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deelix
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LeoNatan
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There are a lot of warez. 
The usual forum I get my mobile stuff from, mobilism, is down, but definitely check it out when its out of whatever they are doing. 
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deelix
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Saner
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| Posted: Mon, 27th Dec 2010 21:30 Post subject: |
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Just put "appname apk" into google.
For example for xscope
"xscope apk"
Its a piece of piss, then use adb to install it, or chuck it on your memory card and use astro or similar.
| ragnarus wrote: |
I saw things like that in here and in other "woman problems" topics so...... Am I the only one that thinks some authorities needs to be alerted about Saner and him possibly being a rapist and/or kidnapper ? |
Saner is not being serious. Unless its the subject of Santa!
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SuTuRa
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| Posted: Mon, 27th Dec 2010 21:32 Post subject: |
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I also bought a desire in the summer.
After one month sold it... The battery life is shit!
You can also go to iPmart forum. Lots of android stuff there.
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| Posted: Mon, 27th Dec 2010 21:32 Post subject: |
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I search for app on appbrain, if I need to pay I search for it on 4shared. But most of the shit is free, rooting plus adfree helps too.
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Waargh
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| Posted: Tue, 28th Dec 2010 10:26 Post subject: |
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Its a smartphone, what kind of battery life do you expect ?
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| Posted: Tue, 28th Dec 2010 10:26 Post subject: |
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That's why I love my old Nokia 5310 Express Music  it has great battery life, and that's all I'm looking in phone/mp3 player (I really use it more as mp3 player than anything else).
Being able to go to internet and have all sorts of gadgets on phone is cool, but recharging the battery every single day... No thank you...
"Quantum mechanics is actually, contrary to it's reputation, unbeliveably simple, once you take the physics out."
Scott Aaronson | chiv wrote: | | thats true you know. newton didnt discover gravity. the apple told him about it, and then he killed it. the core was never found. |
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SuTuRa
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Werelds
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| Posted: Tue, 28th Dec 2010 13:05 Post subject: |
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Angry birds runs fine on my dad's Hero (528 MHz) as long as he turns his Wifi/3G off. Stops the ads from showing, and thus means there is much less multitasking going on, can't really compare it to an iPhone as that only has the ad-free version.
As far as battery life goes: don't have tons of widgets updating every 2 seconds. Considering the limited amount of multitasking the iPhone 4 can do compared to all the crap you can get running in the background on Android, it does take a somewhat more savvy person to make sure it doesn't suck the battery empty within a day.
That said, I typically get 2 full days out of my Desire with 4 different email accounts, weather, Twitter and 2 CALDAV agendas syncing. The two guys at work who have the iPhone 4 get about the same out of it, but they have less stuff syncing, so yeah, this battery life is quite typical for smartphones.
Waargh's comment of 3 hours is also bullshit, as is his claim of just 512 megs per app. That has changed with Froyo, as you can now store apps on the SD card - and if you're forced to use an older Android version you can always root and use apps2sd. Way to try and bash Android with nothing to back it up there mate.
He does have a point that there aren't as many "AAA" titles on Android yet, but that's starting to change. Keep in mind that Android is still a younger platform; it's barely 2 years old, where the first iOS is more than 3.5 years old.
Oh, and $800 1GHz CPU over the top you say? I was considering the iPhone 4 until I saw its price. €850 for the iPhone 4 versus €450 for my Desire (this was 6 months ago). That's $600 and $1100 for you right there. Even now the most expensive Android phone (Desire HD, about €500) is still cheaper than the cheapest iPhone 4 (€650) - and here in NL contract prices go up with more expensive devices, so fuck that.
