Restarting PC does not work - Bios loads - then black screen
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todd72173




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PostPosted: Tue, 13th Jan 2009 00:23    Post subject: Restarting PC does not work - Bios loads - then black screen
When I click restart while in windows XP, shutsdown, bios clears, but then stops. Just black screen, no XP logo. I have to hold down power button. Shut off completely, then turn back on and xp boots ok.

I already did:
Updated bios (Abit IP-35E mob)
Reinstalled windows
Changed hard drives
Swapped out all extra cards connected

Cant think of anything else...
Any ideas?

Thanks!
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gingerninjaaaaaa
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PostPosted: Tue, 13th Jan 2009 04:47    Post subject:
Have you done a full virus scan?
Try this, it's a good scanner r for trojans etc.
http://www.malwarebytes.org/
Updatee it once you've downloaded n installed then scan you're computer.
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nouseforaname
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PostPosted: Tue, 13th Jan 2009 04:59    Post subject:
gingerninjaaaaaa wrote:
Have you done a full virus scan?
Try this, it's a good scanner r for trojans etc.
http://www.malwarebytes.org/
Updatee it once you've downloaded n installed then scan you're computer.


re-installed windows = no viruses = hardware problem Wink


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gingerninjaaaaaa
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PostPosted: Tue, 13th Jan 2009 05:01    Post subject:
nouseforaname wrote:
gingerninjaaaaaa wrote:
Have you done a full virus scan?
Try this, it's a good scanner r for trojans etc.
http://www.malwarebytes.org/
Updatee it once you've downloaded n installed then scan you're computer.


re-installed windows = no viruses = hardware problem Wink

What nouseforaname said Smile
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nouseforaname
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PostPosted: Tue, 13th Jan 2009 05:03    Post subject:
^^ lol, yeah but who the fuck knows what the problem is Razz


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swingman




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PostPosted: Tue, 13th Jan 2009 13:39    Post subject:
Had a similar problem recently where the computer would post and get to bios but then it was hit and miss. Mostly it would get hung up but sometimes it would manage to get to windows. Thought it was the video card dying on me but on a hunch swapped out the psu to eliminate that suspect. Turned out to be the power supply that was defective.
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PostPosted: Tue, 13th Jan 2009 13:41    Post subject:
swingman wrote:
Had a similar problem recently where the computer would post and get to bios but then it was hit and miss. Mostly it would get hung up but sometimes it would manage to get to windows. Thought it was the video card dying on me but on a hunch swapped out the psu to eliminate that suspect. Turned out to be the power supply that was defective.


what psu did you have?


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swingman




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PostPosted: Tue, 13th Jan 2009 14:09    Post subject:
A no-brand '350W' thing but it's not a high-end computer so it doesn't need a big psu. Replaced it with a similar unit from an old pc I have lying around for parts and considering the previous one lasted four years, I think I am good for another four. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue, 13th Jan 2009 14:14    Post subject:
swingman wrote:
A no-brand '350W' thing but it's not a high-end computer so it doesn't need a big psu. Replaced it with a similar unit from an old pc I have lying around for parts and considering the previous one lasted four years, I think I am good for another four. Very Happy


ah ok Smile


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todd72173




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PostPosted: Tue, 13th Jan 2009 20:40    Post subject:
I must have formatted and re-installed windows xp about 10x already. I run NOD32 and no viruses..

I think the power supply could be at fault. I will take my other power supply (Ultra X-Connect 500w ULT31560) and test it with this rig with issues. Maybe thats it..
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PostPosted: Wed, 14th Jan 2009 12:45    Post subject:
Wouldnt your comp not start at all if it was the PSU? I dunno bout these things thats why i read these threads so I can ask questions and learn.

And sometimes, rarely, I know the solution...but not often lol Smile


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PostPosted: Wed, 14th Jan 2009 13:46    Post subject:
Nah, if one of the rails of the PSU is weak, it would still run but wouldn't have enough power to perform certain tasks. It'd be like having a shitty psu for a high end video card. It'd work, but itd crash often.


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PostPosted: Wed, 14th Jan 2009 14:27    Post subject:
Ah gotcha Phlux Smile ty for explaining


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todd72173




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PostPosted: Thu, 15th Jan 2009 04:30    Post subject:
Replaced PSU and Hard Drive. It still does same thing. PSU I am using now is not new. So could be both are going bad. I dont know. Both are less than a year old and barely used. It does restart sometimes, always starts from a cold boot. Perhaps something to do with the electricity from home as we did have some circuits blow. I dont have a battert backup on this rig. Well, thanks for all your help..


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todd72173




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PostPosted: Thu, 15th Jan 2009 21:27    Post subject:
Just ordered a brand new power supply (no more swapping out old ones)

Let me know if you think this will work:
OCZ500SXS 500W

My rig:
E6650 DuoCore, 8800GT, 3 SATA HD's, 1 IDE HD, 1 IDE DVD.
I dont think thats too demanding.


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swingman




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PostPosted: Fri, 16th Jan 2009 00:53    Post subject:
Don't know about the specific psu but I hope that it does the trick because till now you don't know if it was the psu that was the culprit. If it turns out to be the case then don't keep the defective psus around unless you collect them for parts or something. Very Happy

Although the fact that the computer always boots fine from a cold start suggests a temp/overheating issue. Just checked your mobo and it's all passive heatsinks except for cpu ofcourse. It's always the same hit and miss (swap this, swap that) with hardware. Sad I considered buying one of those pci hardware diagnostic cards but I don't know the range of problems that they are able to detect.
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todd72173




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PostPosted: Sat, 17th Jan 2009 05:39    Post subject:
Actually, my rig does also lock up on cold boots too. Not often, but does. It also booted up and did not find one of my hard drives. Normally thats a sign the PSU is failing.

I learned alot about psu's since my issue. First, I realized the PSU I have been using was rated one of the worst brands -Ultra. Then, I found out using Modular PSU (those that you can detach cables) are bad too - causes more resistant. Well, my Ultra X-connect is modular.
I found this site that calculates what your rig will use in watts my was 318W.
http://www.extreme.outervision.com/psucalculatorlite.jsp

So, on Tuesday, Ill get the OCZ PSU..Ill update here on my findings..


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todd72173




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PostPosted: Tue, 20th Jan 2009 23:51    Post subject:
It was Powersupply! My new OCZ just came in, popped it in, and works great! No more stalling out on Bios. My ULTRA power supply is in the garbage. Never had a real power supply before until this one. Wont take them for granted anymore.

I also replaced WD 640GB HD too. So I had two issues. Both HD and PS are now working great! Such a great feeling when you get your rig back up and running..

Thanks for all your help!
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