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hercules18




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PostPosted: Fri, 11th Jan 2008 20:37    Post subject: Oxygen generator...

http://www.electronichealing.co.uk/products/obox_oxygen_generator.htm

Im thinking about buying oxygen generator, to get pure O2 everyday... Very Happy It has many benefits to the brain and the rest of the body, but im not sure which one to choose Confused
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PostPosted: Fri, 11th Jan 2008 20:47    Post subject:
its a waste of money just like those stupid oxygen bars...
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It should be noted that when inhaling normal air (21% oxygen), a healthy human body will, on average, exhale 14% oxygen, absorbing only 5% of the inhaled oxygen

youll probably just exhale 93% oxygen Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri, 11th Jan 2008 20:48    Post subject:
How ridiculous.


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PostPosted: Fri, 11th Jan 2008 21:01    Post subject:
snop1050 wrote:
its a waste of money just like those stupid oxygen bars...
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It should be noted that when inhaling normal air (21% oxygen), a healthy human body will, on average, exhale 14% oxygen, absorbing only 5% of the inhaled oxygen

youll probably just exhale 93% oxygen Laughing


Still, you'll get more oxgen than normal. Like 15min in morning and 15before workout and 15 befor sleep... It relaxes the body and the brain...

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PostPosted: Fri, 11th Jan 2008 21:06    Post subject:
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Die? From too much oxygen? But wouldn't I just exhale the oxygen I don' t need?

Y: Ironically, too much oxygen actually inhibits ventilation and ends up slowing down the delivery of oxygen to your body's tissues. Another problem is that certain tissues, like the lining of the lungs and the walls of the arteries, are very sensitive to oxygen. The cornea is also very sensitive to oxygen, and you may have heard of people who have gone blind because, as newborns, the oxygen levels in their incubators were too high.


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PostPosted: Fri, 11th Jan 2008 21:27    Post subject:
it will come in handy when they start selling actual O2, otherwise just like buying software Razz
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PostPosted: Fri, 11th Jan 2008 22:33    Post subject:
Jenni wrote:
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Die? From too much oxygen? But wouldn't I just exhale the oxygen I don' t need?

Y: Ironically, too much oxygen actually inhibits ventilation and ends up slowing down the delivery of oxygen to your body's tissues. Another problem is that certain tissues, like the lining of the lungs and the walls of the arteries, are very sensitive to oxygen. The cornea is also very sensitive to oxygen, and you may have heard of people who have gone blind because, as newborns, the oxygen levels in their incubators were too high.


On the other hand oxygen is acutely toxic to anaerobix bacteria, so it can be used to treat some types of infections like fournier's gangrene, it speeds up woundhealing, it helps cure sudden deafness, influences stroke recovery, etc.
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PostPosted: Fri, 11th Jan 2008 22:53    Post subject:
yeah, it does have specific health uses, although none are for the casual user ...

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For diabetes patients foot problems are the number one cause of hospital admissions. It's estimated that 25% of diabetes patients develop foot problems and one in 15 requires amputation during their lifetime.

Drs. Ted Sosiak and Wayne Evans make a shocking claim in the Ontario Medical Review. They say that HBOT could save up to 75% of the more than 2,160 amputations that occur every year in Ontario due to diabetic foot ulcers that will not heal. And that HBOT treatment could save $100 million and the costs of chronic disability caused by amputation.

But how could HBOT end this tragedy? The air we normally breath contains from 19 to 21% oxygen. This is enough to keep us alive. But it's not sufficient to cure diabetic ulcers desperately in need of oxygen.

Hyperbaric oxygen therapy provides pure oxygen to speed up and enhance the body's natural ability to heal. It's more than a mere whiff of oxygen. By using HBOT the concentration of oxygen normally dissolved in the bloodstream is raised by as much as 2000 per cent.

It's not just blood that benefits from HBOT. Body fluids such as lymph and cerebrospinal fluids are infused with the healing benefits of increased oxygen.

Pure oxygen also reaches bone and tissues that are inaccessible to red blood cells, and helps to increase white cell production and the formation of new peripheral blood vessels.