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sTo0z
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| Posted: Tue, 28th Dec 2010 17:35 Post subject: |
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| pwerelds wrote: | | Oh, and $800 1GHz CPU over the top you say? I was considering the iPhone 4 until I saw its price. €850 for the iPhone 4 versus €450 for my Desire (this was 6 months ago). That's $600 and $1100 for you right there. Even now the most expensive Android phone (Desire HD, about €500) is still cheaper than the cheapest iPhone 4 (€650) - and here in NL contract prices go up with more expensive devices, so fuck that. |
What the fuck is with people around here buying outside their upgrade periods? I would never buy a phone outside my eligibility zone, paid $200 for brand new iPhone 4, so goddamn simple. |
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Saner
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| Posted: Tue, 28th Dec 2010 17:51 Post subject: |
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| sTo0z wrote: | | pwerelds wrote: | | Oh, and $800 1GHz CPU over the top you say? I was considering the iPhone 4 until I saw its price. €850 for the iPhone 4 versus €450 for my Desire (this was 6 months ago). That's $600 and $1100 for you right there. Even now the most expensive Android phone (Desire HD, about €500) is still cheaper than the cheapest iPhone 4 (€650) - and here in NL contract prices go up with more expensive devices, so fuck that. |
What the fuck is with people around here buying outside their upgrade periods? I would never buy a phone outside my eligibility zone, paid $200 for brand new iPhone 4, so goddamn simple. |
and I got my DesireHD for free (+ contract of course)
So it still works out stupidly expensive to get a iPhone.
| ragnarus wrote: |
I saw things like that in here and in other "woman problems" topics so...... Am I the only one that thinks some authorities needs to be alerted about Saner and him possibly being a rapist and/or kidnapper ? |
Saner is not being serious. Unless its the subject of Santa! |
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Waargh
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| Posted: Tue, 28th Dec 2010 18:11 Post subject: |
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| pwerelds wrote: | | Waargh's comment of 3 hours is also bullshit, as is his claim of just 512 megs per app. That has changed with Froyo, as you can now store apps on the SD card - and if you're forced to use an older Android version you can always root and use apps2sd. Way to try and bash Android with nothing to back it up there mate. |
Waargh's bullshit comment meant this:
- 3 hours of intensive usage. fire up any game and/or stay in Skype at the same time via 3G or wifi and you're done
- Froyo ok, ok, finally after 2 years we can install shit to SD. wohoo. WM had it since 2001/
- root & app2sd so now you have to pay hundreds of bucks or euro for a phone and then become a PC power user to enjoy it? dude, even I (using computers since 1989) looked 2 seconds at the app2sd instructions and said 'fuck it'. in a commercial product a feature can be considered present if it's there out-of-the-box or can be activated in 2 steps by a housewife. all the rest is bullshit
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Saner
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| Posted: Tue, 28th Dec 2010 18:16 Post subject: |
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You can pick faults with iOS, Android, Symbian etc...
End of the day they all have their faults.
| ragnarus wrote: |
I saw things like that in here and in other "woman problems" topics so...... Am I the only one that thinks some authorities needs to be alerted about Saner and him possibly being a rapist and/or kidnapper ? |
Saner is not being serious. Unless its the subject of Santa!
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LeoNatan
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| Waargh wrote: | | - 3 hours of intensive usage. fire up any game and/or stay in Skype at the same time via 3G or wifi and you're done |
On the iFag 4 I played Infinity Blade for more than 3 hours straight, and figured "hm, this must have brought the batter to its knees and I have a few mins left". Then I go to home and I see it's still almost full.
Actually, surfing the net on wifi is more battery demanding than playing UE3 games or watching 720p videos. 
| Waargh wrote: | | - root & app2sd so now you have to pay hundreds of bucks or euro for a phone and then become a PC power user to enjoy it? dude, even I (using computers since 1989) looked 2 seconds at the app2sd instructions and said 'fuck it'. in a commercial product a feature can be considered present if it's there out-of-the-box or can be activated in 2 steps by a housewife. all the rest is bullshit |
The first thing I did after jailbreaking was to install bash, and all my unix commands. You have to really be a moron to be a "power user" and artificially limit your brain to only  functionality because Apple or Google or HTC or Motorola decided you should only buy through their crap and support fucking copyrights. |
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Werelds
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| Waargh wrote: | | - 3 hours of intensive usage. fire up any game and/or stay in Skype at the same time via 3G or wifi and you're done |
Oh yeah, because an iPhone 4 will surely last the entire day when you do that
Froyo actually came out 7 months ago, 13 months after 1.5 (which was the first version actually used). If you want to be really picky, that's 1.5 years after the first public release. WM was also around for much longer than that before it got to do that.
