New MMO-Kickstarter "Camelot Unchained"
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Hellifant




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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Apr 2013 10:44    Post subject: New MMO-Kickstarter "Camelot Unchained"




If you have ever heared/played Dark Age of Camelot then you will know what this PVP/RVR focused mmo will be about. DAoC has , in my opinion, still the best RVR/PVP system around , even today, and Camelot Unchained is supposed to be it´s successor.

There are alot of people from the original working on this one, and their goal is nothing less then 2 million $ through Kickstarter


http://camelotunchained.com/en/

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/13861848/camelot-unchained?ref=live
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tet666




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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Apr 2013 10:56    Post subject:
What MMOs have to rely on kickstarters now too? I thought Publisher where throwing money like mad on anything that even remotely looks like a MMO and btw isnt Mark Jacobs the Guy who was fired because Warhammer online failed because of him? Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Apr 2013 11:00    Post subject:
They rely on kickstarter because they dont have to pay real investors a damn dime and can keep all the profit!

Thats how bigger companies now exploit kickstarter.


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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Apr 2013 11:08    Post subject:
hm... 2 Million for getting the game done and building up the infrastructure for an mmo... kinda doubt thats enough


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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Apr 2013 11:12    Post subject:
Mark Jacobs (who worked on DAoC and WAR) said, that if they can get 2 million through kickstarter, he gonna throw in his own 2 million into it, and they get the rest through investors.
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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Apr 2013 11:19    Post subject:
i think its a great way to see, if there is a interest for the game. And seeing as you get the game + a month sub for a 25$ participation, its also a rather fair one. Personally, i wouldn't be surprised if this particular kickstarter will reach or exceed 5-10 million $
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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Apr 2013 11:20    Post subject:
DAoC is THE best mmo ever. If he can produce something similar Im sure my life will get fucked up once again Razz


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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Apr 2013 11:24    Post subject:
I put $120 into this project - however, I will keep an eye on it cos im not 100% sure as we havent seen anything.


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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Apr 2013 11:28    Post subject:
Ankh wrote:
DAoC is THE best mmo ever. If he can produce something similar Im sure my life will get fucked up once again Razz


Yeah well as i said they allrdy tried with WAR and failed miserably so i dont exactly see myself throwing money their way.


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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Apr 2013 11:29    Post subject:
tet666 wrote:
Ankh wrote:
DAoC is THE best mmo ever. If he can produce something similar Im sure my life will get fucked up once again Razz


Yeah well as i said they allrdy tried with WAR and failed miserably so i dont exactly see myself throwing money their way.



well that happend after EA bought Mythic
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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Apr 2013 11:33    Post subject:
I rly doubt EA was the sole reason WAR failed.
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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Apr 2013 11:33    Post subject:
Hellifant wrote:
tet666 wrote:
Ankh wrote:
DAoC is THE best mmo ever. If he can produce something similar Im sure my life will get fucked up once again Razz


Yeah well as i said they allrdy tried with WAR and failed miserably so i dont exactly see myself throwing money their way.



well that happend after EA bought Mythic


Exactly. So thats why that part doesnt bother me (and tbh, I had quite fun in WaR).


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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Apr 2013 11:35    Post subject:
tet666 wrote:
I rly doubt EA was the sole reason WAR failed.



they saw how WoW was so successfull ,so they tried a hybrid between WoW/Daoc and failed horribly Razz


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tet666




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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Apr 2013 11:40    Post subject:
I guess i just dont trust him anymore.
WAR could have been a great game and his stubbornness (at least what I read from his own posts) drove it into the ground until people could not take it anymore. I think I had more fun on WAR than I did anything post-EQ.
he was also the guy who said long before DAoC beta started that class balancing was pretty much done as they already had balanced the classes when designing the game. He is and will always be a complete and utter retard.


