FARKING 1080P CRAPPY PLAYBACK
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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Sep 2009 16:57    Post subject: FARKING 1080P CRAPPY PLAYBACK
I got a media centre PC with:

GA-MA78GM-S2H (with integrated ATI HD3200 gfx card)

4gb memory

cpu is AMD 4850e

However, playback of 1080p material is shitty as hell.

The audio is fine, but the video is slower than normal and instantly gets out of sync with the video (Which ends up wayyy ahead of the video).

I can't get my head around it - i'm using Vista Ultimate.

720p is fine.

Using CCCP for codecs, haali splitter to ffdshow vid+audio.

Someone help!


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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Sep 2009 17:03    Post subject:
Hmmm after looking into this, it sounds like the AMD 4850e ISNT powerful enough to decode 1080p content without GPU hardware support. As my 3200HD is onboard, I'm guessing that is the problem...!


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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Sep 2009 17:07    Post subject:
Does anyone know anything about DXVA (DIrectX Video Accelleration) ? I've been told it may do the trick in my situation?


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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Sep 2009 17:17    Post subject:
So you recommend doing the DXVA route? The links to get it set up are all broken.. I did use GOogle Cache but it looks pretty damn complicated.

Can you recommend?


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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Sep 2009 17:33    Post subject:
Well, it wouldn't hurt to try - you have no other choice. Try reading some guides on how to enable DXVA in MPC-HC. What is good about their DXVA implementation is that it supports up to L5.1, so you don't have to hunt for the DXVA releases (which are usually inferior quality-wise).
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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Sep 2009 17:47    Post subject:
One more question - currently I use Vista Media Centre to view vids. I have a plugin called "Media Browser" which is awesome.

It sounds like I would have to use MPC-HC in order to take advantage of DXVA? I wonder if I can get Vista Media Centre to use MPC-HC to play files by default... do you know if it will integrate into WMC?


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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Sep 2009 17:49    Post subject:
*edit*

Media Browser plugin allows you to select a video player for any video format accept WMV. So, infact, this is looking possible.


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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Sep 2009 18:00    Post subject:
So it opens the player you set? Wow, that sounds neat. So yeah, use MPC-HC for MKVs.

But make sure you set all the settings properly in MPC-HC. Look for guides (the first things that come up in Google are good enough).
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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Sep 2009 18:40    Post subject:
There are no good guides for enabling DXVA - the main site seems to be down, and i've failed to find a good guide yet. Will keep looking!


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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Sep 2009 19:23    Post subject:
thread hijack: will 720p rips play on a Intel Atom N270 based netbook?


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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Sep 2009 19:24    Post subject:
Depends which Netbook!!! lol

But what would be the point on such a small screen? Unless you wanted to Video out...


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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Sep 2009 19:39    Post subject:
Horrordee wrote:
Depends which Netbook!!! lol

But what would be the point on such a small screen? Unless you wanted to Video out...


looking at one with res of 1366 × 768 (11 or 12").... maybe something like this?
http://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?sku_id=0665000FS10129272&catid=25313&logon=&langid=EN#


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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Sep 2009 20:40    Post subject:
Yeah, Atom should be enough to watch most 720p encodes. Horrordee, I will see if I can find a good guide for you later.
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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Sep 2009 20:53    Post subject:
Horrordee wrote:
There are no good guides for enabling DXVA - the main site seems to be down, and i've failed to find a good guide yet. Will keep looking!


If you use MPC, I think you need to use the internal AVC decoder, set the renderer to EVR and press CRTL+J during playback to see if DXVA is enabled.
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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Sep 2009 21:27    Post subject:
me7 wrote:
Horrordee wrote:
There are no good guides for enabling DXVA - the main site seems to be down, and i've failed to find a good guide yet. Will keep looking!


If you use MPC, I think you need to use the internal AVC decoder, set the renderer to EVR and press CRTL+J during playback to see if DXVA is enabled.

Yep. And for subtitles support, renderer needs to be EVR Custom. If CRTL+J shows that DXVA is not active then either the video was encoded with DXVA incompatible codec or some other codecs on your system interfere. Usually it is ffdshow.


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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Sep 2009 21:59    Post subject:
iNatan wrote:
Yeah, Atom should be enough to watch most 720p encodes. Horrordee, I will see if I can find a good guide for you later.


THanks!


^^^ NOw i'm confused. If i set it up, will everything be auto? I dont wanna be pressing control / alt / whatever all the effing time!