And you consider rooting hard and that doesn't count anyway? Well then fuck me, by that standard iOS is a fantastic piece of shit, otherwise there would be no need to jailbreak. It took Apple 3 years to realise people might want to change their goddamn wallpaper without having to Jailbreak. Bravo.
And if you really have been using computers since 1989 and you found the instructions hard, I get why you like Apple. Nothing wrong with that, but don't go around discrediting other systems because of that.
| sTo0z wrote: | | What the fuck is with people around here buying outside their upgrade periods? I would never buy a phone outside my eligibility zone, paid $200 for brand new iPhone 4, so goddamn simple. |
My phone broke so I had to get a new one, but even within the upgrade period you either end up with a much higher monthly fee or a much higher one-time fee. Right now I can probably get a Desire HD for free @ €25/month or an iPhone 4 for €99 @ €40 / month - same call minutes, same data plan, just a different phone. Can't check the exact prices because I've still got 10 months left (I can upgrade 9 months ahead of time), but it'll be around that.
Don't get me wrong guys, the iPhone 4 and iOS are both quite fine, but they're not the holy grail some people set it out to be, and for me personally Android is better in fact, because even a jailbroken iPhone does not give me the flexibility I get with an unrooted droid. If you don't want to have to think about anything, then by all means, go for the iPhone.
Edit: God you're thick. Seriously, using computers since 1989? What computers exactly? Because rooting does not require anything more complex than being able to remember the friggin DOS commands.
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sTo0z
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| pwerelds wrote: | | ...and for me personally Android is better in fact, because even a jailbroken iPhone does not give me the flexibility I get with an unrooted droid. If you don't want to have to think about anything, then by all means, go for the iPhone. |
Not trolling, or stirring trouble, this is a legitimate interest in what you're saying here. What, EXACTLY, do you mean here? Give me a SPECIFIC function/example of something that backs up this statement.
Serious question, for real. |
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| pwerelds wrote: | | Don't get me wrong guys, the iPhone 4 and iOS are both quite fine, but they're not the holy grail some people set it out to be, and for me personally Android is better in fact, because even a jailbroken iPhone does not give me the flexibility I get with an unrooted droid. If you don't want to have to think about anything, then by all means, go for the iPhone. |
Like what? You can actually do quite everything, it's quite a capable BSD/Darwin unix machine. |
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Waargh
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| pwerelds wrote: | | Edit: God you're thick. Seriously, using computers since 1989? What computers exactly? Because rooting does not require anything more complex than being able to remember the friggin DOS commands. |
I'm thick but you can't read. I was talking about apps2sd installation.
Anyway if that can be considered easy and quick (!) for a generic user... :
 Spoiler: | | Quote: | PROCEED WITH CAUTION - I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE IF YOU BRICK / RUIN YOUR PHONE IN ANY WAY
Preparing your Phone to get Root
- BEFORE ATTEMPTING THIS PROCESS I WOULD HAVE A FULLY CHARGED BATTERY / THE PHONE PLUGGED INTO A POWER SOURCE -
1 Format your phone's SD card to FAT32 mode:
Hook your phone up to your computer using a USB cable & then wait for the notification to show up in your title bar of your phone.
Click the notification, & then click "Mount".
A new removable disk should show up on your computer. Right click it & select Format, & select FAT32 as the file system type.
2 Download & unzip the RC29 image file, unzip the file & copy the "DREAIMG.nbh" file to the root of your SD card. Confirm the name of the file is exactly this: DREAIMG.nbh
Location of the RC29 Image: http://android-roms.googlecode.com/files/DREAIMG-RC29.zip
3 Turn the device power off.
4 Hold Camera button, & press Power button to entry bootloader mode.
You should see a gray/white screen with instructions to flash your phone with the update on your SD card. If you don't see that, make sure you followed the instructions properly.
5 As per the on-screen instructions, press the Power button to start the upgrade process.
DURING THIS PROCESS DO NOT DO ANYTHING TO INTERRUPT THE PROCESS!
