The Bourne Lolacy [R, 2012]
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PostPosted: Tue, 1st Dec 2009 03:25    Post subject: The Bourne Lolacy [R, 2012]
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Universal has announced a fourth movie in the hit Bourne franchise.

Star Matt Damon and director Paul Greengrass will return for the new instalment, reports Variety.

The pair are currently working together on Iraq-set thriller The Green Zone, after which Damon will shoot Steven Soderberghโ€™s The Informant.

Greengrass directed the second and third films in the series, which is based on author Robert Ludlum's trilogy.

It was reported in 2006 that the franchise may stretch to five movies, but both Damon and Greengrass were reluctant to continue after the third film.

Damon insisted last year that he was "definitely done" with playing hitman Jason Bourne, saying: "I think we've ridden that horse as far as we can."

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Greengrass leaving 'Bourne' franchise?

Director Paul Greengrass has reportedly walked away from the fourth Bourne movie due to disagreements regarding the script and budget concerns.

Without seeking Greengrass's approval, Universal hired Josh Zetumer to rewrite George Nolfi's screenplay for the next Bourne thriller, reports The Playlist. It is thought that this move as well as Universal's worries over the helmer's budget-management skills contributed to his departure.

The price tag on Greengrass's forthcoming Green Zone has apparently swelled to almost $150m (ยฃ91m) due to reshoots.

The filmmaker directed 2004's The Bourne Supremacy and 2007's The Bourne Ultimatum. Both films starred Matt Damon in the lead role.

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PostPosted: Tue, 1st Dec 2009 04:16    Post subject:
"sad" news.

Anyways no Greengrass, definitely no Damon.

And also I have read 3 different budgets on that Green Zone now from 80-150 mio dollars :E


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PostPosted: Tue, 1st Dec 2009 08:03    Post subject:
I love the Bourne movies, but I won't be watching this. It's a recipe for disaster.

Green Zone on the other hand. Bring it on!


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PostPosted: Tue, 1st Dec 2009 09:43    Post subject:
Well, tbh, if you guys remember, there were many troubles with the third as well (including Matt Damon making fun of the script at one point); turned out to be the best of the three films. The studio just has to get over themselves and invest the proper money.
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PostPosted: Tue, 1st Dec 2009 09:54    Post subject:
Greengrass out ? excelent.Maybe in this way we will get rid of the action scenes shot by a drugged cameraman on a trambuline Rolling Eyes





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I prefer the first bourne film of the trilogy, iNatan. You make weird general assumptions Very Happy


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Let's face it even Greengrass is bored by the prospect of another extended episode of 24/video game with Matt running from one migraine inducing set-piece to another.





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PostPosted: Tue, 1st Dec 2009 10:04    Post subject:
zipfero wrote:
I prefer the first bourne film of the trilogy, iNatan. You make weird general assumptions Very Happy

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PostPosted: Tue, 1st Dec 2009 10:35    Post subject:
meh , i thought the 2nd was the best , but if Greengrass really exited , i doubt that Damon will be staying , even if Nolfi is currently directing him in The Adjustment Bureau , so who knows , Nolfi might double bill as a writer and director for Bourne 4 .

oh and Green Zone looks like a Bourne movie ..


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PostPosted: Tue, 1st Dec 2009 10:44    Post subject:
why would greengrass be a dealbreaker for you lot? the first film WAS the best, and greengrasses followups never topped it. the second film was meh, third was pretty good, but yeah... this isnt like singer leaving xmen to be replaced by fucking rushhour or something... at least not yet...

i could care either way if another bourne film is made, but i dont think not having him on board should immediately worry anyone.

start worrying if the replacement is ratner or McG, though.


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PostPosted: Tue, 1st Dec 2009 11:21    Post subject:
no, third one WAS the best Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Tue, 1st Dec 2009 11:23    Post subject:
true, right after the first one, the third one was definitely the best.


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PostPosted: Tue, 1st Dec 2009 11:29    Post subject:
chiv wrote:
true, right after the third one, the first one was definitely the best.

I agree.
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iNatan wrote:
chiv wrote:
true, right after the first one, the third one was definitely the best.

Yeah i agree, the third film wasnt as good as the original.


glad you're finally seeing sense.


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PostPosted: Tue, 1st Dec 2009 13:51    Post subject:
iNatan wrote:
Well, tbh, if you guys remember, there were many troubles with the third as well (including Matt Damon making fun of the script at one point); turned out to be the best of the three films. The studio just has to get over themselves and invest the proper money.


Keep in mind that the original three movies were based on novels that followed a coherent storyline which is finished now. The new script will have no ground structure to build upon, especially because the third movie definitely closed the storyline. I expect this to turn out like the bond movies after the writers ran out of cold-war scenarios (Tomorrow never dies, The world is not enough, Die another day): the script writer will get too much freedom and try to put his own ego and taste into the script, no matter whether it fits Jason Bourne or not.

