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_SiN_
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 Posted: Sun, 8th Jun 2008 22:30 Post subject: Why does 1080p rips lag for me? |
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So i've now tried playing Cloverfield and I Am Legend 1080p BluRay rips, but they lag from time to time.
LOTR: The Return of the King works fine though.
I've tried VLC, Media Player Classic HomeCinema Ed. and WMP. Seems to work best in WMP, by some weird reason.
I have ffdshow and Haali Media Splitter (codecs are really not something i know much about).
This is on a C2D E6750, 4 gigs of PC6700 DDR2 ram and a 8800GT..
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| Posted: Sun, 8th Jun 2008 22:36 Post subject: |
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altho all my screens limited to 720p i did tried 1080p rip and it worked smooth
k-lite mega codec pack 3.95f
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| Posted: Sun, 8th Jun 2008 22:36 Post subject: |
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Get yourself CoreAVC.....
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Do Work!
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Sun, 8th Jun 2008 22:36 Post subject: |
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No reason for that to happen. But since you have an 8800GT, you should use PowerDVD's h264 decoder, because there's hardware acceleration.
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| Posted: Mon, 9th Jun 2008 00:04 Post subject: |
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increase the read buffer in haali splitter
that should help a bit
disable unnecessary postprocessing from ffdshow (essentially all but h264 deblock)
also, make sure antialiasing isn't forced on and try switching the video renderer
if it still lags, use a hardware decoder or coreavc
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_SiN_
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| Posted: Mon, 9th Jun 2008 21:05 Post subject: |
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Hm, im thinking it might have something to do with my disk access speed? When transferring files between my disks, i have a maximum of 50 mb/s. And can't be right.
Or is the transfer-speed slow just when tranferring, not opening a videofile on another harddrive?
Yeah, i'm running Vista.
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| Posted: Mon, 9th Jun 2008 21:21 Post subject: |
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| Viper5000 wrote: | | Get yourself CoreAVC..... |
... and then choose to use it for h264 in MPC. The problem with powerdvd is that it doesn't support .mkv or the embedded subs.
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| Posted: Mon, 9th Jun 2008 22:45 Post subject: |
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Don't use PowerDVD's player, it's complete bollocks. Use their decoder in WMP, MPC, etc.
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nouseforaname
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| Posted: Mon, 9th Jun 2008 22:59 Post subject: |
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I tried to select their decoder in MPC but all it did for me was freeze up...
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| Posted: Tue, 10th Jun 2008 01:14 Post subject: |
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720p is way enough for my 32" anyway... So VLC is a no go for HD rips? :\
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| Posted: Tue, 10th Jun 2008 01:16 Post subject: |
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Why not? It's fine. It's slower then the rest, but with 720p it's more than enough. I can watch 1080p movies on it fine as well.
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| Posted: Tue, 10th Jun 2008 01:58 Post subject: |
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I had lots of lags with 1080p using my cpu to decode. I just prefer MPC over VLC because there is no video controls in full screen with VLC, which makes it fucking useless for HTPC.
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| Posted: Tue, 10th Jun 2008 02:05 Post subject: |
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Nouse, try this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_KMPlayer
It's great for HTPC, and allows you to set up external codecs much easier. Plus it has a much nicer interface.
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| Posted: Tue, 10th Jun 2008 02:14 Post subject: |
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| LeoNatan wrote: | | Why not? It's fine. It's slower then the rest, but with 720p it's more than enough. I can watch 1080p movies on it fine as well. |
There is no point, very few full HD 32". In fact the onces that excists are even more expensive than most 37" full HDs. Its very rare I download 720p too, only really good movies ^^
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| Posted: Tue, 10th Jun 2008 02:30 Post subject: |
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| TesterWS wrote: | | How much power does 1080p needs? Is a C2D 2x2Ghz enough? |
more than enough
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| Posted: Tue, 10th Jun 2008 10:04 Post subject: |
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| LeoNatan wrote: | | Don't use PowerDVD's player, it's complete bollocks. Use their decoder in WMP, MPC, etc. |
I might sound like a noob , but i got powerdvd 8 installed , when checking external filters in MPC i see a bunch of cyberlink codecs but none have 264 in them.
I basicly want to get UVD support ( for kicks ) since i got an ATI card and read alot of good things about it , google search told me its only supported under vista 32 bit ... ? and that it has issues with MKV files , so basicly its useless if you dont play bluray or HDDVD ?
At the moment on a AMD 6000+ x2 a 1080p video will take 33% cpu usage at max on one core , zero lag etc. Using the standard ffsshow decoder that comes with it.