6 After the upgrade is finished, restart the phone (you can restart by pressing Home+Back)
- You have now successfully downgraded your phone which will allow you to gain root access -
Rooting your Phone
- On RC29 phones & lower, anything you type into your keyboard is also being run in a hidden console with root permissions. -
To get root access, do the following:
1 Download recovery.img & copy it to your SD card (see the previous instructions on how to copy from your computer to your Phone's SD card). Confirm file is named "recovery.img"
Location of the recovery.img: http://android-roms.googlecode.com/files/recovery.img
2 Download the Hard SPL & copy the zip file to the SD card. Rename this file to "update.zip".
Location of the Hard SPL: http://android-roms.googlecode.com/files/splhard1_update_signed.zip
3 Make sure both files are on the root of your SD card.
4 Restart your phone normally & wait for your phone to start up fully & show the home screen.
5 After your phone starts up, hit the enter key twice, type "telnetd" & press enter. (Yes, it will start up a contact search, don't worry. Just type it.)(You can also use Terminal to enter these cmds)
6 Turn on your WiFi Radio & connect to your Wireless Network, once connected ... Download & install an Application from the Market "Telnet" & connect to localhost.
7 If you connect successfully, you will have a root prompt "#".
8 Type the following into Telnet (these commands will give you root access easier in the future):
(The above changes the /system partition from read only to read/write)
mount -o rw,remount -t yaffs2 /dev/block/mtdblock3 /system
cd /sdcard
flash_image recovery recovery.img
cat recovery.img > /system/recovery.img
If your phone hangs a second wipe may be needed
- You now have root - Cool
Installed the Hard SPL
This will allow you to apply flash images from other regions (like UK on US phones, & vice versa), create full backups of your phone, install the latest build from the Android source, & usually resurrect your phone if it is "bricked".
1 Power off your phone.
2 Press & hold Home & then press Power to boot up into recovery mode.
3 You will now enter recovery mode. You should see an exclamation.
4 If you do not see a menu / text on screen, press ALT-L to show the menu.
5 Press ALT-S to apply the update from the SD card.
6 After the update is complete, hold Home & press Back to restart.
- You've now applied the Hard SPL to your phone - Shocked
Installing the Latest Custom ROM
1 Download the build.
2 Rename it to "update.zip".
3 Copy it to the root of your phone's SD card.
4 Turn your phone off.
5 Start up in recovery mode by holding Home & pressing Power.
6 Press ALT-W to wipe your device. (You need to do this, or the device may hang during startup)
7 Press ALT-S to apply the update.
Latest Build Table
Builds Notes Link
JF's RC33 v1.42 USA T-Mobile Release Candidate, Root, Multi-Touch & Busybox http://android-roms.googlecode.com/files/JFv1.42_RC33.zip
JF's ADP 1.1 v1.43 (Holiday) Android Dev Phone 1 Holiday Release, Root, Multi-Touch & Busybox http://jf.odiness.com/v1.43/JFv1.43_Holiday.zip
JF's RC9 v1.43 UK Release Candidate, Root, Multi-Touch & Busybox http://jf.odiness.com/v1.43/JFv1.43_RC9.zip
haykuro's v5.0.2 Google (Cupcake) Root, Busybox, Fancy Animations http://android-roms.googlecode.com/files/haykuro_502G.zip
haykuro's v5.0.2 Google (Cupcake) A2SD Root, Busybox, Fancy Animations, Apps 2 SD http://sharebee.com/b421bf8f
haykuro's v5.0.2 r5 HTC (Cupcake) Busybox, Prettiest Build, HTC VK http://android-roms.googlecode.com/files/haykuro_502Hr5.zip