About the money remark: Die another day was the biggest budgeted bond movie of its time and still turned out to be pure shit Sad
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The movies had very little to do with the books besides some general ideas.
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PostPosted: Tue, 1st Dec 2009 14:44    Post subject:
And these general ideas are gone now. Someone will have to make up a totally new story and try to hit the tone of the previous movies, not an easy task.
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PostPosted: Tue, 1st Dec 2009 16:04    Post subject:
no damon, no win.


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PostPosted: Tue, 1st Dec 2009 18:57    Post subject: Re: Fourth Bourne Film (Untitled)
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Damon insisted last year that he was "definitely done" with playing hitman Jason Bourne, saying: "I think we've ridden that horse as far as we can."


I think that says it all. He must have probably heard hundreds of script ideas for the next bourne and if he (the person being paid lots of money to be in the movie) doesn't want to do another one then I think we should trust his choice.

But it doesn't matter what we or even matt damon thinks because the studios know that the bourne franchise can be milked for a few more movies. Like they say about those Saw movies, they'll keep making them until it is profitable. They might even get some teen-idol Sad to play bourne and make it on a budget AND get some of that teen demographic.

I can picture the writers pitching 'stories' right now. How about Bourne in Eyeraq/Afghanistan? Or Bourne vs some rogue russian general. You know how those russian generals love going rogue. Or Bourne is like Jack Bauer fighting some terrorist cell in the US. That's pretty big right now right? And we could have like TEN black SUVs pull up with men in suits and Bourne fights them all AND a car full of generic middle-eastern types.
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PostPosted: Tue, 1st Dec 2009 19:01    Post subject:
Bourne schmourne, Taken was way better and they ought to do a sequel for that.
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PostPosted: Tue, 1st Dec 2009 21:54    Post subject:
Taken started out well, but ultimately was a disappointment and I have nightmares after seeing Maggie Grace run like a retard on the airport. No thanks to that too.

People can say what they want about Greengrass and his cinematography, but I think the shaky cam and fast cuts worked very well in the Bourne movies, because they were done in a comprehensible and stylish way that fit with the action.


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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Dec 2009 08:58    Post subject:
Parallax_ wrote:
Taken started out well, but ultimately was a disappointment and I have nightmares after seeing Maggie Grace run like a retard on the airport. No thanks to that too.

People can say what they want about Greengrass and his cinematography, but I think the shaky cam and fast cuts worked very well in the Bourne movies, because they were done in a comprehensible and stylish way that fit with the action.

i'm with you on this , Taken is really fucking overrated
i think the pg13 shit usually means less realism , so any R-Rated revenge flick has a great advantage , but even with that , some will fuck it up badly .. see Death Sentence , i'm never gonna get those 2 hours back.

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It took 3 times for me to watch taken until it got old. On the last run, me and my friends watched it while stoned and we counted how many people he actually killed... Think it was 38.
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PostPosted: Sun, 2nd May 2010 17:11    Post subject:
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Damon Officially Quits Bourne

It's a story that's had more twists, turns and sleight of hand bluffery than its own protagonist.

But it finally looks like Matt Damon is hanging up his Jason Bourne ass-kicking shoes for good.

After numerous stop-starts, director Paul Greengrass finally confirmed late last year that he was officially off the project.

While industry rumours pointed towards a rift between the director and the studio - implying that Universal had secretly hired a second writer to pen a script just in case Greengrass didn't deliver - Greengrass officially bowed out far more gracefully stating that he had 'outgrown' the franchise and simply needed a new challenge.

Matt Damon continued to confirm his potential involvement with the project until now, where The Metro has revealed that he has officially ruled himself out from any further Bourne adventures.

"It's time for someone else to take on the action hero role," the 39-year-old said. "I don't think anyone wants to see me say "I don't remember,' again."

"But I think there's a good way to do a prequel with someone else. As for me coming back to do him again, I'm just saying no."

If it's a case of growing old gracefully, he could always look to Harrison Ford and Jackie Chan as successfully ageing action heroes, but the likelihood is that without Bourne and Green Zone collaborator Paul Greengrass, he's simply lost interest.

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PostPosted: Sun, 2nd May 2010 17:22    Post subject:
YES! The Bourne Trilogy is one of my fav movies/trilogies of all time.

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Tho, you can still tell its studio MA

Can't wait for this


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Syco, read the thread Laughing
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PostPosted: Sun, 2nd May 2010 21:02    Post subject:
well maybe michael bay can reboot it with more 'splosions and with that dude from twilight as borne.


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