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nouseforaname
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If he meant it he would have done it regardless of what you tried to do to stop it, you shouldn't feel at fault ... and I doubt he would want anyone to take responsibility for what HE decided to do.
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I know...but I just cant stop thinking that there was a chance I could have stopped it. Now his son is fatherless and his wife a widow..
I just dont know how to handle this...
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nouseforaname
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| Posted: Wed, 12th Aug 2009 05:12 Post subject: |
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| Anthirs wrote: | I know...but I just cant stop thinking that there was a chance I could have stopped it. Now his son is fatherless and his wife a widow..
I just dont know how to handle this... |
you stop it, he does it next week instead. it was his (poor) decision, not yours. I don't have a problem with someone offing themselves, but with a kid it's a bit different. N=2 sample size = fail, but both of the guys I know who had a suicide (mom/dad) are still fucked up now as adults, but that was at 10 and 14.
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Epsilon
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When you're a grown up, you're accountable for your own actions unless you're otherwise mentally impaired. So as he was a grown up, the fault/responsibility is with him alone, not his friends or family.
That said, I'm sorry for your loss.
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Horrordee
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Spend time with your loved ones, they'll get you through it. If you currently mindset doesn't change in a few days, go to your doctor and get referred for some counciling.
It's likely that in a few days, you'll feel a bit better - every day it gets easier.
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Cohen
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| Posted: Wed, 12th Aug 2009 17:43 Post subject: |
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dont feel bad mate. This kind of thing is not something you can control. Do you think he would think your an asshole for not stopping him doing something that he clearly wanted?
taking your life is final, its not a last minute decision, its against our instinct and takes a long time to prepare mentally. There was some good opinions in my thread , I was also affected by this recently and it sucks..
http://www.nfohump.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=54837
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| Posted: Wed, 12th Aug 2009 18:07 Post subject: |
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ouch
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ixigia
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| Posted: Wed, 12th Aug 2009 18:29 Post subject: |
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I'm so sorry, it's a damn sad situation...but it was his own decision, not influenced by other people's words or advices (incuding your hypotetical ones). It's impossible to enter inside the meanders of human mind, especially if someone is so devasted.
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kalato
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Samething happened to a friend of mine the other day, parked his car near the train station, hide in the bushes and came out sat on the tracks with his hands on his face and the train hit him.
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| Posted: Thu, 13th Aug 2009 00:48 Post subject: |
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| kalato wrote: | | the other day, sat on the tracks with his hands on his face and the train hit him. |
how can u possibly know that? i'm sorry if its true but..
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kalato
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| Posted: Thu, 13th Aug 2009 22:57 Post subject: |
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Train driver said, he didnt have enough time to stop the train.
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| Posted: Thu, 13th Aug 2009 23:38 Post subject: |
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sounds like a fun way to go out
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| Posted: Sun, 16th Aug 2009 22:07 Post subject: |
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| Dazz99 wrote: | | sounds like a fun way to go out |
As you seem to think this thread is about fun I suggest you go and try it out yourself and see how fun it is.
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| Posted: Mon, 17th Aug 2009 20:14 Post subject: |
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very sad for you my friend
but i think its extremely selfish of your friend to commit suicide in a way like that,
by doing this he costed his family ALOT of money and left them with the misery
trains beying put on hold, passengers not able to move etc etc
like i said i feel very bad for you but he could have done it otherwise without causing so much more problems for his family
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Suiciding without causing problems for his family ? How ?
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sTo0z
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| Epsilon wrote: | When you're a grown up, you're accountable for your own actions unless you're otherwise mentally impaired. So as he was a grown up, the fault/responsibility is with him alone, not his friends or family.
That said, I'm sorry for your loss. |
I guess the idea is that depression IS being mentally impaired, chemical imbalance and all, fucks with your thinking.
Sorry to hear it Anthirs, my own brother seemed at the end of his road at one point, we were on the phone with him and he was telling us it was all over for him... we kept telling him we were going to come get him and for him to tell us where he was.
Next thing I heard over the phone was the train go by, and I was in tears... luckily, he had not stepped out in front of it. |
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A 13 year old girl just killed herself yesterday night. That's the 4th suicide in my former high school this year. Kids can't take the pressure, just pop. Fucked up shit.
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| sTo0z wrote: | | Epsilon wrote: | When you're a grown up, you're accountable for your own actions unless you're otherwise mentally impaired. So as he was a grown up, the fault/responsibility is with him alone, not his friends or family.
That said, I'm sorry for your loss. |
I guess the idea is that depression IS being mentally impaired, chemical imbalance and all, fucks with your thinking.
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We're all slaves to our neurochemistry, I don't think that makes us any less accountable for our actions.
The problem is that there are so many different defects of neurology that can impair thought processes that it's almost impossible to immediately differentiate between standard changes in mood and something more serious.
Then there is the fact that there is no universal definition of what is considered a healthy psyche, even though the government would like to think there is.
I guess the best we have are the personal assessments of those who know us well.
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