haykuro's v5.0.2 r5 HTC (Cupcake) A2SD Busybox, Prettiest Build, HTC VK, Apps 2 SD http://sharebee.com/43ba3492
haykuro's ADP 1.5 r3 (Cupcake) Root, Busybox, Multi-Touch http://android-roms.googlecode.com/files/Hv1.5r3-signed.zip
haykuro's ADP 1.5 r3 (Cupcake) A2SD Root, Busybox, Multi-Touch, Apps 2 SD http://www.droiddeveloper.com/hrbuilds/Hv1.5r3-a2sd-signed.zip
TheDudes v1.1 Lite (Cupcake) Root, Busybox, AOSP + ADP1.5, No 3rd Party or Dev Apps http://android-roms.googlecode.com/files/TheDudesCupcake1.1.lite-signed.zip
TheDudes v1.1 Full (Cupcake) A2SD Root, Busybox, AOSP + ADP1.5, Apps 2 SD, 3rd Party or Dev Apps, Manup Blue Theme http://android-roms.googlecode.com/files/TheDudesCupcake1.1.full-signed.zip
JF v1.51 CRB43 ADP (Cupcake) A2SD Root, Busybox, ADP1.5, Apps 2 SD http://android-roms.googlecode.com/files/JFv1.51_CRB43-ADP.zip
JF v1.51 CRB43 US (Cupcake) A2SD Root, Busybox, USA T-Mobile Release 1.5, Apps 2 SD http://android-roms.googlecode.com/files/JFv1.51_CRB43-US.zip
haykuro's 6.0HTC r1 A2SD Root, Busybox, ADP1.5, Apps 2 SD, Requires Radio 2.22.19.26I & SPL 1.33.2005 http://android-roms.googlecode.com/files/haykuro_6.0r1-signed.zip
If installing the haykuro 6.0HTC r1 Build you must first install the Radio 2.22.19.26I & then the SPL 1.33.2005.
I must caution you because at this time the process to flash the new SPL has caused some people to brick their phones to the point that it is unrecoverable by any means
If you go from the RC29 Image to a Cupcake Build you will need to flash the JF Recovery
Location: http://android-roms.googlecode.com/files/JFv1.43_Recovery.zip
Put file on root of card, renamed to "update.zip"
Reboot into Recovery & apply ALT+S
All builds are fully functional, some applications from the market may crash on you if they are not compatible with the 1.5 firmware.
- WHEN SWITHCING BETWEEN DIFFERENT BRANCHES (I.E. SWITHCING FROM HAYKURO'S 502G TO JF's v1.51 CRB43 US) YOU WILL NEED TO WIPE (ALT+W FROM THE RECOVERY MENU) THE PHONE PRIOR TO APPLYING THE UPDATE. -
- IF YOU ARE JUST UPDATING THE SAME BUILD (I.E. UPGRADING FROM TheDudes v1.0 TO TheDudes v1.1) YOU DO NOT NEED TO DO A WIPE PRIOR TO APPLYING THE UPDATE. -
For the most part all of these builds are very similar, the HTC Branch has a different virtual keyboard & also is a bit prettier some would say.
The other Google / ADP builds are almost identical with the exception to the haykuro's Google Branch that has a different animation when u rotate the phone.
The initial boot after this change may take a bit longer this is ok allow it some additional time to boot & load the new build.
Next you will want to confirm your Radio Baseband.
To Confirm this Press Menu - Settings - About Phone - Scroll down till you see Baseband version
Compare the Basband value to the table below to see if you are using the correct radio for your build or if you need to update.
To update the Radio:
1 Download the Radio zip.
2 Rename it to "update.zip".
3 Copy it to the root of your phone's SD card.
4 Turn your phone off.
5 Start up in recovery mode by holding Home & pressing Power.
6 Press ALT-S to apply the update.
7 Once the update is applied press Home+Back to reboot the phone. The Phone will start to boot up & then continue applying the update. Once this is completed the Recovery menu will ask you for the second time to reboot the phone via Home+Back
Once this is done double check the Baseband has been updated properly via:
Press Menu - Settings - About Phone - Scroll down till you see Baseband version, you should see the radio version on this row if not you will need to update the Radio again.