With coreavc its about 27% percent, but i miss out on the ffdshow video settings ( i really need the gamma etc settings )
So im fine for now, but this year i would like to build a HTPC which has to be as cheap and low power usage as possible , hardware acceleration through GPU would be a huge help.
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| Posted: Tue, 10th Jun 2008 10:13 Post subject: |
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my 'mediacenter' based on P4 @3.4ghz + 6800Gt runs 1080p perfectly and stutters only when there's rain or a lot of leaves. So lol @ C2D.
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| Posted: Tue, 10th Jun 2008 12:14 Post subject: |
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| Stefan F wrote: | | LeoNatan wrote: | | Don't use PowerDVD's player, it's complete bollocks. Use their decoder in WMP, MPC, etc. |
I might sound like a noob , but i got powerdvd 8 installed , when checking external filters in MPC i see a bunch of cyberlink codecs but none have 264 in them.
I basicly want to get UVD support ( for kicks ) since i got an ATI card and read alot of good things about it , google search told me its only supported under vista 32 bit ... ? and that it has issues with MKV files , so basicly its useless if you dont play bluray or HDDVD ?
At the moment on a AMD 6000+ x2 a 1080p video will take 33% cpu usage at max on one core , zero lag etc. Using the standard ffsshow decoder that comes with it.
With coreavc its about 27% percent, but i miss out on the ffdshow video settings ( i really need the gamma etc settings )
So im fine for now, but this year i would like to build a HTPC which has to be as cheap and low power usage as possible , hardware acceleration through GPU would be a huge help. |
You can enable ffdshow to read uncompressed video and you'll have all the ffdshow perks while using the CoreAVC (or any other) decoder. |
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| Posted: Tue, 10th Jun 2008 13:03 Post subject: |
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| LeoNatan wrote: | | Stefan F wrote: | | LeoNatan wrote: | | Don't use PowerDVD's player, it's complete bollocks. Use their decoder in WMP, MPC, etc. |
I might sound like a noob , but i got powerdvd 8 installed , when checking external filters in MPC i see a bunch of cyberlink codecs but none have 264 in them.
I basicly want to get UVD support ( for kicks ) since i got an ATI card and read alot of good things about it , google search told me its only supported under vista 32 bit ... ? and that it has issues with MKV files , so basicly its useless if you dont play bluray or HDDVD ?
At the moment on a AMD 6000+ x2 a 1080p video will take 33% cpu usage at max on one core , zero lag etc. Using the standard ffsshow decoder that comes with it.
With coreavc its about 27% percent, but i miss out on the ffdshow video settings ( i really need the gamma etc settings )
So im fine for now, but this year i would like to build a HTPC which has to be as cheap and low power usage as possible , hardware acceleration through GPU would be a huge help. |
You can enable ffdshow to read uncompressed video and you'll have all the ffdshow perks while using the CoreAVC (or any other) decoder. |
as far as you know only the powerdvd codecs have GPU support for h264 ? wouldnt mind trying those out on h264 encoded mkv rips what i would primarely use. If it only works for bluray and HDVD than it would be quite a let down and useless to me.
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| Posted: Tue, 10th Jun 2008 13:04 Post subject: |
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Yes, currently only Cyberlink decoder supports HW acceleration. CoreAVC are however scamming people into thinking they will be adding HW acceleration soon. 
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| Posted: Tue, 10th Jun 2008 14:52 Post subject: |
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Yeah, I THINK the image didn't look as sharp as with ffdshow, but im not sure.
But it's silly that it has to lag really - i should be able to play 1080p without any hassle whatsoever!
I mean my PC CAN handle it without any problem, there's obviously something else that's wrong..
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| Posted: Wed, 11th Jun 2008 03:44 Post subject: |
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Perhaps a slow HDD? Or many fragmentations?
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| Posted: Wed, 11th Jun 2008 04:32 Post subject: |
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The only thing that fixed the lag for me was Core AVC Pro + MPC. Works perfect everytime now.
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| Posted: Wed, 11th Jun 2008 04:53 Post subject: |
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| _SiN_ wrote: | Yeah, I THINK the image didn't look as sharp as with ffdshow, but im not sure.
But it's silly that it has to lag really - i should be able to play 1080p without any hassle whatsoever!
I mean my PC CAN handle it without any problem, there's obviously something else that's wrong.. |
Are you using the combined community codec pack? If so than
start>programs>cccp>video decoder
look for H.264/AVC and click the drop ddown list and choose disable |
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| Posted: Wed, 11th Jun 2008 07:10 Post subject: |
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he did say he has ffdshow
which is the same thing
are you sure you disabled all the unnecessary filters (essentially all) in ffdshow video decoder?
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