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Przepraszam
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 Posted: Mon, 31st Dec 2007 05:59 Post subject: Survey about Death Sentence for my project! |
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If you people would be kind enough to answer those couple questions below.
1. Are you male or female?
2. How old are you?
3. Do you support death sentence? yes or no and why?
Thank you.! ^_^
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| Posted: Mon, 31st Dec 2007 06:20 Post subject: |
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- male
- none of your goddamn business
- yeah I support it in cases where people murder in cold blood for sheer profit and or pleasure, if its domestic dispute or a murder that happened for a weird reason and the person doing it showed true remorse after the crimes then no I don't. So basically if you'r scum then you deserve it, jails in US are stacked to the brim anyways, why not put them in a slightly smaller jail that doesn't require access to oxygen:)
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WaldoJ
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| Posted: Mon, 31st Dec 2007 06:48 Post subject: |
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male
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depends on the crime
some vile people out there
for murder i say no unless it's repeated / serial / mass
pedophilia then yes 
i don't like that idea of having people wait for death sentence... once proven guilty... to the gallows >D my tax money ain't gonna pay for no food for murderers and child touchers
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| Posted: Mon, 31st Dec 2007 06:57 Post subject: |
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Female
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No. No state or govern. has the right to take life I think.
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| Posted: Mon, 31st Dec 2007 06:58 Post subject: |
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-male
-20(21 in less than a month)
-I wish the death sentence was more harsh around here. All these kids thinking they can be gangsters by killing someone that had no reason to die. They take someones life, what right do they have of their own.
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| Posted: Mon, 31st Dec 2007 07:18 Post subject: |
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Male
age 32
I do not support the death penalty,
I don't believe it should be left to the judgement of society, the legal system, the government to dictate who has the right to live or die.
Read not to contradict and confute, nor to believe and take for granted, but to weigh and consider.
To the world you may be one person, but to one person you may be the world.
In all your remembering, remember that you have choices
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| Posted: Mon, 31st Dec 2007 07:27 Post subject: |
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Male
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Yes I support it. Someone sick enough to take life (insanity plea or not) doesn't deserve to be able to live out the rest of his, his victim doesn't get to. If anything, they need to shorten the time between sentencing and actual execution.
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| Martian123 wrote: | Male
age 32
I do not support the death penalty,
I don't believe it should be left to the judgement of society, the legal system, the government to dictate who has the right to live or die. |
That's where my delima is. I don't think the legal system has any rights just because people appointed them to. But while they have the power, I don't think someone who kills another should live to see himself age or possibly have freedom again. |
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nouseforaname
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| Posted: Mon, 31st Dec 2007 07:39 Post subject: |
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Male, 27, and no. As long as people like Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld get away with mass-murder, I don't think it should be selectively applied to those who aren't weathy enough to beat the charges.
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SycoShaman
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| Posted: Mon, 31st Dec 2007 17:54 Post subject: |
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Male
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I support the death sentence in only extreme conditions ie serial killers, pedophiles etc
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Parallax_
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| Posted: Mon, 31st Dec 2007 17:56 Post subject: |
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1. male
2. 24
3. I don't support the death sentence, I believe in rehabilitation.
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CaptainCox
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| Posted: Mon, 31st Dec 2007 17:59 Post subject: |
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1. Male
2. Oh well, 42 
3. NO WAY! (exception Rapists, and Child Molesters) should 1st be shot in the knee caps...from BEHIND!
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nouseforaname
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| Posted: Mon, 31st Dec 2007 21:00 Post subject: |
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1. Male
2. 23
3. In extreme cases yes
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| Posted: Mon, 31st Dec 2007 21:00 Post subject: |
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| nouseforaname wrote: | | Male, 27, and no. As long as people like Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld get away with mass-murder, I don't think it should be selectively applied to those who aren't weathy enough to beat the charges. |
two wrongs dont make a right....
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| Posted: Mon, 31st Dec 2007 21:16 Post subject: |
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male
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yes for cold blooded murder
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nouseforaname
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I believe the death sentence should only apply to mass murders and war criminals.
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No, because it's not were mankind should go.
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TheSaint
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| Posted: Tue, 1st Jan 2008 22:04 Post subject: |
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No i dont support it, futher info look at this movie: life of david gale. Or read some books from michell foucault, emile durkheim, or Polak.