Builds Radio Link
JF's RC33 v1.42
JF's ADP 1.1 v1.43 (Holiday)
JF's RC9 v1.43
1.22.14.11
http://android-roms.googlecode.com/files/Radio_Dream_RC33_1_22_14_11.zip
Builds Radio Link
haykuro's v5.0.2 Google (Cupcake)
haykuro's v5.0.2 Google (Cupcake) A2SD
haykuro's v5.0.2 r5 HTC (Cupcake)
haykuro's v5.0.2 r5 HTC (Cupcake) A2SD
2.22.19.23
http://android-roms.googlecode.com/files/Radio_Sapphire_2_22_19_23.zip
Builds Radio Link
haykuro's ADP 1.5 r3 (Cupcake)
haykuro's ADP 1.5 r3 (Cupcake) A2SD
TheDudes v1.1 Lite (Cupcake)
TheDudes v1.1 Full (Cupcake)
JF v1.51 CRB43 ADP (Cupcake) A2SD
JF v1.51 CRB43 US (Cupcake) A2SD
haykuro's 6.0HTC r1 A2SD
2.22.19.26I
http://android-roms.googlecode.com/files/ota-radio-2_22_19_26I.zip
At this point you should perform a NANDROID backup
1 Turn your phone off.
2 Hold Home, press Power button to boot into Recovery Mode
3 Press ALT+B to start the backup.
4 Once the backup has completed press Home+Back
Once your phone reboots & loads the OS, you should copy these files to your PC in case you need to recover your phone
1 Mount your SDCard to your PC
2 On your SDCard change to the nandroid/HT840GZ30985
3 Inside this folder you will see another folder the first 8 digits of this folder name is the date it was created in the YYYYMMDD format & the last four are the time.
4 Copy this entire folder to your PC & save it. As you make more backups to your phone repeat this process. I tend to append the build the backup is of i.e. 20090429-0421_ADP_Hv15_r2 So I know this build is the ADP build by haykuro version 2.
- Restore Phone Via NANDROID Backup & Fastboot -
So now you've just backed up your phone & want to know how in the hell do I recover my phone with these backups I'm creating.
Things you will need
Android SDK: http://developer.android.com/sdk/download.html?v=android-sdk-windows-1.5_r1.zip
Fastboot Windows Binary: http://android-roms.googlecode.com/files/fastboot-win32.zip
Android USB Drivers: http://android-roms.googlecode.com/files/android_usb_windows.zip
Installing the SDK (http://developer.android.com/sdk/1.5_r1/installing.html):
Download the Android SDK (link above) extract the files to a location on your PC i.e. C:\sdk
Next On Windows, right-click on My Computer, & select Properties. Under the Advanced tab, hit the Environment Variables button, & in the dialog that comes up, double-click on Path (under System Variables). Add the full path to the tools/ directory to the path.
So using the example from above the path you would be adding is c:\sdk\tools
- Note that, if you update your SDK in the future, you should remember to update your PATH settings to point to the new location, if different. -
-Once the SDK is extracted & the Environment Variables updated
-Download the Fastboot Windows Binary & extract it in the same folder as adb. So using the same example you will place the files in the c:\sdk\tools
-Reboot your phone
-Turn your phone on & hold both Camera+Power
-You should now see a white screen with three androids on skateboards (If you do not see this STOP, repeat the Hard SPL Installation above)
-Take out the usb cable & connect it to your phone, now press the back key on the phone.
-In the middle of the screen your phone should now say FASTBOOT, if it says SERIAL keep pressing back on the phone till you see FASTBOOT
-If it asks you to install drivers, then use the usb drivers above.
-If it doesn't ask you to install a driver, you need to figure out if the correct driver is loaded already.
-Right click on My Computer, & click Manage, then go to the device manager
-If you see an "ADB Interface" category at/near the top, with "HTC Dream" under it, then you're good to go. Fastboot should be working for you.
-If you don't see an "ADB Interface" category, then it's likely that windows loaded the USB Mass Storage driver for it automatically.
-In the device manager, go down to "Universal Serial Bus Controllers", & see if you have at least one "USB Mass Storage device". If you have multiple ones, you'll need to go through each to find the correct one.
-To find the correct one, right click on the USB Mass Storage device & click Properties.
-Go to the Details tab.
-In the combo box at the top that says "Device Instance Id", bring up the pull down & choose "Compatible Ids".
