Downloading Games
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-=Cartoon=-
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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Jun 2004 03:37    Post subject: Downloading Games
Just wondering why dont devs/publishers let us do it ?

Pay for the game and download it from there servers and it would include say a PDF manual and Unique Key

HL2 is gonna do it.. so why cant other games ?

I mean take Ground Control 2 ... transport giant.. codename panzers.... all games are out in germany and not in any english speaking countrys (Due to distributors i guess) and in a way it kinda encourages piracy..

So it would be good to have a worldwide release date where u could pay the fee.. download the game and everyone can have it at the same time. And well they could charge a little less cause no boxes etc)

What do u guys think ???

Personally if they had this option i think i would buy ALOT more games...
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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Jun 2004 03:45    Post subject:
Download online games is real, its being done just not by %100 of them,.

So if the game(s) you like arn't downloadable don't assume its just not at all happening,.

You need to do some research on it and you might be surprised how many games are downloadable, hell even Half-life2 is going to be downloadable.
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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Jun 2004 04:10    Post subject:
It's an idea, but the fact is - with today's growing technology in games, the games are now humongous in size. Most companies cant afford to keep a server open for people to download 3gb+ games. Valve can do it for HL2 and the other cuz they're still rakin in the cash big time, but other companies? I dont think it'll become a trend..


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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Jun 2004 04:36    Post subject:
I like haveing the disc incase I uninstall it, then I can re-install later. And yea like mentioned above, games are frigging huge these days. Plus alot of people are still useing 56k. By the time a 56ker got done downloading a 3gb+, they could have gone out, mowed some lawns for the money, went to store to buy it, play it, beat it, masterbate to some porno, and then start a different game. All before the download was done.

But I guess I do agree, its a nice offer, in case someone would prefer to download it. Like if they lived out in the middle of nowhere and didn't really live by a store that carried games.


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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Jun 2004 06:33    Post subject:
SoulWound wrote:
I like haveing the disc incase I uninstall it, then I can re-install later. And yea like mentioned above, games are frigging huge these days. Plus alot of people are still useing 56k. By the time a 56ker got done downloading a 3gb+, they could have gone out, mowed some lawns for the money, went to store to buy it, play it, beat it, masterbate to some porno, and then start a different game. All before the download was done.

But I guess I do agree, its a nice offer, in case someone would prefer to download it. Like if they lived out in the middle of nowhere and didn't really live by a store that carried games.


have a wank too? on a 56k? u can only get pics or low quality samples on that stuff Razz. d/lin games was mentioned a few yrs back for the PS3. i dont reckon the idea will work at this moment in time, however when it is available ppl will complain and will get pissed off if they lose the HD with the games on so will demand a burning device. this will just lead to easier pirating and will just be 1 big circle. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Jun 2004 12:23    Post subject:
I would rather Hold an Official CD than pay the same ammount for a downloaded file

Think about it. you have to Download the File which will take a Day or 2 maybe depending on how busy the servers are and have to burn it to a CD or DVD to store it.... also what happens if the file gets deleted or corrupt when downloading... how many chances do you get to press download on the link after you have paid ????


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poliisi




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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Jun 2004 13:02    Post subject:
I think the games would be cheaper if they were downloadable.
Think about it, downloading directly from the developer would eliminate a lot of useless people, import+retail+few transport companies+printing.

There aren't many people with 56k these days, and, the developers could always ship some amount of printed items to retailers.
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toms100




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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Jun 2004 13:03    Post subject:
it would be good but i think it would be unlikely that it would be any cheaper, and probably more expensive than buying it online, as most publishers would sell it at the rrp which decent gameshops would undercut alot...
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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Jun 2004 13:06    Post subject:
It's a hard thing to say "yes its a good thing" or "no its a bad thing"
Both have their advantages and disadvantages.
Sadly i think there would be alot more disadvantages over the advantages.

It could work tho.
Just say they make that option available and all you'd have to do is pay for it by credit card along with your address checked by your government as well as your ISP to varify the ip address.
They then send you a cdkey and login details to download the file/s.
After that you install the game and finish, however the only way to play it is by being connected to the net.

If they find out that it has been duplicated (somehow id imagine they would), then they (the devs) could send the feds to your door step to deal with you Very Happy
Actually i better shut up, i dont want to give Gabe Newell any ideas Very Happy


Ps. i was being sarcastic, so anybody that tries to flame/abuse my thoughts im just going to ignore you seeing that i was joking Wink


But anyway id rather the cd/dvd anyway.


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Enknown




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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Jun 2004 13:07    Post subject:
Speaking of games in german...
Are german people generally bad at english since almost all games have german language support...? Even a game like Ground Control 2 (made by swedes) dont include swedish but german...?!?
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poliisi




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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Jun 2004 13:12    Post subject:
It's traditional to some central european countries to dub everything Smile
It's great fun to watch some movies which have mutliple audio tracks and one of them is german.
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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Jun 2004 14:02    Post subject:
i would also rather have the cd case etc.. but what im saying

i would rather have the game than wait for 3 months just for a cd case

i dont know what they would do about copy protection etc.... it will be interesting to see how valve do it
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Supino




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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Jun 2004 22:39    Post subject:
I think you have a very good point Cartoon. I have thought of this as well.

