[XBOX360] Playing region free games = Bannable?
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Snoepgun




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PostPosted: Sat, 5th Dec 2009 21:16    Post subject: [XBOX360] Playing region free games = Bannable?
Hey people.

I got a question for you guys.
My last XBOX360 got banned begin November.

I bought a new one and firmware'd it again etc etc.

/me didn't care a shit of playing early releases online and /me never checked if it was verified by ABGX. Now with my 3rd XBOX360 that I just bought, I want to be very carefull this year and check if it's working.

Now here's my question: Is playing Region Free games more detectable for Micrococks to detect for banning etc? (im in a pal region) (Netherlands)

Thanks


Greetz,
Snoepgun.
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VGAdeadcafe




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PostPosted: Sat, 5th Dec 2009 21:32    Post subject:
As long as you play after the official release date *in your region* then I think you're fine.

Truth is, all discussions about ban reasons are guesswork. Always validate the images though.
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ITRUK




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PostPosted: Sat, 5th Dec 2009 21:42    Post subject:
Its easy enough to import games nowa day's. Take Ghostbusters for example, it was released June in the US, but due to Sony's input, it wasn't released in Europe until November!

That was a Region free game, and five months is plenty enough to import the game Smile
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Snoepgun




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PostPosted: Sat, 5th Dec 2009 21:45    Post subject:
ITRUK wrote:
Its easy enough to import games nowa day's. Take Ghostbusters for example, it was released June in the US, but due to Sony's input, it wasn't released in Europe until November!

That was a Region free game, and five months is plenty enough to import the game Smile


Okay true. But lets take Mx_Vs_Atv_Reflex_XBOX360-SPARE, the game is region free but I want to be very carefull this year and see if that works (which I doubt)

Edit: I'm thinking about to buy 3 more XBOX360's and just for example:

* Use a XBOX360 with 1.6 and use activate.iso to play 4th wave games (Region free games also)
* Use a XBOX360 with 1.6 and use activate.iso to play 4th wave games (No region free games)
* Use a XBOX360 with 1.6 and don't use activate.iso but play region free games.
* Use a XBOX360 with 1.6 and don't use activate.iso and no region free games.

All with no early releases and abgx verified games.

And then see which console's are getting banned. Allthough its a little of investing but maybe nice to find out what's secure and whats not.


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me7




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PostPosted: Sat, 5th Dec 2009 21:52    Post subject:
Why should region free games be easier to detect as copies? I don't see the logic behind it.
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Snoepgun




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PostPosted: Sat, 5th Dec 2009 21:53    Post subject:
me7 wrote:
Why should region free games be easier to detect as copies? I don't see the logic behind it.


Because if some games are made for lets take PAL and they'r region free. And just play the game on an NTSC console, then I think M$ can see you're playing a PAL game on a NTSC console which is kinda weird.

Allthough. Thats my theory I guess..
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me7




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PostPosted: Sat, 5th Dec 2009 22:17    Post subject:
Snoepgun wrote:
me7 wrote:
Why should region free games be easier to detect as copies? I don't see the logic behind it.


Because if some games are made for lets take PAL and they'r region free


Stop right there. How can a game be region code free AND region locked to PAL?
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Snoepgun




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PostPosted: Sat, 5th Dec 2009 22:23    Post subject:
me7 wrote:
Snoepgun wrote:
me7 wrote:
Why should region free games be easier to detect as copies? I don't see the logic behind it.


Because if some games are made for lets take PAL and they'r region free


Stop right there. How can a game be region code free AND region locked to PAL?


Maybe I'm wrong. But sometimes in the NFO I see something like this:

PAL.....REGION FREE

Maybe that makes me kinda mindblowing.
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Glottis
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PostPosted: Sat, 5th Dec 2009 22:24    Post subject:
More useless speculations ...


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me7




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PostPosted: Sat, 5th Dec 2009 22:26    Post subject:
PAL and NTSC are dead, there are no PAL and NTSC games anymore. All X360 games output a video signal following the HDTV standard.

Such nfos mean that the ripped game was bought in Europe, but the game itself is usualy no different then the US version (except for localization), none is flagged as PAL or NTSC.
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bushwacka




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PostPosted: Sat, 5th Dec 2009 22:27    Post subject:
Snoepgun wrote:
me7 wrote:
Snoepgun wrote:


Because if some games are made for lets take PAL and they'r region free


Stop right there. How can a game be region code free AND region locked to PAL?


Maybe I'm wrong. But sometimes in the NFO I see something like this:

PAL.....REGION FREE

Maybe that makes me kinda mindblowing.

it's just a misnomer - in this case, PAL only refers to the continent where the game was bought and maybe the languages included (multi5 in most cases).
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Snoepgun




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PostPosted: Sat, 5th Dec 2009 22:29    Post subject:
Ah okay thanks guys. So there's no flag for that kinda things. So region-free games which are verified are nothing more dangerous than each region locked game. Okok Smile Thanks all.
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deelix
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PostPosted: Sat, 5th Dec 2009 22:31    Post subject:
Glottis wrote:
More useless speculations ...
+1
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garus
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PostPosted: Sat, 5th Dec 2009 23:01    Post subject:
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Snoepgun




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PostPosted: Sat, 5th Dec 2009 23:18    Post subject:
garus wrote:
You don't know shit about MS detecting pirates, so this is pointless.

IT would be better if you simply buy the games you want to play online. You have no problems with buying subscription and 3 consoles, but you won't buy a game? Sounds retarded.


THINK. Whats cheaper? spending 200 euro's per year or buy EACH game..
I think the second option will empty your wallet very fast.
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PostPosted: Sat, 5th Dec 2009 23:42    Post subject:
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bushwacka




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PostPosted: Sat, 5th Dec 2009 23:58    Post subject:
Snoepgun wrote:
garus wrote:
You don't know shit about MS detecting pirates, so this is pointless.

IT would be better if you simply buy the games you want to play online. You have no problems with buying subscription and 3 consoles, but you won't buy a game? Sounds retarded.


THINK. Whats cheaper? spending 200 euro's per year or buy EACH game..
I think the second option will empty your wallet very fast.

think about how many games come out per year that are really multiplayer-worthy like MW2. and even if it's more than the cost of a new console - i'd rather support the devs than MS itself.
and if you're worried about that buying games would make you go bankrupt, it may be about time to get a job Laughing
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prime2009




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PostPosted: Sun, 6th Dec 2009 04:58    Post subject:
you do know ixtreme 1.6 will get you banned right? enough said. Try 1.41/1.51/5.3 options (dependent on drive)
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bushwacka




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PostPosted: Sun, 6th Dec 2009 05:16    Post subject:
prime2009 wrote:
you do know ixtreme 1.6 will get you banned right? enough said. Try 1.41/1.51/5.3 options (dependent on drive)

huh? why would ix1.6 get one banned, but not its predecessors? don't wanna debate about it, i'm just curious
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deelix
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PostPosted: Sun, 6th Dec 2009 10:55    Post subject:
yeah, I either think all of the xboxes will be banned (most likely) or non of them
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