All GeForce 8 Cards to Gain PhysX Engine Support Says NVIDIA
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streetunder




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PostPosted: Fri, 15th Feb 2008 02:06    Post subject: All GeForce 8 Cards to Gain PhysX Engine Support Says NVIDIA
All GeForce 8 Cards to Gain PhysX Engine Support Says NVIDIA


"Video card giant NVIDIA, which completed the acquisition of AGEIA Technologies the day before, is now starting to port AGEIA's PhysX engine software to run on its GeForce 8 cards, according to The Tech Report. During a financial call, NVIDIA CEO Jen-Hseun Huang revealed that the ported engine will bring enhanced physics capabilities to all of the company's existing GeForce 8 cards.


We're working toward the physics-engine-to-CUDA port as we speak. And we intend to throw a lot of resources at it. You know, I wouldn't be surprised if it helps our GPU sales even in advance of [the port's completion]. The reason is, [it's] just gonna be a software download. Every single GPU that is CUDA-enabled will be able to run the physics engine when it comes... Every one of our GeForce 8-series GPUs runs CUDA.


Huang also added that the integration shall encourage people to spend more on graphics processing hardware, and maybe start to buy two or three graphics cards, where one of them will work for physics only."

Nice news indeed.
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PostPosted: Fri, 15th Feb 2008 02:12    Post subject: Re: All GeForce 8 Cards to Gain PhysX Engine Support Says NV
streetunder wrote:

Huang also added that the integration shall encourage people to spend more on graphics processing hardware, and maybe start to buy two or three graphics cards, where one of them will work for physics only."


Great, doesn't that defeat the whole purpose. If we have to buy a separate graphics card solely for physics management it's just the same as buying an Ageia card.


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PostPosted: Fri, 15th Feb 2008 02:30    Post subject: Re: All GeForce 8 Cards to Gain PhysX Engine Support Says NV
AnimalMother wrote:
streetunder wrote:

Huang also added that the integration shall encourage people to spend more on graphics processing hardware, and maybe start to buy two or three graphics cards, where one of them will work for physics only."


Great, doesn't that defeat the whole purpose. If we have to buy a separate graphics card solely for physics management it's just the same as buying an Ageia card.

Sure it is, but now it's nvidia selling physx cards but marketed as multi function gpu's instead, the so called extreme gamers and ditto system builders will jump on this bandwagon in no time.
It's called marketing and Nvidia is really good at it.
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PostPosted: Fri, 15th Feb 2008 02:46    Post subject:
The day i spend more money than i could get selling a kidney on the black market on a second graphics card just to get an infinitesimally small increase in performance is the day Adolf Hitler rises from the dead and sucks my cock.
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PostPosted: Fri, 15th Feb 2008 02:47    Post subject:
I think this is really great! This is what I first saw CUDA (when it comes to gaming, obviously).
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PostPosted: Fri, 15th Feb 2008 07:03    Post subject:
Serben wrote:
The day i spend more money than i could get selling a kidney on the black market on a second graphics card just to get an infinitesimally small increase in performance is the day Adolf Hitler rises from the dead and sucks my cock.


So you pretty much dream about this every night then?

Nvidia is actually giving people a nice chance to customize their computers. As you don't have to buy new cards if you already have a second 8800 - you can try it out without spending more money. Who knows, might be a nice suprise?


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PostPosted: Fri, 15th Feb 2008 09:31    Post subject:
Actually Crossfire scales pretty damn well, near 50%. So I don't see how that is an Infinitesimially small increase.

Whether or not it's worth it though is another issue.
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PostPosted: Fri, 15th Feb 2008 09:35    Post subject:
This is basically the same concept as Havok FX (physics rendering on GPUs) and PhysX. But if there is no cheap solution and developers don't massively adopt it, it is completely worthless. The most viable solution seems to be physics rendering on a multiple core system.


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PostPosted: Fri, 15th Feb 2008 14:11    Post subject:
A GF8 card isn't even good enough to run all DX10 games perfectly - how should they also calculate physics?? Does that mean instead of 19 fps DX10 performance you will get 11 fps (on a high-end card of course)? Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Fri, 15th Feb 2008 14:26    Post subject:
No DX10 game has support for Ageia's crap, so don't worry about them. It's good for the games out now.

Besides, I seriously think their physics engine is just not optimized well.
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PostPosted: Fri, 15th Feb 2008 14:50    Post subject:
Weedo wrote:
A GF8 card isn't even good enough to run all DX10 games perfectly - how should they also calculate physics?? Does that mean instead of 19 fps DX10 performance you will get 11 fps (on a high-end card of course)? Rolling Eyes


Actually, you need two to get any difference - so you wont exactly notice any difference in fps if you assign one to physics anyway.


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PostPosted: Fri, 15th Feb 2008 16:07    Post subject:
Laughing I wonder what happened to Geforce 8 Havok integration ... looks like they forgot about it
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PostPosted: Fri, 15th Feb 2008 16:22    Post subject:
Well, seeing as nVidia didn't buy Havok (like the talks back then suggested), they settled for the next "best" thing.
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PostPosted: Sat, 16th Feb 2008 00:11    Post subject:
Weedo wrote:
A GF8 card isn't even good enough to run all DX10 games perfectly - how should they also calculate physics?? Does that mean instead of 19 fps DX10 performance you will get 11 fps (on a high-end card of course)? Rolling Eyes


Actually that is just a quickly drawn conclusion, false of course, someone gets from seeing benchmarks from games with slapped-on dx10 features. In reality, there are No dx10 games yet. Like a developer said from the 3dmark team, they are working on the very first true dx10 benchmark/game which takes a lot of effort because the api is pretty different to design for it from the ground-up.

Anyways yeah the hype was def overblown and expectations way too high but I just wanted to clarify since just because games go at a crawl with some poor efforts to throw in dx10 features, the cards themselves are weaksauce, which just isn't true.


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