The death sentence is kinda weird, there is no punishment. The only punishment is the feeling you have while you are on deathrow (the psycological thing, its unescesary pain, because that wasnt the punishment given). The actuall excecution isnt a punishment, the criminal doesnt feel shit.
If you really wanna make a cool essay check something on the Lex Talionis. And arguments against it.
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CostelD
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| Posted: Tue, 1st Jan 2008 22:12 Post subject: |
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male
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no,i think that prison for life is worse that the death sentence tbh
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Tue, 1st Jan 2008 22:42 Post subject: |
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- Male
- 22
- Don't support it. I too believe in rehabilitation and if all else fails, the perp remains in jail, so he's not a menace to society. I do however support chemical neutering for sex offenders and drug induced sexual depression for pedophiles.
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chiv
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| Posted: Tue, 1st Jan 2008 23:47 Post subject: |
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| TheSaint wrote: | male
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No i dont support it, futher info look at this movie: life of david gale. Or read some books from michell foucault, emile durkheim, or Polak.
The death sentence is kinda weird, there is no punishment. The only punishment is the feeling you have while you are on deathrow (the psycological thing, its unescesary pain, because that wasnt the punishment given). The actuall excecution isnt a punishment, the criminal doesnt feel shit.
If you really wanna make a cool essay check something on the Lex Talionis. And arguments against it. |
death sentence isnt about punishment, its making sure that violent criminals and rapists etc dont have teh chance to do it again - life imprisonment is not a solution, its a waste of resources.
male
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definately support it for murderers, rapists, kidnappers etc... you cant rehabilitate someone who kills another person for money, for fun, for 'respect', out of hate, whatever... if you release them, your basically saying what they did is 'ok' and they'll do it again because they know they wont get punished to any serious degree... and as i said above, life in prison is stupid - leo, you say they arent a menace when in prison, thats not true... its a waste of tax payer dollars that should be better put to use serving the community, not providing a perminant shelter and free food to people who choose to live outside of societies rules... hell... many people in prisons end up living much better and easier lives than they do on the OUTSIDE!!
personally, i wish for a return of gladiator matches in place of death sentances... you like killing? great, weve got a real treat for you... heres a knife, have at him....
to the people saying that society doesnt have the right to say who lives or dies or whatever... no single PERSON has that right either, so why should murderers be granted any additional rights over what they are willing to give to those in society? atleast with them gone, thats one less person who will hurt another.
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TheSaint
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| Posted: Wed, 2nd Jan 2008 12:09 Post subject: |
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| chiv wrote: | | TheSaint wrote: | male
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No i dont support it, futher info look at this movie: life of david gale. Or read some books from michell foucault, emile durkheim, or Polak.
The death sentence is kinda weird, there is no punishment. The only punishment is the feeling you have while you are on deathrow (the psycological thing, its unescesary pain, because that wasnt the punishment given). The actuall excecution isnt a punishment, the criminal doesnt feel shit.
If you really wanna make a cool essay check something on the Lex Talionis. And arguments against it. |
death sentence isnt about punishment, its making sure that violent criminals and rapists etc dont have teh chance to do it again - life imprisonment is not a solution, its a waste of resources.
male
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definately support it for murderers, rapists, kidnappers etc... you cant rehabilitate someone who kills another person for money, for fun, for 'respect', out of hate, whatever... if you release them, your basically saying what they did is 'ok' and they'll do it again because they know they wont get punished to any serious degree... and as i said above, life in prison is stupid - leo, you say they arent a menace when in prison, thats not true... its a waste of tax payer dollars that should be better put to use serving the community, not providing a perminant shelter and free food to people who choose to live outside of societies rules... hell... many people in prisons end up living much better and easier lives than they do on the OUTSIDE!!
personally, i wish for a return of gladiator matches in place of death sentances... you like killing? great, weve got a real treat for you... heres a knife, have at him....
to the people saying that society doesnt have the right to say who lives or dies or whatever... no single PERSON has that right either, so why should murderers be granted any additional rights over what they are willing to give to those in society? atleast with them gone, thats one less person who will hurt another. |
Well killing someone because he killed someone is not correct. The one who executed is a murderer as well and should than be killed aswel etc. You should read the development of punishment, auteur is emile durkheim. It shows that only primitive societies with and absolute power are more likely to do the death punishment. More to show that the power is not the be fucked with, wich in 2008 is way to old standard. We are way better than this. Life in prison isnt a waste of money more than another 50000 things governments do.