This results in increased infection control and faster healing.

The benefit of HBOT is not limited to saving legs. A report in The New England Journal Of Medicine claims that HBOT should be the standard treatment for those suffering from acute carbon monoxide poisoning, the leading cause of injury and death due to poisoning worldwide.

It's also estimated that between four and 14% of cancer patients who are treated by radiation will develop radiation injury and delayed healing. This can occur in patients treated for prostate cancer who develop radiation proctitis and cystitis. Or when the jaw bone fails to heal after radiation. HBOT could speed up healing in these cases.

This therapy can also be of value for patients with severe burns, brain abscess, flesh-eating disease and skin grafts that are not healing well.

http://chealth.canoe.ca/channel_health_news_details.asp?news_id=15379&news_channel_id=143&channel_id=143


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PostPosted: Fri, 11th Jan 2008 22:59    Post subject:
Gonna buy one and have my doctor gives me instructions on how much i should get everyday... Cool
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PostPosted: Fri, 11th Jan 2008 23:12    Post subject:
BRAIN ACTIVITY – Dr Andrew Scholey, Division of Psychology, University of Northumbria : Extra Oxygen has been shown to enhance mental performance and memory recall in healthy active adults in several clinical studies.
Ref. PMID: 10604851 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

"In all serious disease states we find a concomitant low oxygen state...Low oxygen in the body tissues is a sure indicator for disease... Hypoxia, or lack of oxygen in the tissues, is the fundamental cause for all degenerative disease."
Dr. Stephen Levine, Renowned Molecular Biologist Author, Oxygen Deficiency: A Concomitant to All Degenerative Illness

"Starved of oxygen the body will become ill, and if this persists it will die. I doubt if there is any argument about that."
Dr. John Muntz, Nutritional Scientist

"Cancer has only one prime cause. It is the replacement of normal oxygen respiration of the body's cells by an anaerobic (ie., oxygen-deficient) cell respiration."
Dr. Otto Warburg , Two-time Nobel Laureate Winner of the Nobel Prize for Cancer Research

"An insufficient supply of oxygen to the tissues is linked with such serious conditions as heart disease, anemia, acute poisonings, etc. Many scientists believe that a periodic lack of oxygen must be held responsible for the formation of cancer cells, thus being one of the causes of cancer."
Dr. Paavo Airola, Are You Confused?

"Insufficient oxygen means insufficient biological energy that can result in anything from mild fatigue to life threatening disease. The link between insufficient oxygen and disease has now been firmly established."
Dr. W. Spencer Way , Journal of the American Association of Physicians

"Chronic oxygen deficiency in tissues is connected with coronary disease and heart attacks."
Dr. Paavo Airola, Are You Confused?

"Dr. Parris Kidd stated that 'Oxygen plays a pivotal role in the proper functioning of the immune system; i.e. resistance to disease, bacteria and viruses.' Dr. Stephen Levine stated that 'We can look at oxygen deficiency as the single greatest cause of disease.' thus the development of a shortage of oxygen in the blood could very well be the starting point for the loss of the immune system and the beginning of feared health problems such as cancer, leukemia, AIDS, candida, seizures, and nerve deterioration."
B. Goulet, The Magic of Aerobic Oxygen, Focus on Nutrition

"big cities have poor air - there has been a real decrease in the amount of oxygen in the air"
Dr Richard Dixon, Head of Research, Friends of the Earth, Sunday Herald, 1999
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PostPosted: Sat, 12th Jan 2008 00:03    Post subject:
Um. Get some flowers for you room and open the window at night. That's it Very Happy you won't die in your sleep and in the day you'll get a shit load of o2 Very Happy


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PostPosted: Sat, 12th Jan 2008 02:56    Post subject:
You do realise that the oxygen will disperse as soon as it leaves the generator and there will be minimal absorption under standard atmospheric pressure. You'll get almost no benefit from it.

What Nouse quoted is referencing hyperbaric oxygen treatment which is a completely different thing and requires a pressurized chamber. That is what provides the benefits, not this commercial shit.


