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Cohen
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 Posted: Thu, 7th Feb 2008 21:18 Post subject: For fuck's sake. |
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Yet another thing to Bitch about.
Ive been looking for work for almost 6 months. Anyone living in the UK who has claimed JSA will know that after 6 months with no luck finding said work, you get put on the dribbler's course (new deal) with you guessed it.. dribblers and wasters.
Basically If I havent found work by the 20th of feb I have to go on to a stupid week course with New Deal to gain "skills". Fuck knows what this means, all I know is that it's mainly for smack addicts and utter waster chav cunts who do nothing but sit around town benches and hang on street corners all day long causing trouble, no intention of working.
Now, living in a low employment area, naturally I was over the moon to get an email from the O2 phone company asking me to send them my CV as they have a vacancy which I may be interested in. Turns out I was *(OBVIOUSLY)* and they booked me a phone interview. Well I passed this interview quite easily, now I have to have a face to face interview with the manager, I'm confident this is now in the bag.
But you ask, why is this a bitch? Well, the job interview is on the 18th. And after that is conducted, I have to wait another week to find out if I have the job or not. (long processing im guessing). 2 fucking days. God damnit.
SO this means that if the interview was 1 week earlier I would be able to get off this fucking JSA and not have to bother with the new deal dribbler course.
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SycoShaman
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| Posted: Thu, 7th Feb 2008 21:25 Post subject: |
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Meh, not so bad man.
If you have to do the course, just go, dont talk to anyone, do the easy work and have it under your belt. Simple as that you know?
Sucks having to spend your time with crackheads but shit, sometimes in life you gotta do things you dont want to you know?
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| Posted: Thu, 7th Feb 2008 21:39 Post subject: |
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Cohen
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[sYn]
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| Posted: Thu, 7th Feb 2008 23:00 Post subject: |
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Can't you get out of it by saying you have a good prospect? I'm sure if you goto the job center looking decent they will sort you out and let you off..
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| Posted: Fri, 8th Feb 2008 03:27 Post subject: |
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Thats what you get for wasting for six months. Seriously, theres a reason why so many of the people who've been on JSA for that long are heroin addicts or overage chavs.
"Techniclly speaking, Beta-Manboi didnt inject Burberry_Massi with Benz, he injected him with liquid that had air bubbles in it, which caused benz." - House M.D
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| Posted: Fri, 8th Feb 2008 05:06 Post subject: |
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Sounds retarded.
Sense Amid Madness, Wit Amidst Folly
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Jenni
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| Posted: Fri, 8th Feb 2008 07:49 Post subject: |
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Heres what you do, a friend of mine was in an exact same situation.
Ring up CSV, http://www.csv.org.uk/ . Tell them thay you're interested in starting a course. I don't know what you're interested in. They will arrange an interview so attend. Tell them that you maybe starting work so you'll cancel if you get the job. Now if you don't get the job (good luck btw) they'll place you on a course that's worthwhile. My friend done a course (the job fell through) for his HGV class 2 and ADR. He passed them both. But you're put on a placement with a voluntary job. It's the same as if you're on placement through New Deal. But the idiots who are on the course aren't getting the training. My friend went through Van Hee for his course. He was placed with Community Furniture driving a van. The people that were placed through the New Deal were placed straight into Community Furniture. So they get no training and were there Five days a week. He did one day a week there (by his own choice) and Four days with Van Hee.
I hope I've explained that clearly. By the way the course cost over £2500 and the ADR was £300 or so. All paid by the CSV and the Job Centre.
But don't just go through New Deal because they'll put you on a course lasting Three Months and you'll get no training at all.
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| Posted: Fri, 8th Feb 2008 15:31 Post subject: |
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forgive my lack of knowing what goes on in other countries but your required to go to a school thing or whatever it's called if your unemployed for so long?
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deelix
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| Posted: Fri, 8th Feb 2008 17:17 Post subject: |
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Good advice Jenni, I was on JSA after I left college and they stuck me on a microsoft training course..
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| Posted: Fri, 8th Feb 2008 18:23 Post subject: |
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if unemployment is high in the area, move... simple, move to the job... making friends is easy
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tobycoaster
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Jenni
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| Posted: Fri, 8th Feb 2008 20:30 Post subject: |
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What a load of BS. Just like AM's post.
