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[sYn]
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 Posted: Sun, 9th Nov 2008 02:30 Post subject: |
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Look for Core AVC install it but don't set it as your preferred decoder.
Download "Media Player Classic Home Cinema" (small app, no install needed) and set it up to prefer CoreAVC.
AVC files (like x264 encoded files) will be decoded with CoreAVC when you open them in MPC-HC. VLC will stay untouched.
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| Posted: Sun, 9th Nov 2008 02:34 Post subject: |
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CoreAVC blurs picture but I use it for watching 1080 content as it is still better than upscaled 720 content. For 720 content and for everything else I use ffdshow + Media Player Classic.
I use my LCD monitor(1680x1050) as a TV too. So, if you are watching on a "bigger" display blurriness would be much more noticeable.
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| Posted: Sun, 9th Nov 2008 02:46 Post subject: |
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Syn, while CoreAVC has gone some way way forward in fixing issues, I'll maintain my unpopular opinion of not liking it at all.
About PowerDVD, it should actually decode any h264 stream, it has nothing to do with the container (MKV). If you have Haali MKV splitter and disable/uninstall every other h264 codec (or increase the PDVD one's priority), it should decode pretty well (and take advantage of your hardware). I still find the PDVD producing pictures too soft for my liking.
So what's left? FFDSHOW IMO is the best option. You could give KMPlayer a shot (it uses the same core library as FFDSHOW).
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[sYn]
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| Posted: Sun, 9th Nov 2008 03:14 Post subject: |
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| LeoNatan wrote: | Syn, while CoreAVC has gone some way way forward in fixing issues, I'll maintain my unpopular opinion of not liking it at all.
About PowerDVD, it should actually decode any h264 stream, it has nothing to do with the container (MKV). If you have Haali MKV splitter and disable/uninstall every other h264 codec (or increase the PDVD one's priority), it should decode pretty well (and take advantage of your hardware). I still find the PDVD producing pictures too soft for my liking.
So what's left? FFDSHOW IMO is the best option. You could give KMPlayer a shot (it uses the same core library as FFDSHOW). |
It seems that it was the container was the problem, PowerDVD just doesn't cope with MKV. Installing Haali Media Splitter (http://haali.cs.msu.ru/mkv/) fixed the video issue but seems to have now caused an audio problem! Although I'm going to assume that will be easily fixed.. I'll have a play around. If anyone knows the problem, shout up.. Was fine without the splitter installed.
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Sun, 9th Nov 2008 03:16 Post subject: |
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Oh no, I meant playing the video in WMP and using PDVD's encoder...  Although from my limited experience, it should work. I have played MKV files inside PDVD.
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[sYn]
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| Posted: Sun, 9th Nov 2008 04:30 Post subject: |
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| [sYn] wrote: | I've had to change the file extension to even get Pdvd to start trying to play them  ! Still unsure on the audio front..
Just to clarify, the audio is DTS, like I said, it worked fine before installing the splitter so the codecs must be somewhere, however powerdvd doesn't seem to see any audio input at all. The splitter seems to see the audio.. maybe its just not providing it to pdvd ?
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same issue in wmp, video works fine but the audio is missing.. meh, bugger it, I'm just going to uninstall all this crap and move back to using VLC ! |
Missing DTS audio could be due to no hardware to decode it. What sound card do you use ? Do you use external audio receiver to which you pass-thru audio via SPDIF ? VLC does everything in software, decoding, down-mixing etc. so you hear the sound. Splitter just throws out raw audio stream, so now you need something to decode(ffdshow, AC3Filter, sound card capable to decode) it or pass it thru(SPDIF) to external decoder.
For example, I use Creative X-FI card as Dolby(AC-3) and DTS decoder. |
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[sYn]
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| Posted: Sun, 9th Nov 2008 04:43 Post subject: |
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My card supports DTS decoding, so it must be something to do with the splitter.. Still, I've uninstalled now anywho!
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| Posted: Sun, 9th Nov 2008 11:20 Post subject: |
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The splitter has nothing to do with decoding.
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| Posted: Sun, 9th Nov 2008 20:38 Post subject: |
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Of course not, but if the player doesn't recognise that there is even an audio component then no decoding will occur. This seemed to be the issue, no audio stream was getting to PDVD, all of PDVD's audio options were gone when trying to play the file.
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| Posted: Mon, 10th Nov 2008 07:31 Post subject: |
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I use CoreAVC as the preferred decoder with input/output levels set to PC (0-255).
You can also look into DivX H.264 Decoder. It's part of DivX's Project Rémoulade.
See some performance numbers here: http://labs.divx.com/node/7085#comment-7104
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| Posted: Mon, 10th Nov 2008 17:02 Post subject: |
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LOL, it would take hell freezing over before I install something related to Divx, and so should everyone else.
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| Posted: Thu, 22nd Jan 2009 16:47 Post subject: |
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Just wanted to recommend Elecard AVC/H.264 Decoder..here is a some info i copied from an nfo-file:
It also supports dxva (direct X Video Acceleration) which means that if the video is encoded to support this (which the scene-releases are), then you can playback 720/1080 content offloading the cpu usage to the gfx card.
Elecard AVC PlugIn is the package of Elecard
components for AVC/H.264 (MPEG-4 P.10 ISO/IEC
14496-10) and AAC (ISO/IEC 13818-7) data decoding.
It is developed for use with Elecard products: MPEG
Player, DVD Player, XMuxer Pro and XMuxer Lite.