Advantages:
* Faster access to new titles (Yeah, depending on connection speed, but still)
* No post/value tax (Here in Norway this is a big plus)
* Easy backup (no cd-protection, but game must have good registration methods)
* Language select (so the germans are happy)
* And finally: Good conscience for downloading
* Afterwards: Easy patching

Lots of downloaders would now actually pay for games and NForce threads would include links to pay-download. its a win-win situasion. Rips/cracks would follow shortly, but they always do..
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PostPosted: Sat, 19th Jun 2004 02:22    Post subject:
About the cost for the bandwidth... keep in mind that a publisher who choses the route of making the title downloadable for a cost would actually save money. Printing CDs/DVDs and shipping the copies everywhere on the world cost a lot too. So not needing to do that would reduce the cost probably even more than the bandwidth for the downloadable version would cost.
Of course that would even enable PC games to be cheaper than the current ones while making the same profit.
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snoop1050
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PostPosted: Sat, 19th Jun 2004 12:15    Post subject:
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keep in mind that a publisher who choses the route of making the title downloadable for a cost would actually save money.

theres not really a need for publishers if the game is downloadable.
most people hear about games from reviews anyway. when has a game poster or tv advert ever made u want to buy a game without finding out how good it is 1st? from word of mouth or reviews
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PostPosted: Sat, 19th Jun 2004 12:38    Post subject:
As said earlier, there are already games wich can be downloaded in full version and you have to buy a key to unlock them.

If i remeber right, gimpsrus released download patches for this.

I think this kind of "business model" will be very popular in the future. Just imagine, you can buy a game for one or two weeks, play it till the end, and save some money with a limited license. Its like you rent a game at a video store, wich is possible for quite some time now.
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PostPosted: Sun, 20th Jun 2004 21:33    Post subject: a site with a low yearly fee for downloads
i just do not recall the name of the site, but they charge $15 for one year of unlimited downloads of games, movies etc, from their high speed server... i'm sure most of you must know about the same, but in case u're interested, i'll check out and post the same... cheers... pupubhai!
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PostPosted: Sun, 20th Jun 2004 22:14    Post subject:
$15 bucks for unlimited movies and games cant be legal.
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PostPosted: Sun, 20th Jun 2004 23:37    Post subject: Re: a site with a low yearly fee for downloads
pupubhai wrote:
i just do not recall the name of the site, but they charge $15 for one year of unlimited downloads of games, movies etc, from their high speed server... i'm sure most of you must know about the same, but in case u're interested, i'll check out and post the same... cheers... pupubhai!


*sigh* just...... *sigh*

Where to begin....?
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PostPosted: Mon, 21st Jun 2004 01:27    Post subject: Re: a site with a low yearly fee for downloads
pupubhai wrote:
i just do not recall the name of the site, but they charge $15 for one year of unlimited downloads of games, movies etc, from their high speed server... i'm sure most of you must know about the same, but in case u're interested, i'll check out and post the same... cheers... pupubhai!


ahahahahahahaha lol
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PostPosted: Mon, 21st Jun 2004 11:16    Post subject: Re: a site with a low yearly fee for downloads
pupubhai wrote:
but they charge $15 for one year of unlimited downloads of games, movies etc, from their high speed server


they should be shot in the head then beaten with a big stick.. fuckers..


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Dirtpaw




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PostPosted: Tue, 22nd Jun 2004 05:40    Post subject:
are you talking about kazaa/morpheus/some other crap p2p soft? Very Happy
i recall you have to pay to use them shitty softs nowadays.

or it might be some new .com business who's offering movies from the 70's and unlimited games from the mid 90's.

but $15 for unlimited movies/games just can't be legal. not if it's quality products.


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PostPosted: Tue, 22nd Jun 2004 10:23    Post subject: release groups
Think of all the money publishers and developers spend on trying to make the game secure, and cd and box production, distribution, etc. Then some warez group comes along and cracks the security and releases it for everyone to download anyway. Well, I think game companies should just give up, and release their games directly to the warez groups. I mean, we download full games every day and burn them to our own CDs. It would save so much time and money, and this whole "war on piracy" would be over.

This would fix a lot of problems, because the game could come with an address to send money to, if the game is worth paying for. That way, game makers would have more of an incentive to make their games completley awesome. I mean, I ALWAYS hear about how people love the game so much they go out and buy the game, just to pay respect to the developer, right? Doesn't everybody do this? This would eliminate that extra step of going out and buying it, and it would be an end to crappy games.

Then the movie industry and the Music Industry would see how well the model works and follow suit. Instead of crappy cam recordings, you just get the actual theatre release and an address to send the money to if it was worth your time. Same with CD's. Viola! No more crappy Movies or songs.

Of course, the only flaw in my plan is human nature to be greedy.
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Supino




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PostPosted: Tue, 22nd Jun 2004 11:41    Post subject:
this idea is very similar to shareware minus the limit. It doesn't work that well, and your last statment is too true Sad
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Glottis
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PostPosted: Tue, 22nd Jun 2004 16:09    Post subject:
-=Cartoon=- wrote:
it will be interesting to see how valve do it

will? they do it already, install steam and see


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tofa




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PostPosted: Tue, 22nd Jun 2004 17:28    Post subject: download
looking for good site
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PostPosted: Tue, 22nd Jun 2004 17:56    Post subject: Re: a site with a low yearly fee for downloads
pupubhai wrote:
i just do not recall the name of the site, but they charge $15 for one year of unlimited downloads of games, movies etc, from their high speed server... i'm sure most of you must know about the same, but in case u're interested, i'll check out and post the same... cheers... pupubhai!


www.scenefuckers.com
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PostPosted: Tue, 22nd Jun 2004 21:58    Post subject:
if I was to dl a game say the hl2...I would like to dl it from then in advance of thier rls date like a day or 2 earlier then get the discs in the mail later on that week.

-JB


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tofa




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PostPosted: Wed, 23rd Jun 2004 01:44    Post subject:
i m intersted buy this site i wanna download
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darthparth




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PostPosted: Wed, 23rd Jun 2004 05:04    Post subject:
tofa - no requests..... silly n00b you should know better
pupubhai - you are probably (read: definately) getting ripped off if u register for that site and pay the money and you should know better than to post bullshit like that on the forum.
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