenet servers allow you download from a multitude of different ports, including HTTP port 80 if nessicary. Thus, they'd have to disable your ability to download web pages too.
At the end of the day, theres near to nothing that they can successfully do to STOP Usenet. Just like they cannot stop Torrents .. (many companies use torrents for legitimate purposes you know...)
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| Posted: Wed, 31st Mar 2010 11:50 Post subject: |
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That''s it for now Newzbin has blocked tv & movie reports, I found out when I went to grab my latest Lost ep, luckily I have SuperSearcher as well ('cause that's the kinda guy I am):
| Quote: | | The next hearing in court is mid April. Until then we are required to implement a default policy of blocking movies and TV reports. These will need to be manually authorised by us before they are published. This is cumbersome and, we appreciate, deeply unwelcome. Rest easy that it is temporary and will only last until we can get into court or until we implement a less onerous automatic filter. |
http://v2.newzbin.com/
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| Posted: Wed, 31st Mar 2010 12:09 Post subject: |
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So, what to use for movies/tv-eps until Newzbin indexes them again? Something equally as good, if possible.
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| Posted: Wed, 31st Mar 2010 12:43 Post subject: |
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Buy Newzbin credit to download free stuff! haah
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