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 Posted: Mon, 14th Dec 2009 22:04 Post subject: AMD cannot write drivers |
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Fuck them in the ass. Just had my first ever windows 7 bluescreen after using the OS all the way since the beta. Why did I have a bluescreen? Some ATI software shit itself. Not only that but I have to run with Aero off otherwise the display driver crashes and has to be reset twice a day. The 5870 has a lot of horse power but the software is total shit.
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Werelds
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| Posted: Mon, 14th Dec 2009 22:16 Post subject: |
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I haven't heard anyone with that problem yet to be honest. Blue screens are usually memory related; software only causes it if it performs some invalid operations on the memory, which is quite unlikely.
Sounds to me like your RAM is failing, run memtest yet?
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| Posted: Mon, 14th Dec 2009 22:26 Post subject: |
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The bluescreen mentioned an ati software as the fault.
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| Posted: Tue, 15th Dec 2009 10:52 Post subject: |
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| sueil wrote: | | The bluescreen mentioned an ati software as the fault. |
That's the thing with BSOD's though, they only show where the problem originated; considering drivers always get loaded in the same order, you won't be able to tell for sure whether it's the driver or not. It might also very well be something in Windows' own files that's breaking, or like I said, the RAM.
My suggestion - Do this after tomorrow though, because ATI should be release their new driver tomorrow (Dec 16th):
1. Uninstall all ATI software
2. Install http://downloads.guru3d.com/Guru3D---Driver-Sweeper-(Setup)-download-1655.html
3. Reboot into safemode
4. Run Driver Sweeper, clearing _EVERYTHING YOU CAN_
5. Reboot again
6. Let Windows get the latest default drivers from the web
7. Install the latest ATI driver.
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| Posted: Tue, 15th Dec 2009 16:59 Post subject: Re: ATI cannot write drivers |
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| sueil wrote: | | Fuck them in the ass. Just had my first ever windows 7 bluescreen after using the OS all the way since the beta. Why did I have a bluescreen? Some ATI software shit itself. Not only that but I have to run with Aero off otherwise the display driver crashes and has to be reset twice a day. The 5870 has a lot of horse power but the software is total shit. |
ATI's drivers are open source, feel free to fix them. |
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| Posted: Tue, 15th Dec 2009 17:01 Post subject: |
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Uhm... Lolque? Open source?
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| Posted: Tue, 15th Dec 2009 17:15 Post subject: |
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| iNatan wrote: | | Uhm... Lolque? Open source? |
yes |
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| Posted: Tue, 15th Dec 2009 17:15 Post subject: |
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Well, it turns out their Linux drivers are indeed open source! But shame they aren't for Windows.  Someone would have made a tool for custom Crossfire profiles by now... 
no 
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| Posted: Tue, 15th Dec 2009 17:27 Post subject: |
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| iNatan wrote: | Well, it turns out their Linux drivers are indeed open source! But shame they aren't for Windows. Someone would have made a tool for custom Crossfire profiles by now...
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I was expecting a no u! |
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| Posted: Tue, 15th Dec 2009 17:30 Post subject: |
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well the tongue of the smiley kinda makes a U shape 
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| Posted: Tue, 15th Dec 2009 17:31 Post subject: |
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| iNatan wrote: | | well the tongue of the smiley kinda makes a U shape |
nice save |
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| Posted: Wed, 16th Dec 2009 13:19 Post subject: |
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9.12 Drivers for Windows 7 and Vista
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| Posted: Wed, 16th Dec 2009 13:36 Post subject: |
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Did they add a profile for NFS Shift?  I was playing with a Dirt 2 EXE name up until now.
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| Posted: Wed, 16th Dec 2009 13:43 Post subject: |
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Shift.exe is present so yeah it has a profile, though from what I've read the main performance improvement is the 1.02 update.
(But for Crossfire configurations, you use a 4870X2 don't you?, a working profile can improve performance a bit further.)
Still from what I've read Dirt2.exe renaming improves performance a bit better. 
