Stardock CEO and Chris Taylor on "PC Gamming Dying"
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Big_Gun




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PostPosted: Sun, 4th May 2008 21:30    Post subject: Stardock CEO and Chris Taylor on "PC Gamming Dying"
Thought this clip from this interview was pretty good:

"From an interview with Stardock's CEO and Christ Taylor:

"What's your response to the belief that PC gaming is dying?

BW - Oh absolutely. It's not just dying, it's already dead. Totally. In fact...all game developers that feel that way should quickly flee to the, um ... console market, right now. Don't worry about us, we'll guard you're back while you retreat. Nothing to see here. We'll shut the lights off when you're all gone. No, no, no need to thank us at all. We just want to make sure the developers who think PC gaming is dying are safe to flee to greener pastures. We're just that selfless.

CT – (Laughs) Okay, so I'll give a slightly more "serious" answer. I've said that PC Gaming "as we know it" is dying, but there is a new kind of PC gaming being born out the ashes. Brad is definitely leading this charge with his innovative approach, and I am 100% in support of this. It's like what Sam Walton once said when asked how to succeed, he said, "Do what everyone else isn't doing." And this is exactly the case here. Remove this awful copy protection, and give your customers the great experience they deserve. Brad has a model which bucks the old system, and it's time to buck the old system, because the old system wasn't working ... it is, in fact, dead."

Link to full interview: http://www.joystiq.com/2008/04/24/joystiq-interview-demigod-sins-and-the-death-of-pc-gaming
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PostPosted: Sun, 4th May 2008 21:44    Post subject:
Gee... another "pc gaming is dying" thread... :S


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PostPosted: Sun, 4th May 2008 22:04    Post subject:
All companies with crappy games seem to want to blame pirates for their lack of income. Maybe they should look at their product first. The quality of games these days has dropped so much compared to 10 years ago. Sure, the graphics have improved but that's it. Funny how Blizzard makes a good revenue. Stardock is a joke anyway.
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PostPosted: Sun, 4th May 2008 22:15    Post subject:
I think eventually, pc games will be reduced to rpgs and mmorpgs. I mean, I have never played an rpg (aside from oblivion) on a console that was good


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PostPosted: Sun, 4th May 2008 22:16    Post subject:
Guys; read what was actually said. A topic title doesn't tell the whole story. Very Happy Stardock and Valve for the world!




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PostPosted: Sun, 4th May 2008 22:18    Post subject:
Ispep wrote:
Guys; read what was actually said. A topic doesn't tell the whole story. Very Happy Stardock and Valve for the world!


And paradox?
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PostPosted: Sun, 4th May 2008 22:44    Post subject:
"Remove this awful copy protection, and give your customers the great experience they deserve."
QFT
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PostPosted: Sun, 4th May 2008 22:57    Post subject:
I love how retards will just read the title and not the stuff in it........

Anyway this was great, major props to Stardock and Chris Taylor, because they are right and they have a sense of humor.

Also MMORPG's, RPG's and FPS (yes FPS, you can play them on Console, but never as good as on a pc) will remain mostly pc market.

The other games frat boy games, such as racing games, sports games and so will be and can stay on consoles for all I care, if I wanna race or play sports i'll do it outside in the real life.
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PostPosted: Mon, 5th May 2008 00:04    Post subject:
One question:
Who are these two freaks and what chattersEvil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad
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PostPosted: Mon, 5th May 2008 00:48    Post subject:
RTS's and hardcore sims aswell Cebrail. And err, adventure games (they just won't die!) and you'll always get at least a few good casual games, even if only because the PC is the only dev platform for them.
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PostPosted: Mon, 5th May 2008 00:59    Post subject:
if FPS die out on PC im buying a sniper rifle and climbing the nearest roof top Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: Mon, 5th May 2008 01:12    Post subject:
Newty182 wrote:
if FPS die out on PC im buying a sniper rifle and climbing the nearest roof top Twisted Evil


Unless Virtual reality consoles are sold in masses I don't see the FPS market dying anytime soon. A noob PC gamer would own a hardcore console gamer any day.
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PostPosted: Mon, 5th May 2008 01:19    Post subject:
NuclearShadow wrote:
Newty182 wrote:
if FPS die out on PC im buying a sniper rifle and climbing the nearest roof top Twisted Evil


Unless Virtual reality consoles are sold in masses I don't see the FPS market dying anytime soon. A noob PC gamer would own a hardcore console gamer any day.


i did forget how crap the controls are for console gamers until the other day when i played resistance fall of man.. sucked big time
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PostPosted: Mon, 5th May 2008 01:57    Post subject:
i tried crysis on the wii Laughing , controls arent to bad even with the wiimote but no match for a mouse
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PostPosted: Mon, 5th May 2008 03:51    Post subject:
Ispep wrote:
Guys; read what was actually said. A topic title doesn't tell the whole story. Very Happy Stardock and Valve for the world!