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deelix
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| Posted: Wed, 2nd Jan 2008 12:14 Post subject: |
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Its an hard area one deals with. Some people are born pshycos, and will probably never change. But I don't think death sentence is an good ide. There are innocent people killed ever year... well, its the same with jail. The system aint perfect, thats just the say it is. Id have to go for NO, i do not support it.
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chiv
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| Posted: Wed, 2nd Jan 2008 13:13 Post subject: |
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| TheSaint wrote: | | chiv wrote: | | TheSaint wrote: | male
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No i dont support it, futher info look at this movie: life of david gale. Or read some books from michell foucault, emile durkheim, or Polak.
The death sentence is kinda weird, there is no punishment. The only punishment is the feeling you have while you are on deathrow (the psycological thing, its unescesary pain, because that wasnt the punishment given). The actuall excecution isnt a punishment, the criminal doesnt feel shit.
If you really wanna make a cool essay check something on the Lex Talionis. And arguments against it. |
death sentence isnt about punishment, its making sure that violent criminals and rapists etc dont have teh chance to do it again - life imprisonment is not a solution, its a waste of resources.
male
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definately support it for murderers, rapists, kidnappers etc... you cant rehabilitate someone who kills another person for money, for fun, for 'respect', out of hate, whatever... if you release them, your basically saying what they did is 'ok' and they'll do it again because they know they wont get punished to any serious degree... and as i said above, life in prison is stupid - leo, you say they arent a menace when in prison, thats not true... its a waste of tax payer dollars that should be better put to use serving the community, not providing a perminant shelter and free food to people who choose to live outside of societies rules... hell... many people in prisons end up living much better and easier lives than they do on the OUTSIDE!!
personally, i wish for a return of gladiator matches in place of death sentances... you like killing? great, weve got a real treat for you... heres a knife, have at him....
to the people saying that society doesnt have the right to say who lives or dies or whatever... no single PERSON has that right either, so why should murderers be granted any additional rights over what they are willing to give to those in society? atleast with them gone, thats one less person who will hurt another. |
Well killing someone because he killed someone is not correct. The one who executed is a murderer as well and should than be killed aswel etc. You should read the development of punishment, auteur is emile durkheim. It shows that only primitive societies with and absolute power are more likely to do the death punishment. More to show that the power is not the be fucked with, wich in 2008 is way to old standard. We are way better than this. Life in prison isnt a waste of money more than another 50000 things governments do. |
murder and execution are two completely different things... a murderer maliciously and brutally kills someone outside of the law.. an execution is a preventative measure WITHIN the law to stop them from doing it again without creating a burden on the system (ie jail for 50-60 years...) furthermore, execution is, atleast in modern days, done without pain and is done quickly... a murderer revels in the act of killing and causing suffering... two COMPLETELY different things, so no, you cant compare them
you know what? power is NOT to be fucked with... modern society is BASED on power, there needs to be some system that controls us, otherwise everything falls apart... its wishful thinking to believe this isnt true.. human beings are, at heart, nothing more than tidied up savages in nice clothing.. we cant govern ourselves, and without the threat of REAL punishments hanging over our heads, it would be chaos... sorry but no, the human race is NOT better than this, we just think we are...
what the other guy said about the death sentance unfortunately prone to condemning innocent people IS true, and its the only bad aspect of it... but nothing is perfect... but we would be better off with it than without it.
if 2 innocent people a year lost their lives, but 100 murderers were never given a chance to harm innocent people in society... 100 less people who rape women, 100 less people who sexually abuse children... i think thats worth it...