AVC/H.264 Video Decoder
* Software-only ISO/IEC 14496 part 10 AVC / ITU-T
Recommendation H.264 stream decoding.
* Annex B byte stream and RTP payload formats
(FOURCC 'avc1') support.
* All features of Baseline, Main and High Profiles
support.
* Full-resolution, full-quality decoding/playback.
* Postprocessing (deinterlacing, fields reordering,
chroma upsampling).
* Optimized for the most efficient CPU usage -
takes advantage of MMXT Extensions, SSE2T, and
3DNow SIMD extensions when available.
* Optimized for symmetric multiprocessing
(Hyper-Threading Technology, multiple CPU and
multiple cores).
* GPU hardware acceleration support.
* Closed Captions decoding.
AAC Decoder
* Decodes MPEG-2 (ISO/IEC 13818-7) and MPEG-4
(ISO/IEC 14496-3 not including Amd.1:2003 and
Amd.2:2004) AAC audio streams.
* Supports Main, LC, LTP and ER BSAC audio object
types.
* Supports up to 8 audio channels.
[ RELEASE INFO ]
Start the Elecard Registrator and use the included
keymaker to register ...
Note:
Elecard AVC Plugin is by default limited to a few
apps that can make use of the plugin, even in the
registered version:
Elecard XMuxer Pro
Elecard XMuxer Lite
Elecard MPEG Player
Elecard DVD Player
To lift this restriction, replace the installed
lc.dll with the included cracked one.
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| Posted: Thu, 22nd Jan 2009 19:06 Post subject: |
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^^ what would be the benefit over COREAVC?
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| Posted: Thu, 22nd Jan 2009 20:28 Post subject: |
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COREAVC supports hardware accelleration, my cpu use is ~20% for 1080p
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| Posted: Thu, 22nd Jan 2009 22:58 Post subject: |
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oh .. I assumed it did because my cpu use was so low :/
tbh I didn't notice a difference in CPU use between coreavc and MPC-HT x64 w/ DXVA
1080p doesn't even play with ffdshow, but fine with either of those.
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| Posted: Thu, 22nd Jan 2009 23:45 Post subject: |
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The video has to be encoded in High Profile, Level 4.1 in order for the acceleration to function. Certain non-scene groups (like Eureka) have already started encoding only in L4.1 even if it hurts quality, while other groups (on the leading HDB) decide per-case whether it is possible to have a good quality in L4.1, or a higher level is needed (especially in 1080p encodes). It is perhaps that you have watched good quality encodes that have required a L5.1 encode.
In case you are wondering what the levels are, you could Google, or read this brief explanation:
| Quote: | L4.1 is 5 channel surround sound. L5.1 is 6 channel surround sound.. etc..etc. The "L" stands for louder as the
the speakers are specially made to accelerate the sound. Hope this helps. |
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| Posted: Fri, 23rd Jan 2009 01:37 Post subject: |
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| iNatan wrote: | | The video has to be encoded in High Profile, Level 4.1 in order for the acceleration to function. Certain non-scene groups (like Eureka) have already started encoding only in L4.1 even if it hurts quality, while other groups (on the leading HDB) decide per-case whether it is possible to have a good quality in L4.1, or a higher level is needed (especially in 1080p encodes). It is perhaps that you have watched good quality encodes that have required a L5.1 encode. |
This is just the reason why CoreCodec ignore DXVA and bet their money on CUDA, though it does suck that CUDA is a nVidia-only solution.
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| Posted: Fri, 23rd Jan 2009 11:24 Post subject: |
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Well, if you have an AMD card, the easiest way to see if it is used, you should just open the CCC and see if there is activity on the card. BTW, the only movie I've seen to really really be demanding was Sin City during the rain scene with Marv. I think it had 60Mbps peaks.
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| Posted: Wed, 4th Mar 2009 03:47 Post subject: |
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I have a .mkv with h264 and dolby sound and after a few seconds it gets kinda slow and MPC home edition reports dropped frames. And audio loses sync.
I checked out my cpu usage and it's around 70-90, so I guess that's not a problem, right ?
Maybe it's because of hard disk bottlenecking ? It's a 4,36gb file if it matters.
1) How can I be sure if it's the hard disk or the cpu ?
2) What's the easiest way to reencode to something lower ? Like mpeg, lol.
3) Isn't there a goddamn option in MPC or WMP to force video/audio to be in sync ? Goddamnit !
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| Posted: Wed, 4th Mar 2009 04:07 Post subject: |
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What CPU do you have? If it's a 4.36GB file, it is most likely 720p, and hardly any HDD or CPU would bottleneck on such file.
Try playing the file with WMP+Haali MKV+ffdshow tryouts.
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| Posted: Wed, 4th Mar 2009 04:17 Post subject: |
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MPCHE reports :
Video: MPEG4 Video (H264) 1280x720 29,97fps [Video]
Audio: Dolby AC3 48000Hz stereo [Audio]
I have an Athlon X2 4200+ (oc'ed at around 2,36 ghz)
How can I change between all these codecs ? Haali,ffdshow and I also installed coreavc.
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| Posted: Wed, 4th Mar 2009 04:54 Post subject: |
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Well good, now open the video using WMP. It will ask if you are sure, say yes (). If you have ffdshow installed, that will most probably be used. If it runs well, yay. If not, open ffdshow's video settings, go to codecs, h264 and select disabled. Now CoreAVC will be used. If it fails again, burn the PC.
BTW, I hope you got ffdshow tryouts and not ol` ffdshow.
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