I am starting to wonder how well some people that post can actually read. . .
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PostPosted: Mon, 5th May 2008 03:54    Post subject:
tardissun wrote:
All companies with crappy games seem to want to blame pirates for their lack of income. Maybe they should look at their product first. The quality of games these days has dropped so much compared to 10 years ago. Sure, the graphics have improved but that's it. Funny how Blizzard makes a good revenue. Stardock is a joke anyway.


Lol. Sad.
I would love to see you when you have to sit down with instructions to assemble something. I bet that is a hoot.
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PostPosted: Mon, 5th May 2008 03:55    Post subject:
hmmm, this was a pretty interesting read. I've been one of those who's been watching demigod Smile I even made a thread for it

http://www.nfohump.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=43304

I like that someone in the gaming industry finally realizes how damaging copy protection is and how useless it is.


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PostPosted: Mon, 5th May 2008 04:11    Post subject:
If I made PC games I wouldn't bother putting copy protection on it. Why spend X amount of money so a game I made won't be playable when pirated for 2 days max. The game developers should turn around and sue the shitty protection company's its a damn scam.
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PostPosted: Mon, 5th May 2008 04:20    Post subject:
LeoNatan wrote:
"Remove this awful copy protection, and give your customers the great experience they deserve."
QFT

Good point.
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PostPosted: Mon, 5th May 2008 05:52    Post subject:
Big_Gun wrote:
tardissun wrote:
All companies with crappy games seem to want to blame pirates for their lack of income. Maybe they should look at their product first. The quality of games these days has dropped so much compared to 10 years ago. Sure, the graphics have improved but that's it. Funny how Blizzard makes a good revenue. Stardock is a joke anyway.


Lol. Sad.
I would love to see you when you have to sit down with instructions to assemble something. I bet that is a hoot.


LOL, no problems here. I'm sorry I don't subscribe to your 12 year old mind console fanboys theory that consoles are totally l33t and therefor must rule. I have 2 consoles for my kids, and while they do get more use during parties (because more people can play at once), no one touches them otherwise. Guess what, they're always trying to play games on the PC and we have to have a time limit set for them, but oddly enough we don't need a limit for either of the consoles. If it becomes an issue, we would, but it hasn't.

Please, don't let me stop you from your brainless button mashing. Continue, I can see your education has benefited from it thus far.
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PostPosted: Mon, 5th May 2008 05:58    Post subject:
tardissun wrote:
Big_Gun wrote:
tardissun wrote:
All companies with crappy games seem to want to blame pirates for their lack of income. Maybe they should look at their product first. The quality of games these days has dropped so much compared to 10 years ago. Sure, the graphics have improved but that's it. Funny how Blizzard makes a good revenue. Stardock is a joke anyway.


Lol. Sad.
I would love to see you when you have to sit down with instructions to assemble something. I bet that is a hoot.


LOL, no problems here. I'm sorry I don't subscribe to your 12 year old mind console fanboys theory that consoles are totally l33t and therefor must rule. I have 2 consoles for my kids, and while they do get more use during parties (because more people can play at once), no one touches them otherwise. Guess what, they're always trying to play games on the PC and we have to have a time limit set for them, but oddly enough we don't need a limit for either of the consoles. If it becomes an issue, we would, but it hasn't.

Please, don't let me stop you from your brainless button mashing. Continue, I can see your education has benefited from it thus far.


WTF are you on about?
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PostPosted: Mon, 5th May 2008 07:13    Post subject:
NuclearShadow wrote:
If I made PC games I wouldn't bother putting copy protection on it. Why spend X amount of money so a game I made won't be playable when pirated for 2 days max. The game developers should turn around and sue the shitty protection company's its a damn scam.
I would, there are some great protections out there which is helping to get around the noobs, so yes I would use protection.
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PostPosted: Mon, 5th May 2008 09:14    Post subject:
tardissun wrote:
Big_Gun wrote:
tardissun wrote:
All companies with crappy games seem to want to blame pirates for their lack of income. Maybe they should look at their product first. The quality of games these days has dropped so much compared to 10 years ago. Sure, the graphics have improved but that's it. Funny how Blizzard makes a good revenue. Stardock is a joke anyway.