-If that is the correct device, then you will see 3 entries:
USB\Class_ff&SubClass_42&Prot_03
USB\Class_ff&SubClass_42
USB\Class_ff
Once you find the correct device, go to the driver tab, & click "Update Driver". Choose "No, not this time", then "Install from a list or specific location", then "Don't search, I will choose the driver to install", & then choose the same usb driver that you used to get adb to work.
-Once you have completed this Open a Cmd Prompt (Windows Key+R, then cmd)
-fastboot devices
It should list a device in the list, if it does you are fine to flash images to your phone if not please repeat the process above. You may have to delete the android phone under the device manager.
From the NANDROID Backup you will only need to flash three files:
-data.img
-system.img
-boot.img
Copy the above three files to the directory on your Cmd Prompt or change directories through the Cmd Prompt to the location of the nandroid files either way will work.
Once the files are in the same directory that Cmd Prompt is accessing then type each cmd below followed by enter. The cmd will send & then flash the image.
fastboot flash boot boot.img
fastboot flash system system.img
fastboot flash userdata data.img
fastboot reboot
Your phone will reboot into the OS & your back to the image you just flashed!
= Setting up your phone to work with Apps 2 SD (A2SD) =
The SDcard will need two partitions, the first Fat / Fat32 & the second Ext2
For the Ext2 partition I wouldn't go higher than 1.5GB cuz you may run into some issues. I was staying around the 500MB / 750MB area & it was working nice. As all the guides I've read state not to exceed the 1.5GB Marker.
After you have both partitions setup you can install the OS, then it's just a matter of setting up the symlinks & moving the apps over / installing new ones.
Now remember it may be best to do a wipe prior to installing this build if you aren't already on the same A2SD Build already.
Once the OS is installed first thing I would do is from a terminal on the phone / ADB Shell:
su
busybox df -h
If you don't see a row that has /system/sd on it then the process didn't pick up your SDCard. I'd suggest you to re-do the process.
Next if you didn't perform a wipe we'll move the data over, run these cmds either via terminal / adb shell:
busybox cp -a /data/app /system/sd/
busybox cp -a /data/dalvik-cache /system/sd/ (optional)
busybox cp -a /data/data /system/sd/ (optional)
The last two cmds here are optional (they are to move the cache for each app) & some have reported issues when copying these over so if you are having issues I would leave these on the /data partition.
1 Once your done with the above, power off your phone
2 Press & hold the Home Button & press Power to boot into Recovery Mode
3 Once the recovery menu opens & it's showing you JF's custom menu press ALT+X to enter the Recovery Terminal.
4 Press enter & a prompt should come up with a "#".
Next enter these cmds:
mount data
rm -rf /data/app
ln -s /system/sd/app /data/app
rm -rf /data/data (optional)
ln -s /system/sd/data /data/data (optional)
rm -rf /data/dalvik-cache (optional)
ln -s /system/sd/dalvik-cache /data/dalvik-cache (optional)
reboot
Again the 4-7 cmds are optional & for the cache only of an app, so if you moved the cache over in the above cmds then on this section you will run them as well.
You must run the optional cmds in both sections for them to work, or run them in neither!
During the reboot process your phone might take a while at the android screen since it has to populate the apps tray. If it lasts >5-10 minutes then something likely went wrong. Make sure you did all the steps correctly & if you did try the steps in the recovery terminal section of this tutorial again. If it still doesn't work, post here & we'll try to get it sorted out. That aside, enjoy having your apps on SD card!
Also I wouldn't suggest you moving the /data/app-private
= UNROOT YOUR PHONE / PLACE PHONE BACK TO STOCK =
1 Download the DREAIMG.nbh: http://android-roms.googlecode.com/files/DREAIMG-RC29.zip
2 Place "DREAIMG.nbh" on the root of your SD card.
3 Turn your phone off.
4 Start up in bootloader mode by holding Camera & pressing Power.
5 Hit power button to start the update.
6 Once the install completes hit action(trackball down) & your phone will reboot.
- You now have the stock RC29 firmware, now it will update on it's own in a bit -
Quick Tips
Once you have the SDK setup you can use reboot your phone into both the recovery menu & the bootloader (Hard SPL) from the cmd prompt of the PC
-To reboot into Recovery
adb shell reboot recovery
-To reboot into bootloader
adb shell reboot bootloader
Before applying any update / making any changes to your phone I would suggest you ALWAYS do a NANDROID backup prior to making sure you will always have a way to recover your phone in case something dire happens.
