[XBOX360] XBOX 360 Current Best Mod Chip for XBOX Live
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MistressDeath




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PostPosted: Tue, 21st Oct 2008 20:32    Post subject: [XBOX360] XBOX 360 Current Best Mod Chip for XBOX Live
Hey,

Sorry if this has been asked 100 times already.

1. I was wondering what everyone was using for a mod chip on the XBOX 360?
2. Which is the best?
3. Are there soderless USB chips now?
4. Also, I read that using a mod chip with XBOX Live can get you banned. Do you have another XBOX 360 for playing downloaded games?

I just saw someone ask in the Gears of War 2 thread if anyone wants to play coop and I was like how does he do that without being banned by M$.

TIA!

MD


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Weedo




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PostPosted: Tue, 21st Oct 2008 20:35    Post subject:
No chip - they are crap. You flash your DVD-drive with a hacked firmware which is even Live proof.
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Jenni
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PostPosted: Tue, 21st Oct 2008 20:49    Post subject:
It may be Live proof.


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MistressDeath




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PostPosted: Tue, 21st Oct 2008 21:12    Post subject:
Weedo wrote:
No chip - they are crap. You flash your DVD-drive with a hacked firmware which is even Live proof.

Wow, really! Thanks, I will utilize google to learn more.

Thanks for the info!

MD


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xyzg




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PostPosted: Wed, 22nd Oct 2008 00:06    Post subject:
I just played GOW2 and went on live.. i'm now awaiting my Live ban when the next dashboard update comes around.

Seriously though no one knows for sure how/what MS check before they dish out the bans.
Still flashed firmware is the way to go with a 360 though.
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Ashmolly




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PostPosted: Wed, 22nd Oct 2008 00:18    Post subject:
MistressDeath wrote:
Weedo wrote:
No chip - they are crap. You flash your DVD-drive with a hacked firmware which is even Live proof.

Wow, really! Thanks, I will utilize google to learn more.

Thanks for the info!

MD


Hehe I asked this question couple days ago, flashed my 360 within 25-30 mins, it went smooth and learned a couple of new things. If you have any questions, i stopped off at a couple of forums and got a lot of good info.


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Jenni
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PostPosted: Wed, 22nd Oct 2008 01:51    Post subject:
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MistressDeath




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PostPosted: Thu, 23rd Oct 2008 03:42    Post subject:
Thank You!!!

I have tried to the firmware mod and it has continually failed for me using my EVGA 680i SATA Controller. I have ordered the Rosewill SATA PCI card and it will be here tomorrow. I am looking forward to getting this working. I just downloaded Force Unleashed and want to play it bad!!! I have been on Xbox Scene and others and there is TONS of info out there. I learned so much about Dosflash and Iprep that I could do this in my sleep. The one thing that sucked was making the tool to unclip the back of the XBOX 360. My spindle had thin plastic so it didn't quite work the way I wanted it to.....bending/breaking but I worked through it. Downloading Fable 2 and GoW2 right now. I have made the conscious choice to just play downloaded games locally and never use Xbox Live unless I actually own the game. I will report back tomorrow night and let you know how it goes.

Thanks again! Smile

MD


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Jenni
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PostPosted: Thu, 23rd Oct 2008 04:35    Post subject:
The tool is extremely cheap to buy on Ebay.
It turns a slow sloppy job into a quick and easy job and with no outside damage.
I couldn't be without mine.
I also hope you have a Torx 10 security bit driver too. With the tool you get one included.
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Klinge




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PostPosted: Thu, 23rd Oct 2008 10:18    Post subject:
Just flashed the 360 of a friend of mine yesterday, was quick an easy, even getting the white lid of with a small screwdriver went fast and easy without damaging it. But it was kinda wierd, I remembered having more problems when I did mine. Well, another case of beer earned and another fellow buccaneer on the net Very Happy


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NoIncentive




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PostPosted: Thu, 23rd Oct 2008 10:35    Post subject:
MistressDeath wrote:
Thank You!!!

I have tried to the firmware mod and it has continually failed for me using my EVGA 680i SATA Controller. I have ordered the Rosewill SATA PCI card and it will be here tomorrow. I am looking forward to getting this working. I just downloaded Force Unleashed and want to play it bad!!! I have been on Xbox Scene and others and there is TONS of info out there. I learned so much about Dosflash and Iprep that I could do this in my sleep. The one thing that sucked was making the tool to unclip the back of the XBOX 360. My spindle had thin plastic so it didn't quite work the way I wanted it to.....bending/breaking but I worked through it. Downloading Fable 2 and GoW2 right now. I have made the conscious choice to just play downloaded games locally and never use Xbox Live unless I actually own the game. I will report back tomorrow night and let you know how it goes.

Thanks again! Smile

MD


Which drive are you using, and what method? If you are using a Samsung or BenQ drive, that chipset works fine with Dosflash 32 1.6. Simple 2 minute flash in Windows. Worst case scenario, you only wasted what... $12 on the Via sata card?

I have the same sata card btw. I do a lot of box flashes.
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MistressDeath




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PostPosted: Thu, 23rd Oct 2008 15:39    Post subject:
Yes, I have the Benq drive. I will be getting the 6421 VIA SATA card today. For some reason I was able to disconnect everything SATA/IDE and connect the Benq drive and see it in the Bios. But I just couldn't download the fw to my thumb drive. I tried it using Dosflash and Iprep so I just figured my SATA was not compatible some how. When I look in my msinfo32 it shows 2 SATA. Also, in Iprep 2 SATA show up. I have created Iprep on the thumbdrive with both SATA and still a no go. Sad I even made sure I had the Benq on SATA channel 1, the first channel. Glad to hear it's easy for everyone and when I get the card I am predicting it will be easy for me as well.