Lol. Sad.
I would love to see you when you have to sit down with instructions to assemble something. I bet that is a hoot.


LOL, no problems here. I'm sorry I don't subscribe to your 12 year old mind console fanboys theory that consoles are totally l33t and therefor must rule. I have 2 consoles for my kids, and while they do get more use during parties (because more people can play at once), no one touches them otherwise. Guess what, they're always trying to play games on the PC and we have to have a time limit set for them, but oddly enough we don't need a limit for either of the consoles. If it becomes an issue, we would, but it hasn't.

Please, don't let me stop you from your brainless button mashing. Continue, I can see your education has benefited from it thus far.


Haha, how do you manage to miss the point totally TWICE in the same thread AND branch out about something totally irrelevant in both responses?



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PostPosted: Mon, 5th May 2008 09:26    Post subject:
Heck, i only wish companies like EPIC, CryTek, etc. stay the heck away from the PC Gaming Industry, if their engine tech is still developed for the PC, so others can make a proper game with it, then i couldn't care less about UT3, Crysis, etc.

UT was good back in the first game, the other releases were just tech demos for their engine tech, i don't buy tech demos.
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PostPosted: Mon, 5th May 2008 12:32    Post subject:
This makes me think back to Bioshock. The copy protection wasn't cracked for over a week and in that case must have helped sell games. For me though it just annoyed the fuck out of me, i preordered the game with no mention of needing an internet connection and then when i got it i couldn't install.. i had to haul my PC round to my brothers house and back just to play a game that i had paid for!
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PostPosted: Mon, 5th May 2008 12:39    Post subject:
tardissun wrote:
Big_Gun wrote:
tardissun wrote:
All companies with crappy games seem to want to blame pirates for their lack of income. Maybe they should look at their product first. The quality of games these days has dropped so much compared to 10 years ago. Sure, the graphics have improved but that's it. Funny how Blizzard makes a good revenue. Stardock is a joke anyway.


Lol. Sad.
I would love to see you when you have to sit down with instructions to assemble something. I bet that is a hoot.


LOL, no problems here. I'm sorry I don't subscribe to your 12 year old mind console fanboys theory that consoles are totally l33t and therefor must rule. I have 2 consoles for my kids, and while they do get more use during parties (because more people can play at once), no one touches them otherwise. Guess what, they're always trying to play games on the PC and we have to have a time limit set for them, but oddly enough we don't need a limit for either of the consoles. If it becomes an issue, we would, but it hasn't.

Please, don't let me stop you from your brainless button mashing. Continue, I can see your education has benefited from it thus far.


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!! Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing

read the original post. All the way through. Then read it again. . . if you still miss the point, try reading it a third time. If you still don't get it it... scroll down for a brief summary:










They are saying PC gaming is NOT dead. I am NOT a console fan boy... though i own nearly every console system (except the PS3). My first love is and always will be the PC.
Now quit making yourself look stupid.
Geez.
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PostPosted: Mon, 5th May 2008 14:18    Post subject:
was there not a thread on here a few weeks/months ago bout chris taylor saying how PC gaming is dying and piracy is the cause ??
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PostPosted: Mon, 5th May 2008 14:36    Post subject:
He said something to that effect yeah. They are loyal to their paymasters at the end of the day Wink


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PostPosted: Mon, 5th May 2008 16:32    Post subject:
Ispep wrote:
He said something to that effect yeah. They are loyal to their paymasters at the end of the day Wink


I think it is just that Stardock has showed how to make money in PC Gaming in a different way and they have also proven PC gaming is not at all dead.
Chris Taylor still says the way they did/do things IS dead and that the new approach Stardock is taking is the only way to go.
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PostPosted: Mon, 5th May 2008 18:05    Post subject:
PC- and graphics card manufacturers should invest some of their profit in PC gaming. If PC gaming dies, the majority will upgrade their computer less frequently or stop buying 500€ graphics cards. And the hardware profit margin on consoles is a lot lower then that on PC's.

Thank god for Microsoft with their Vista bloatware so even recent computers seem slow, so people will upgrade again to perform trivial tasks like browsing the internet or checking mail.
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