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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Sep 2009 23:25    Post subject:
iNatan wrote:
Yeah, Atom should be enough to watch most 720p encodes. Horrordee, I will see if I can find a good guide for you later.


that one I linked to was based on 'AMD Athlon Neo' CPU, but I assume that should be ok also? also, any positives to ATI x1250 graphics (it doesn't support H264 decoding)?"


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PostPosted: Sat, 19th Sep 2009 01:00    Post subject:
Horrordee wrote:
iNatan wrote:
Yeah, Atom should be enough to watch most 720p encodes. Horrordee, I will see if I can find a good guide for you later.


THanks!


^^^ NOw i'm confused. If i set it up, will everything be auto? I dont wanna be pressing control / alt / whatever all the effing time!

No, it is only for testing. You press CTRL+J and various video properties overlays the video. Including the status of DXVA.
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PostPosted: Sat, 19th Sep 2009 14:09    Post subject:
ah ok cool.

just trying to find a good guide...


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PostPosted: Sat, 19th Sep 2009 14:13    Post subject:
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=123537

Doom 9 is pretty much the defacto place to go for all things video.
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PostPosted: Sat, 19th Sep 2009 14:20    Post subject:
Also check this out:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1276776&highlight=HD3200#post1276776

If you can't get the latest version to do DXVA, try the version posted there.
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PostPosted: Tue, 22nd Sep 2009 13:42    Post subject:
http://nunnally.ahmygoddess.net/watching-h264-videos-using-dxva/

Safe to follow that guide?


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PostPosted: Wed, 23rd Sep 2009 00:05    Post subject:
^^^ Seems like a solid guide. Personally, the only two things that I did on a clean Vista PC(no third-party codecs, no ffdshow, only iTunes + Quicktime) are
1) installed MPCHC and switched it to EVR Custom.
2) installed AC3Filter and made it preferred decoder via AC3Config -> System tab -> Prefer AC3Filter.

That's it. I didn't install Haali Media Splitter as every .mkv files worked just fine.


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PostPosted: Thu, 15th Oct 2009 12:30    Post subject:
Hmm this is soooo weird.

I just downloaded the Star Trek 1080p and it works, flawlessly. I don't need to enable DXVA or anything, it works fine.

So why is it that Defiance 1080p wouldn't, and nor would Homecoming 1080p.

What is going on!!


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PostPosted: Thu, 15th Oct 2009 12:34    Post subject:
Also, it doesn't seem to be running VSync - aka I get some lines at times. This is using FFDshow and Haali. Anyone know how I can turn that shit on in Vista?


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PostPosted: Thu, 15th Oct 2009 12:42    Post subject:
You are using ffdshow to decode all these movies? If one works with ffdshow, others should as well... :\ What are the exact releases?

As for avoiding tear lines (v-sync), what player are you using? If you select the EVR renderer, in Vista and 7 it is fully synchronized, so you will not see any tear lines.
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PostPosted: Thu, 15th Oct 2009 12:57    Post subject:
Heh, the player is Windows Media Player - gotta use it, as it's a media centre PC running Windows Media Centre!

I'm sorry, but i don't see how I can select the renderer in FFDshow? I see lots of options, but nothing like that :/

But yes, it is Vista...

As for releases:

THOSE I REMEMBER NOT WORKING (Audio loosing sync):
Homecoming.2009.1080p.BluRay.x264-BestHD - 8351 kbps (from NFO)
Defiance.1080p.BluRay.x264-HD1080 - 9906 kbps (from NFO)

NEWEST TEST - DOES WORK (but no Vsync yet):
Star.Trek.1080p.BluRay.x264-METiS - 9232 kbps (from NFO)


Also seen a "higher bitrate version" of Star Trek, so going to grab this and test it:
Star.Trek.2009.BluRay.1080p.x264.DTS - 13 Mbps


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PostPosted: Thu, 15th Oct 2009 13:06    Post subject:
You can not select the renderer in a decoder (like ffdshow), it's a player option. WMP on Vista will always use EVR afaik
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PostPosted: Thu, 15th Oct 2009 13:09    Post subject:
First, since you are using WMC, are you sure ffdshow is even used (red icon should show on the taskbar during play). I know there are problems with WMC and ffdshow (and MKV - WMC is problematic), though, so be careful. as for vsync, WMC and WMP use only EVR, so it's strange that you see tear lines... :\

Edit: Just to be sure, you have ffdshow like this?

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