Hired Guns: The Jagged Edge
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acerola




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PostPosted: Tue, 4th Nov 2008 02:20    Post subject: Hired Guns: The Jagged Edge
Formerly known as JAZZ: Hired Guns
Formerly known as Jagged Alliance 3D (not Jagged Alliance 3)

Hired Guns: The Jagged Edge is a turn-based strategy that puts you command of a squad of specialists for hire in the genre’s biggest game-world yet: the African country Diamond Coast. Found in one of the world’s darkest corners, Diamond Coast is a playground for the cruel and corrupt, each with their own agenda. Choose your friends wisely and buy an army of ruthless mercenaries to unleash mayhem on the African countryside. Choose jobs from different factions and complete them for cash to upgrade weapons and hire more elite soldiers of fortune.

Genre: Strategy
Exclusively on PC
Release Date: December 31, 2008

http://pc.ign.com/objects/688/688143.html

Finally the English translation is coming. Hope it's better than Brigade e5.
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hurley




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PostPosted: Tue, 4th Nov 2008 10:37    Post subject:
finally , took them time. I hope it does improve on gfx while keeping the gameplay.
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Saddlefall




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PostPosted: Tue, 4th Nov 2008 12:32    Post subject:
Holy shit! I though this game had died or something. Good to see it didn't. Hopefully it will be good, as Jagged Alliance 2 is awesome.
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dsergei




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PostPosted: Tue, 4th Nov 2008 12:54    Post subject:
This game is really really REALLY bad.
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KeyserSoeze




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PostPosted: Tue, 4th Nov 2008 15:16    Post subject:
dsergei wrote:
This game is really really REALLY bad.


How come?

I think E5 was to stiff. But this looks a bit better.
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Joe Potato




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PostPosted: Tue, 4th Nov 2008 15:38    Post subject:
the secuel of brigade E5, 7.68, is coming too...


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SilverBlue




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PostPosted: Fri, 7th Nov 2008 19:26    Post subject:
The German version was released some time ago and the people who got it said it was full of bugs and other strange things like incredibly difficult and accurate AI throwing grenades at your feet from the other side of the map.

Hopefully the guys who are releasing the english version will get the devs to make some patches to fix these probs.

The game isnt as goodas JA2, not even by a mile but I will get it just because I need a turn based tactical gaming fix untill 7.62mm and JA3 come out...
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krackhead




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PostPosted: Fri, 7th Nov 2008 19:30    Post subject:
update for release date of the game, directly from publisher:

http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=1914768&mpage=2&key=

I quote: "we expect the game to release at the end of november", the game will be put in the coming soon section before that

@silverblue, expect 7.62 mm in 2009 and JA3 in 2010
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anonymoose




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PostPosted: Sat, 8th Nov 2008 07:56    Post subject:
Bit off topic, but everyone seems to like JA here: JA possibly still on way to DS. Apparently some time in march 2009 it might show its face, which would be good.

Mobile Jagged Alliance. I once tried playing Jagged Alliance on a 200mhz laptop I had laying around. It was good, but the touch pad would go absolutely insane after a while and fly around the screen randomly clicking places.

Could be a good time waster until the release of JA3, whenever that might be.
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PostPosted: Sat, 8th Nov 2008 21:11    Post subject:
anonymoose wrote:
Bit off topic, but everyone seems to like JA here: JA possibly still on way to DS. Apparently some time in march 2009 it might show its face, which would be good.

Mobile Jagged Alliance. I once tried playing Jagged Alliance on a 200mhz laptop I had laying around. It was good, but the touch pad would go absolutely insane after a while and fly around the screen randomly clicking places.

Could be a good time waster until the release of JA3, whenever that might be.


My source, the all-knowning and powerful crystal ball of release dates, says December 2012.

Seriously tho, I am looking forward to the DS release as well. Actually have been keeping tabs on this ever since I bought the thing a couple yrs back, always seemed like vaporware, but with screenshots now out looks like it might actually see the light of day. But yeah, a game like JA I think is absolutely perfect for any kind of mobile device, where addictive gameplay trumps graphics everytime.

And Jagged Alliance 2's gameplay even with its low-end graphics has still kept the crown of most addictive game, ever, for me at least. I've prolly sunk more hours into that game than all other games combined. Of course I played it when I had much more time for games but I still think that says a lot for a game with nailed-down mechanics vs. all the best graphics and newest hottest features that amaze you at first but don't hold your interest when the core gameplay is really not all that great.


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acerola




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PostPosted: Sun, 9th Nov 2008 01:38    Post subject:
Just played the demo. The original title says it all. It is just like JA2, but in 3D. Gotta love those Ruskies for such a remake.

Camera control is great, very similar to UFO:AS/AL. There is a "bird" mode where you see all the map from high above, and still control the mercs.

Several small bugs that don't affect gameplay. Some crashes too, but hopefully the full version is better.
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JBeckman
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PostPosted: Wed, 12th Nov 2008 16:52    Post subject:
http://dlh.net/cgi-bin/dp.cgi?lang=eng&cap=all&sort=date&count=25

Unsure about the game itself being out and available but a patch has been released.