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PostPosted: Sat, 12th Jan 2008 03:15    Post subject:
hercules18 wrote:
Gonna buy one and have my doctor gives me instructions on how much i should get everyday... Cool


lol imagine getting that thing and having heart attack next day or accidently hit by a bus Laughing

just spend that money on something usefull or just have fun, what are u 60 yo Razz
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PostPosted: Sat, 12th Jan 2008 03:28    Post subject:
Mortibus wrote:


just spend that money on something usefull or just have fun, what are u 60 yo Razz


He must be trying to compensate for something, such as feelings of fatigue or general malaise.

Fair enough that he wants to do something about it, you never know if your quality of life could be improved by something simple. But this is just a waste of money.


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PostPosted: Sat, 12th Jan 2008 04:02    Post subject:
Hercules18 , are you a smoker ?

That's a good place to start !
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PostPosted: Sat, 12th Jan 2008 04:12    Post subject:
VGAdeadcafe wrote:
Hercules18 , are you a smoker ?

That's a good place to start !


I started smoking for about 1 year and a half, i was stupid...actually _"Still" stupid. I've been to my doc he said your lungs is 100% fine, but if you keep smoking they will be damaged, so thats why the thoghut of having pure O2 and start working out like i used to came to my head...
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PostPosted: Tue, 15th Jan 2008 01:40    Post subject:
oxygen? heh

nitrous oxide...thats the shit ya gotta get Smile


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PostPosted: Tue, 15th Jan 2008 02:01    Post subject:
just quit smoking and be active.
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PostPosted: Tue, 15th Jan 2008 02:15    Post subject:
pistolshrimp wrote:
just quit smoking and be active.


you know, thats easier said than done. The smoking, obviously but the active part.

I dont have anyone to workout with or go hiking with and stuff thats why i dont do it. Sucks going for a jog or for a long walk by yourself.
I find having someone with me motivates me


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PostPosted: Tue, 15th Jan 2008 02:19    Post subject:
I gave up on finding gym partners. I work out better on my own and talk to more people because of it. Hiking is cool with a larger dog too.

I know quitting anything is really hard but it is easier when you are young. If someone is motivated to buy a machine to help them breath they can buy the smoking patch instead. It is a waste of money but want to be healthier is solid. He is young too so he has a good chance of quitting.
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pistolshrimp wrote:
I gave up on finding gym partners. I work out better on my own and talk to more people because of it. Hiking is cool with a larger dog too.

I know quitting anything is really hard but it is easier when you are young. If someone is motivated to buy a machine to help them breath they can buy the smoking patch instead. It is a waste of money but want to be healthier is solid. He is young too so he has a good chance of quitting.


I think Im gunna seriously try to quit after my birthday this year.
Been smoking for a long time now...need to quit. And Id prolly feel better if I did. More energy and stuff


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PostPosted: Tue, 15th Jan 2008 02:27    Post subject:
Yes you would have more energy. A red blood cell lives in the body for 3 months. If you smoke carbon mono. plugs up the oxygen carying capacity and that never clears in the life of a blood cell. The color of the blood of a smoker is a different color as well. It is quite a bit darker. 3 months in the magic number. Plus all the chemical shit they use in the making of cigs.
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PostPosted: Tue, 15th Jan 2008 02:35    Post subject:
Its just hard cause i like smoking. Its relaxing.
Too bad its so bad for you

You think they could make toxin free cigarettes.


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PostPosted: Tue, 15th Jan 2008 02:53    Post subject:
Why make cigarettes that won't make you addicted? why would you continue to smoke? how would they make their billiions?


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PostPosted: Tue, 15th Jan 2008 20:09    Post subject:
SycoShaman wrote:
oxygen? heh

nitrous oxide...thats the shit ya gotta get Smile


I'll get them both, believe me... Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed, 16th Jan 2008 00:33    Post subject:
ROFL at this invention. Ridiculous!


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PostPosted: Wed, 16th Jan 2008 23:00    Post subject:
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ROFL at this invention. Ridiculous!



but people will want to buy it. Because it makes them think they will feel better.
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