...definately better than telling these people that its 'ok' before releasing them back into the public with little more than a slap on the wrist, and then EXPECTING them to magically change their ways? COME ON!!
i would agree with you that jail is a better idea than death sentences IF the jail system was changed... do you SEE the luxuries these bastards have? 3 decent meals a day, excercise, television, ability to hang out with other criminals and make contacts, chances at every turn to continue to do illegal activities INSIDE the prisons... a pretty freakin sweet reward for rape and murder isnt it... you change the system so that prisoners are confined to their cells for 23 hours a day, with 1 hour of walking excercise in the yard, in cells that were 6 feet by 6 feet, with no personal effects allowed - you know.. like how these savage animals DESERVE to live, THEN ill agree that prison is better than death sentance... but no... at the moment, the prison systems are nice rewards for horrible crimes.
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TheSaint
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| Posted: Wed, 2nd Jan 2008 13:55 Post subject: |
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death sentence isnt about punishment, its making sure that violent criminals and rapists etc dont have teh chance to do it again - life imprisonment is not a solution, its a waste of resources. |
Yeah correct, thats the whole problem, it isnt a punishment. Criminal law is based on punishing on one hand. But preventing on the other side. If you know you would be executed if you kill someone, you have a license to kill when you are suicidal.
Prison isnt a luxuary, have you ever been in one? Its okey if you are in 1 week, 1 year is already killing.
I dont think your statement that 2 innocent people arent that bad if 100 murderers are killed. Perhaps think your father or brother is innocent and killed, would you say, well its okey as long as 100 murderers are killed? Have you btw seen The Life of David gale?
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0289992/
You should check it out.
Btw im not with you when you say modern society is based on POWER. Its based on democratie. Primitive societies are based on power, and continuing the power of the head.
http://www.amazon.com/Emile-Durkheim-Crime-Punishment-Exegesis/dp/1581121547
Perhaps you can read that book (if you want to).
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deelix
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What is going on in Iran and China is fucking sick... you can steal GASOLINE and get killed in China.
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chiv
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| TheSaint wrote: | | Quote: |
death sentence isnt about punishment, its making sure that violent criminals and rapists etc dont have teh chance to do it again - life imprisonment is not a solution, its a waste of resources. |
Yeah correct, thats the whole problem, it isnt a punishment. Criminal law is based on punishing on one hand. But preventing on the other side. If you know you would be executed if you kill someone, you have a license to kill when you are suicidal.
Prison isnt a luxuary, have you ever been in one? Its okey if you are in 1 week, 1 year is already killing.
I dont think your statement that 2 innocent people arent that bad if 100 murderers are killed. Perhaps think your father or brother is innocent and killed, would you say, well its okey as long as 100 murderers are killed? Have you btw seen The Life of David gale?
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0289992/
You should check it out.
Btw im not with you when you say modern society is based on POWER. Its based on democratie. Primitive societies are based on power, and continuing the power of the head.
http://www.amazon.com/Emile-Durkheim-Crime-Punishment-Exegesis/dp/1581121547
Perhaps you can read that book (if you want to). |
by power i mean control... society can only exist when 'someone' (either individual or elected body) controls and shapes it through use of power it has over the people...
i did assume someone would bring up the 'what if it was you or your family' question in the issue of sacrificing innocents to deal with criminals, etc, but like i said... the system ISNT perfect, im not saying any innocents are a GOOD sacrifice, my point was that the RISK to innocent peole is insignificant to the GOOD that the death sentance does in ridding society of highly dangerous people.
again, by prison = luxury, im not talking about luxury as in a hotel or something , but compared to the lifestyles that many people who COMMIT murders originally led on the outside, it is definately an acceptable, sometimes preferable, living situation for them..., and especially in american prisons with all their human rights bullshit... prisons need to be harder on criminals that much is for certain. |
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Jenni
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The trouble with the death is it isn't a deterrent. Most murders are done in the heat of the moment.
It doesn't just punish the guilty it punishes the innocent too. Take Mr average who goes off his head and kills someone in the heat of the moment. His kids are being punished when daddy is killed for his crime.
It's a penalty that cannot be reversed. Take that Scottish guy that's getting out of death row after 20 years. He came within an hour of it being carried out and people say that it's painless. Absolutely rubbish. Theres been hundreds of botched executions.
Even famous murderers like John Wayne Gacey.
I've said this more than once, but put people who else would have been on death row in secure employment with any monies made going to the victims families.
No, a society cannot be judged truely civilised when they have death on the statute books. That turns people in the prison service into life takers. They too will have as much blood on their hands as the people they're killing.
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