EDIT: German changelog.
http://forum.dlh.net/thread;threadid__32083.html
(Google auto-translation makes it seems like it fixed a crash issue, improved the voice acting in a few places and lowered the difficulty when playing at the easiest difficulty level.)
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SilverBlue




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PostPosted: Thu, 13th Nov 2008 07:17    Post subject:
krackhead wrote:
@silverblue, expect 7.62 mm in 2009 and JA3 in 2010


I know, Its brilliant isnt it? Shocked
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Krokis




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PostPosted: Thu, 13th Nov 2008 08:16    Post subject:
Really looking forward to this game. played the demo and was hooked almost directly JA was one of my favorite game.. but did anyone encounter that the team easy got tired and laid on the ground? really enoying Smile
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damador.




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PostPosted: Thu, 13th Nov 2008 11:06    Post subject:
played it - polish version ( outs since 2 months )

on easy difficulty i got destroyed IN one turn by "granades out of nowhere"
AI is broken as hell - hope to get patch sooon


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SilverBlue




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PostPosted: Sat, 15th Nov 2008 08:39    Post subject:
Apparently the english version of the game will have tweaked difficulty so "grenades out of nowhere" doesnt take place.
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damador.




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PostPosted: Sat, 15th Nov 2008 09:31    Post subject:
SilverBlue wrote:
Apparently the english version of the game will have tweaked difficulty so "grenades out of nowhere" doesnt take place.


its balanced in latest patch ...
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rmask




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PostPosted: Sat, 15th Nov 2008 15:31    Post subject:
I have the original russian version

I must note that this game is a clone of JA (interface, mechanics, "story")
In its early state it was buggy, broken, unplayable game, but by now most bugs are patched and those left are solved by community made mods (russian only (maybe works with other languages).

With realism mods installed this game is almost as good as orginal JA 2

PS.
game uses Silent Storm engine
Protected by starforce (Baltic countries version, but I believe it is the same one as in Russia)

PPS.
Russian 7.62 version is also quite playable by now (althou I like JAZZ better)
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anonymoose




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PostPosted: Sat, 15th Nov 2008 16:07    Post subject:
From what I remember, it's a clone of JA because it was JA. It was being developed as a JA game with JA characters, story, mechanics etc., but when a couple of companies had a disagreement the game was dropped, so the developer removed all references to JA instead of scrapping the game.

Really? The Silent Storm engine? I love that game!
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upstart_69




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PostPosted: Sat, 15th Nov 2008 20:11    Post subject:
anonymoose wrote:
From what I remember, it's a clone of JA because it was JA. It was being developed as a JA game with JA characters, story, mechanics etc., but when a couple of companies had a disagreement the game was dropped, so the developer removed all references to JA instead of scrapping the game.

Really? The Silent Storm engine? I love that game!


Yeah Silent Storm was greatness. It is a pity that the modding tools were shit. The community could have done wonderful things with that engine. Sadly, the developers never even scratched the potential of it and instead came out with dreadful follow-ups. I keep hoping a 3rd party will come along and really update the engine and take advantage of it to come out with something to reinvigorate the TB squad tactical game. So far hasnt really happened, tho Crying or Very sad

Oh well. *Goes back to playing JA 1.13*



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SilverBlue




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PostPosted: Mon, 17th Nov 2008 07:25    Post subject:
JA3 is using the Silent Storm engine I believe. If we are really lucky, the devs will release some sort of tools to make editing possible, but it is unlikely..
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OchoBits




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PostPosted: Mon, 17th Nov 2008 17:46    Post subject:
Matrix Games to Publish Hired Guns: The Jagged Edge

Quote:
Matrix Games and GFI (www.gfi.su) are pleased to announce that Matrix Games will be bringing the highly anticipated tactical combat game Hired Guns: The Jagged Edge to the Matrix Games Online Store for its official online release in late November! With anticipation for Hired Guns steadily growing since it was praised as having everything the original [Jagged Alliance] has – and more,” gamers can expect to be hiring mercenaries, planning strategies and using combat tactics to overthrow (or help) African dictators and get rich in the process by late November.


So only a Digital download?
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hurley




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PostPosted: Mon, 17th Nov 2008 20:08    Post subject:
silent storm engine is aging a bit but its still the best 3d TBS engine ever.
in an alternate reality i would have hoped fallout 3 to use that engine... *sigh*
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acerola




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PostPosted: Tue, 2nd Dec 2008 22:07    Post subject:
The game is in stores right now.
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twobells
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PostPosted: Tue, 2nd Dec 2008 22:31    Post subject:
Is the game available as a digital download anywhere yet?

tb


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SilverBlue




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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Dec 2008 18:20    Post subject:
As a digital download? Check the Matrix website..
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damador.




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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Dec 2008 07:36    Post subject:
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BaronOfHell




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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Dec 2008 07:51    Post subject:
Is this game anywhere close to being as good as JA2? Or should I just stick to 1.13 until JA3 comes out or something?


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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Dec 2008 08:01    Post subject:
It's a pathetic clone released by GFI when they got dumped by Sir Tech. It has none of the JA depth and very simple game mechanics.

Maybe you've heard of chinese fake Nokia and Iphones sold on ebay? Well, that's a fake JA3.


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BaronOfHell




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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Dec 2008 08:08    Post subject:
Thanks for the quick reply, saved me the trouble of having to try it out for myself...


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