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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Apr 2013 11:41    Post subject:
Hellifant wrote:
Mark Jacobs (who worked on DAoC and WAR) said, that if they can get 2 million through kickstarter, he gonna throw in his own 2 million into it, and they get the rest through investors.


Mark Jacobs said alot in the last couple of years. Rolling Eyes

I'm not holding my breath after WH:O to be honest.


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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Apr 2013 12:34    Post subject:
WAR may have failed, but they added a lot of things to the genre (that every mmo now has, including wow).

And i rather enjoyed WAR. At least it had some real open pvp going on Smile If ONLY it would go free to play, i'd probably hop back in. But out of question i'll pay a monthly sub rofl.
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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Apr 2013 12:36    Post subject:
best thing it added, were the public quests which are now pretty common now
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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Apr 2013 13:21    Post subject:
Famous old game developer starts kickstarter, he has made awesome games in the past, shows artwork and talks about what the game will have and states its DRM free = 2 millions in like 1 week guaranteed.

Then some indie developer with shitloads of very nice ideas and actual gameplay from some alpha build = no success.

Now for the game itself, meh. Never liked style of DAoC.
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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Apr 2013 13:52    Post subject:
good news indeed, hope it works out
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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Apr 2013 16:08    Post subject:
Breezer_ wrote:
Famous old game developer starts kickstarter, he has made awesome games in the past, shows artwork and talks about what the game will have and states its DRM free = 2 millions in like 1 week guaranteed.

Then some indie developer with shitloads of very nice ideas and actual gameplay from some alpha build = no success.


Yeh it's a shame really. Especially when this one has a big chance of tainting crowd funding.
Everyone is going "ooh new DAOC", it wont be a DAOC and people will be very disappointed.

And somehow I just don't believe him, like he has no real passion to create something that a publisher wouldn't back. Sounds more like a way to make more for themselves then anything.

That being said, I can be totally wrong (and rather be that tbh) but he's giving me a bad vibe. The same vibe that an EA person gives me when talking about their new game.


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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Apr 2013 16:18    Post subject:
Jacobs was a EA Person not too long ago...
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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Apr 2013 16:53    Post subject:
Maybe it rubbed of on him then or he learned their ways Smug

Serious: He probably isn't the person he used to be when he was working on DAOC. And in all honesty I don't even know him from that time so can't say if he was brilliant or not.


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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Apr 2013 16:58    Post subject:
also you shouldn't judge his skills as a game designer/developer, based on his speech skills Smile
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PostPosted: Wed, 1st May 2013 22:18    Post subject:
100% funded


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PostPosted: Thu, 2nd May 2013 00:15    Post subject:
Yeey finally less spam and obnoxious posts on every other game forum \o/

Good thing, when it finally gets released the community will be a bit more mature so they wont harm the game as much as the kickstarter campaign xD


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PostPosted: Thu, 2nd May 2013 00:38    Post subject:
MORPHINEUS wrote:
a bit more mature


Aww Yeah Sure. good luck with that Laughing


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PostPosted: Thu, 2nd May 2013 01:38    Post subject:
Well a bit is just a slight increase in my book. Then again, wont be my problem: never wanted the game And still don't have high beliefs in it.

But for everyone involved I hope I'm wrong. Even for the obnoxious litte twerps (keeps more out of my games ).


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PostPosted: Mon, 14th Jul 2014 19:46    Post subject:
I'm watching their little office stream on Twitch at the moment -

I count two people actually at their desks working (one of them being a bearded hippy). Every other desk is more or less empty, with what looks like the entire office having fucked off. I did see some woman with a rainbow colored hair-cut wander into frame for just a second, though.

It's no wonder that games take as long as they do to release/the inevitable delays they have if this is the kind of work environment that's the norm in the industry.

Edit - Nevermind. Seems they were on lunch break or something. Still doesn't change the fact that the hippy was the most productive/goal oriented of the bunch! Very Happy


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PostPosted: Mon, 14th Jul 2014 20:18    Post subject:
Do they actually have something to show by now?


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