mkv with DTS sound to AC3 sound?
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Krest




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PostPosted: Sat, 30th Jan 2010 17:27    Post subject: mkv with DTS sound to AC3 sound?
Is there a program that can do that, preferably with no loss of quality?
Thanks.
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PostPosted: Sat, 30th Jan 2010 18:19    Post subject:
DTS -> AC3 = loss of quality.

If still want to do it, get both MKVToolnix (with MKVExtractGUI) and Eac3to. Extract the DTS track with MKVToolnix, convert the DTS track to AC3 and then use MKVToolnix to merge the old MKV with the new audio track. Video will not loose quality in this method.
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PostPosted: Sat, 30th Jan 2010 18:22    Post subject:
he probably uses a samsung tv Smile

i use this to convert , its a basicly a GUI for what natan described

http://www.videohelp.com/tools/PopCorn_MKV_AudioConverter
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Krest




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PostPosted: Sat, 30th Jan 2010 18:26    Post subject:
heh, yes exactly Paintface, my sammy does not like DTS, and i dont really care much for loss of sound quality since im using default speakers so I probably will not even notice the difference.
Thank you both for the help.


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PostPosted: Sat, 30th Jan 2010 18:32    Post subject:
Didn't know about that audio GUI, nice. Smile
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PostPosted: Sat, 30th Jan 2010 23:10    Post subject:
yeah, it's made specifically because the craptastic first popcorn hour and first WDTV (which I have) can't deal with DTS. fucking pain in the ass I tell you . but the tool is great, one click + relatively quick + batch encode + it can auto-detect which mkvs have dts Smile


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Krest




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PostPosted: Sat, 30th Jan 2010 23:48    Post subject:
Yeah it works great, thanks a lot paintface. Now all I need to do is convert all my movies to ac3, this is gonna take a while.
Also is that normal that some movies get lighter by almost 1 gig? Is that the difference in size between ac3 and dts? Im assuming only audio is affected by that program.


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PostPosted: Sun, 31st Jan 2010 01:21    Post subject:
Krest wrote:
Yeah it works great, thanks a lot paintface. Now all I need to do is convert all my movies to ac3, this is gonna take a while.
Also is that normal that some movies get lighter by almost 1 gig? Is that the difference in size between ac3 and dts? Im assuming only audio is affected by that program.


most DTS is 1.5 mbit while AC3 is 640K, so 500mb on a dvd5 sized rip / 1gb on a dvd9 sized rip is normal.


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PostPosted: Sun, 31st Jan 2010 04:22    Post subject:
as far as audio quality goes, i cant tell the difference.

DTS gives 1500kb/s for all channells at all times, AC3 works different as it only gives 640kb/s to the channels that need it, so you could argue AC3 is the same quality with fewer bandwidth.

I think samsung tvs can play flac audio, so you couldalways code it into flac for one time viewing pleasure if you wanna watch it without quality loss.
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PostPosted: Sun, 31st Jan 2010 04:29    Post subject:
Flac is also ~10% smaller than DTS. Smile
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Paintface




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PostPosted: Sun, 31st Jan 2010 14:12    Post subject:
iNatan wrote:
Flac is also ~10% smaller than DTS. Smile


oh? 10% smaller than the DTS core track or 10% smaller than the DTS MA ?

Good deal eitherway, might have my brother convert it to flac from now on
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PostPosted: Sun, 31st Jan 2010 15:55    Post subject:
Paintface wrote:
iNatan wrote:
Flac is also ~10% smaller than DTS. Smile


oh? 10% smaller than the DTS core track or 10% smaller than the DTS MA ?

Good deal eitherway, might have my brother convert it to flac from now on


DTS MA of course, DTS core has a constant bitrate.
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PostPosted: Sun, 31st Jan 2010 17:37    Post subject:
Flac is ~10% smaller than DTS core. That's the absurd.
Both these inefficient AC3 and DTS are used as opposed to FLAC and AAC, because people have old ass receivers that can't decode them, and can't be bothered to connect their PCs to the receiver to decode on the PC and send PCM signal to the receiver.
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PostPosted: Sun, 31st Jan 2010 19:06    Post subject:
iNatan wrote:
Flac is ~10% smaller than DTS core. That's the absurd.


You have really encountered a lossy DTS track that became smaller after transcoding to flac?
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Krest




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PostPosted: Sat, 13th Aug 2011 21:58    Post subject:
Thread resurrection with another question.

What program can be used to hardcode the included subs. Not the separate srt file but the one that is already inside the mkv file.

Somebody recommended mkvmerge, but I cannot find an option (or the way) to do so.

And MKV2AC3 doesnt have it, at least I cant find it.

My tv doesnt show the included subs, and all those spanish parts in breaking bad are really annoying.

Thanks.


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PostPosted: Thu, 24th Nov 2011 09:22    Post subject:
mkvmerge just throws the .srt file or whatever sub file you want into the container. Not sure how to hardcode them in the video itself though.
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PostPosted: Thu, 24th Nov 2011 10:39    Post subject:
would require recoding the video
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