EDIT: Pretty far down though so there might have been a more basic profile in earlier drivers.
(Newest one is BF*Game.exe which I assume is either Battlefield 1943 or Bad Company 2's beta after that is Dirt 2 and eh "dairydash.exe" followed by SamHD.exe, Sanctuary.exe, WinDVD.exe IW4?P.exe, Avatar.EXE S8Game-F.exe and so on, Borderlands, Dark Void, Saboteur, Red Faction Guerrilla and a few others like APGame.exe for Aliens Vs predator and even Ceville.exe and a few other more casual titles are present.)
EDIT: atiumdag.dll usually has the EXE names for most normal titles and applications whereas atidxx32.dll covers DX10/DX11 and test applications like AFR-Friendly.exe or Dirt 2, RE 5, Lost Planet and so on.
(Dirt 2 is present in both dll files as well.)
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| Posted: Wed, 16th Dec 2009 13:46 Post subject: |
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Yeah, there was some flickering when running through Shift.exe With Dirt2.exe it was all gone and also better performance here and there (mainly no microstuttering).
How do you check which EXE files are present? Hex editing?
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| Posted: Wed, 16th Dec 2009 13:50 Post subject: |
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Yeah I use a normal hex editor, I edited my post a bit to show which files I probe, same can be done for NVIDIA drivers although the various utilities like nHancer work even better and are a bit easier to use from what I've read.
(ATI is a bit more closed with less third party tools but it works pretty well, still having a profile editor in CCC somewhere would help.)
EDIT: I can't see any advanced details however but EXE names are posted as plain text but any optimization such as via ATI Catalyst AI isn't shown and neither is CF scaling like AFR or split so it's a bit vague but if there is a exe name then there is a profile for it.
(As I saw with 9.8 adding a profile for Gothic3 - Forgotten Gods.exe so you didn't have to rename it to Gothic3.exe to avoid flickering which is what the optimizations via Catalyst AI prevented, should have left the EXE name intact though during development as this doesn't cover the German version with Gothic3 Gotterdammerung.exe, hehe.)
EDIT: Speaking of foreign titles Divinity 2 and Venetica still doesn't seem to have a profile, same with many Russian titles and so on, and I can't find one for Pripyat but perhaps xrGame.exe also covers that one as the name isn't changed though I'd imagine DX11 needs it's own set of functionality.
EDIT: Some of the utility EXE names are pretty interesting as well like Smoke.exe, Cloth.exe, AFR-Tutorial.exe and ScreenSpaceAO.exe there's also utility stuff like AFR-FriendlyD3D.exe which forces AFR crossfire scaling albeit it's pretty rough for most titles so normally not recommended and the opposite which is ForceSingleGPU.exe.
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I still maintain that ATI are foolish not to release (or make documentation) a tool for making custom profiles. Would save them a lot of bad PR. Even outsourcing this to the community somewhat can be even better with the proper documentation.
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| Posted: Wed, 16th Dec 2009 18:53 Post subject: |
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A new link if the other one doesn't work for people http://jump.fm/LOCMX
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| Posted: Wed, 16th Dec 2009 19:05 Post subject: |
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looking to put some of these 9.12/s on a xp machine are they available yet? not seen any myself..
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| Posted: Wed, 16th Dec 2009 20:29 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Thu, 17th Dec 2009 11:09 Post subject: |
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A bit off topic, but whatever. Does the 9.12 fix problems with 2D stuff in Borderlands? 9.9, 9.11 and 9.12RC2 BSOD me if I point any gun or anything with 2D menu coming up. Messed with those drivers last weekend and decided to go back to 9.7.. Borderlands is fine and so is Dirt 2 with those.
Hehe, yeah, I gotta agree that ATI still doesn't do proper job on their drivers, but they've improved since years back. By then their job was awful.
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| Posted: Thu, 17th Dec 2009 12:00 Post subject: |
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remember the 9.12 are coming out today, the ones released 2 days ago are betas
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| Posted: Thu, 17th Dec 2009 19:17 Post subject: |
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That link will give 403.
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