You've not taken into account of anyones personal circumstances. Yeah sure theres a lot of wasters that have no intention of finding work.
But on the other hand theres people that try hard and just seem to be getting the knockback for every job they go for.
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tobycoaster
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| Posted: Fri, 8th Feb 2008 21:26 Post subject: |
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and this is why you should work hard in school kids.
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Cohen
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| Posted: Fri, 8th Feb 2008 22:20 Post subject: |
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Not to cause upraw AM but I'm not a waster. Ive handed out more CV's than I can remember and have only had 2 replies and 1 interview. Fact is, in this area if it aint shop work or factory, it's a taken job. Simple as that. I went to college, got good grades in my Alevels etc, I chose not to go to university (may be a bad decision in a lot of people's eyes but it just was not for me) and have been looking for work since.
It would be great to move, oh wait, you need money to do that.
I'm gonna put my life into this interview tbh, It's not exactly the best job in the world but its better than nothing at all + spack group.
Actually, I just had an idea. If I was to tell them a white lie.. such as "I got the job" (this interview) and drop off the claim. Then hope for the best.. If I get the job, Il be fine. If I don't get the job, just wait a month then make a new claim, would this work? as in would I be put back on a fresh claim? I could just come up with an excuse such as miscuommunication, or that they backed out at the last minute, etc etc.
Would this be worth trying?
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tobycoaster
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| Posted: Fri, 8th Feb 2008 22:38 Post subject: |
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| watergem wrote: |
Actually, I just had an idea. If I was to tell them a white lie.. such as "I got the job" (this interview) and drop off the claim. Then hope for the best.. If I get the job, Il be fine. If I don't get the job, just wait a month then make a new claim, would this work? as in would I be put back on a fresh claim? I could just come up with an excuse such as miscuommunication, or that they backed out at the last minute, etc etc.
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Unfortunatly if you make a new claim within 12 weeks they will just refresh your old claim and its back to new deal, if you claim after 12 weeks its a fresh claim.
New deal is a system thats never gonna work so i really hope you get the job , maybe try and reason with the new deal advisor to put off the spack club untill you get the outcome of the job.  , as far as i know the 6 month interval of new deal is less strict then the 12 month , if you get to 12 months its mandatory spack club , 6 months is not, Maybe like jenni said , get on a course with CSV or go through learn direct , at least then the advisor can see your making an effort and maybe try a different approach then spack club.
Also i dont know if you are aware but all new deal claimants are entitled to a £300 discretionary fund for help with getting work.
Good luck for the job
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Cohen
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Jenni
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| Posted: Fri, 8th Feb 2008 23:26 Post subject: |
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Well I think New Deal would work if people use their brains in what they want.
AM I never said it wasn't about Watergem. What I'm trying to say is you're wrong about people being wasters if they're on the dole after a year.
My mate, ex military, no criminal record, Postman for years, retrained as a lorry driver. However the only black mark he has against him is that he hurt his back in the past. He's fighting fit now, theres nothing wrong with his back. Yet after what 30 interviews since passing his HGV licence he's always been shown the door. He's had interviews for other things too. Customer Service, Transport, bus driver. I could go on and on. But at the end of the day if you have a past injury it takes a lot of convincing that you're fit to be employed now. So that is where your argument is flawed.
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| Posted: Sat, 9th Feb 2008 03:10 Post subject: |
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well he obviously didnt stress enough that hes fighting fit. mayabe he should done a cartwheel into the interview room.
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Jenni
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| Posted: Sat, 9th Feb 2008 03:38 Post subject: |
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He's jumped through enough hoops to get a job.
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| Posted: Sat, 9th Feb 2008 09:55 Post subject: |
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How much do you get for JSA? I signed on once, found out it was like £40. How are you meant to live on that?!
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Cohen
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| Posted: Sun, 10th Feb 2008 02:01 Post subject: |
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I get £94 every two weeks.
Its fine for me since my father doesn't ask for rent..
Im not a waster and i'm not greedy, and one thing is for sure I am not ungrateful. I know how much of a gift it is to have a father like mine, he would never ask me rent to stay at home. Im only 20, so I'm not in any rush to get my own place. This year I just plan to get on my feet again and get myself at least a part time job and a driving liscence. Then next year, I plan on moving up to a better job.
I think at my age I can take an easy year.
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