Thanks,

MD


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MistressDeath




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PostPosted: Thu, 23rd Oct 2008 22:45    Post subject:
Awesome! Success!!

Thanks for the help everyone. I am able to play originals and now downloaded games. The Rosewill SATA card did the trick.

One more question......Now that I can play downloaded games do I need to unplug my X360 from the internet? Or am I ok as long I never go to the Marketplace DLC from with in the game? Kind of scared because while I was playing Force Unleashed I was getting Achievements.

Just got done killing Wookies on Kashyyyk as Vader! Incredible game, so very happy. The best part is that I burned the Force Unleashed on a DVD+R Playo and it worked! Playos are very cheap. I normally buy Verbatim but I am broke at the moment. Burning Gears of War 2 now, will give that a try. Will be difficult not playing it with a mouse and keyboard. I am sure my play will be quite embarrassing! LOL! Smile

Thanks again,

MD


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Big_Gun




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PostPosted: Fri, 24th Oct 2008 02:51    Post subject:
MistressDeath wrote:
Awesome! Success!!

Thanks for the help everyone. I am able to play originals and now downloaded games. The Rosewill SATA card did the trick.

One more question......Now that I can play downloaded games do I need to unplug my X360 from the internet? Or am I ok as long I never go to the Marketplace DLC from with in the game? Kind of scared because while I was playing Force Unleashed I was getting Achievements.

Just got done killing Wookies on Kashyyyk as Vader! Incredible game, so very happy. The best part is that I burned the Force Unleashed on a DVD+R Playo and it worked! Playos are very cheap. I normally buy Verbatim but I am broke at the moment. Burning Gears of War 2 now, will give that a try. Will be difficult not playing it with a mouse and keyboard. I am sure my play will be quite embarrassing! LOL! Smile

Thanks again,

MD


no one knows what is safe.
I have a first gen Xbox 360 with a first gen firmware update. I am not banned from live and have downloaded quite a few Rockband songs as well as an arcade game or 2. Not banned yet. Have never played a game on Live.

Have read about people who have never even had their box connected at all to an ethernet cable after being flashed and still being banned when they finally do log onto live. Something about them transferring a hard drive to another console or some such.

point is, it is pretty much a crap shoot I think at this point. There is nothing that will keep you 100% safe.

i do keep my unit unplugged though until i go to pay for something on live.

I still suck at most games without my trusty mouse and keyboard... especially a console FPS.
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MistressDeath




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PostPosted: Fri, 24th Oct 2008 21:23    Post subject:
Yes, that is what I have read so far on all the forums. I guess the real threat is the November update. I am unplugging my X360 when I am playing a backup and plugging in when I am playing a Xbox Live game like Rock Band 2.

MD


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BenJeremy




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PostPosted: Mon, 27th Oct 2008 17:04    Post subject:
Maybe I can help clear up some confusion regarding the DVD drive firmware hacks... and hopefully make some of you feel better.

Microsoft has shot themselves in the foot over this, because:

1. Multiple sources of drives

and

2. A hamfisted attempt to block hackers prevents them from reading many models they use on Xbox 360s, but did nothing to stop the hackers who know how to access the firmware.

Essentially, Microsoft directed DVD drive suppliers to prevent read access to the firmware through 'normal' means - but since nobody likes wasting perfectly good units because of a glitch on the assembly line, these drives still retain a means to reflash (read and write) the firmware; in this case, it involves powering the drive off and on and using a SATA chipset that can handle the re-initialization of the drive in the 'tricky' manner required to access the drive's firmware in recovery mode. The Xbox 360 is incapable of doing this without physical intervention, since the drive power supply is not independent from the mainboard's supply.

Short explanation: There is no DIRECT means for Microsoft to verify that the firmware has been hacked on drives with Firmguard protection (almost all later drives). Even if they can (some models do allow this), it becomes tricky to navigate how the system has been configured, updated, refurbished, repaired.... making it an iffy proposition to catch a user that way.

Microsoft can, and has tried in the past, to use INDIRECT means to detect modders... but the best method they came up with resulted in tons of false positives because of failing drives on legit, non-modded systems. Timing checks failed. Because of this, you are relatively safe as long as you follow the following general rules:

1. Use only backups you've made for yourself ...or barring that...
2. Use only 'clean' retail releases from your own region, from groups with a good reputation
3. Don't play games that aren't released yet on

Review copies can trip you up. Likewise, don't put it past Microsoft or EA to release a 'trojan' version fo the game as a honey pot to catch modders who download releases - i.e. a game that specificaly signals Microsoft that it's a pirated downloaded game. We haven't seen the last move YET, but I can't see why it hasn't happend yet. Anything with modded data coud also trip you up - Guitar Hero II, for example, could get an update that looks at the data on the disc and reports the user to the Microsoft servers, for example.

For the most part, DVD firmware hacking by itself is perfectly safe, just be aware of the copied software you are running.
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MistressDeath




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PostPosted: Tue, 28th Oct 2008 05:51    Post subject:
Very nice information! Thank you! I will keep this in mind. I am pretty much following these guidelines anyway. I am very serious about not getting caught and staying online with Live.

I appreciate it! Smile

MD


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PostPosted: Tue, 28th Oct 2008 07:01    Post subject:
Jenni: for the Torx part, Biltema FTW ^^
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