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| sTo0z wrote: | Not trolling, or stirring trouble, this is a legitimate interest in what you're saying here. What, EXACTLY, do you mean here? Give me a SPECIFIC function/example of something that backs up this statement.
Serious question, for real. |
And this
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Werelds
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| sTo0z wrote: | | Not trolling, or stirring trouble, this is a legitimate interest in what you're saying here. What, EXACTLY, do you mean here? Give me a SPECIFIC function/example of something that backs up this statement. |
Oh I don't know, how about widgets just for starters? I just swipe from left to right to see my mail (all 4 accounts in a single box), to the other side to see my agenda, and on the center home screen I've got the weather and switches to quickly toggle wifi, vibrate/ring mode etcetera.
Now, I haven't spent days with one and I don't make it a habit to read up on every detail on a device I most likely will never own, but even when Jailbroken there aren't any replacement mail apps am I right? I believe the standard mail app still doesn't store more than 200 messages? Pretty annoying for me with my 4 accounts. Same goes for mail search, it only checks headers now I believe? I also couldn't find an option to automatically lock it?
I'm pretty sure there's apps for jailbroken phones for the latter 2 (at least I bloody hope so), but the widgets alone are priceless to me. I actually quite rarely open a fullblown app, the only apps I really open are the browser and games
Just a few things that popped into mind, not to mention the fact that I really dislike Apple's attitude towards developers. And yeah, installing apps2sd requires a bit more work than Jailbreaking does nowadays, but like I said, it's in Froyo now. And even then, all you have to do is enter some commands in a terminal, which you can copy/paste.
Again, it's a fine phone, nothing wrong with it. I just don't use my phone as a gaming device, and that's the only area where I really see the iPhone being quite a bit ahead of Android, but again that's because Android is still ridiculously young.
Now one of you tell me why I should pay €15/month extra for 2 years for the same plan I have now, on top of the one-time fee which is probably €99 for an iPhone? What does that give me that I don't get from a droid phone?
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The satisfaction of owning an Apple product? 
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| pwerelds wrote: | | an iPhone 4 for €99 @ €40 / month |
Seriously, get a new provider.
The Iphone 4 costs 629€ NEW from Apple itself. Go to ebay, and you can find hundreds of unopened packages for under 600€ from people who got it with a contract and don't want it.
Of course the Iphone is more expensive than the other phones, and it is a bit overpriced. But the difference is nowhere near ridiculous, and I bet HTC or any other manufacturer would charge the same amount just if they could.
But as it stands, Andriod phones HAVE to be cheaper than Iphones, or the majority of people would just buy an Iphone instead if it was the same price.
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| pwerelds wrote: | | Again, it's a fine phone, nothing wrong with it. I just don't use my phone as a gaming device, and that's the only area where I really see the iPhone being quite a bit ahead of Android, but again that's because Android is still ridiculously young. |
Look at the app store ... i tried a HTC Desire and the marketplace failed ( for me at least ).
i own a iphone 4, i used the following apps & i didn'f found a eq. app on droid:
- Reeder ( IMO the best rss reader! )
- TomTom ( offline navigation! Australia, USA, Europe )
- Awesome Notes ( To-Do List, with style )
- iOutBank Pro ( mobile banking )
- iXpenseIt ( tracks your cost, great for travel with mates to track & share costs ( e.g. fuel etc.pp. )
- mobiles games
just google the apps above & show me similar apps on droid with the same "high quality" look'n'feel. it's a small selection of apps ... i know, but ...
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Just a side note: Be careful with ioutbank. They revealed some serious security problems with it a few weeks ago. And I don't think those were fixed yet. I'd stay away from that app!
“The only way to deal with an unfree world is to become so absolutely free that your very existence is an act of rebellion.”
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