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Reg67




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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Jan 2008 07:30    Post subject: What is "Britishness?"
What does it mean to be British? I'm asking ths cos of the many threads (mainly in the world news section) concerning the way us Brits have lost our identity and are turning into a Muslim mini state.

So this question is for the Brits on here, we all know there are ridicuous stereotypes for nearly all races across the globe.
I'm sure many of these you will have heard:

British = Cold,stiff upper lips,restrained,unfriendly (bullshit)

French = Garlic eating cowards,with no backbone (bullshit)

Americans = Fat stupid violent warlike idiots with no idea there is a world outside of the U.S (bullshit)


etc etc etc

Of course these sterotypes apply to some of these people, and of course to people the world over.

So enough babbling to all those who post in the world news section complaining about Red Ken and no-go Muslim ghettos in the U.K.

What have we lost?

What is this "Britishness" that we hold so dear and are in fear of losing forever?

Personally I think people are the same the world over, there are dickheads in every corner of the globe and we cannot differentiate because of someones religion,colour,facial features etc.

However I do sometimes feel like a stranger in my own country and this is a bad thing for me, because I consider myself very open-minded and I embrace diversity. (cliche i know) Smile

So post if you have a mind to and explain what it is thats at risk and what we stand to lose.. Smile
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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Jan 2008 09:43    Post subject: Re: What is "Britishness?"
Reg67 wrote:
However I do sometimes feel like a stranger in my own country and this is a bad thing for me, because I consider myself very open-minded and I embrace diversity. (cliche i know) Smile


You have no idea, I work in Slough. Im outnumbered in race/nationality/religion 20-1 and this is my country. Not that its a bad thing.

At least we still have our sarcasm and wit, eh?
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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Jan 2008 19:24    Post subject:
if you could pick one well known person (doesnt mean some nobhead celeb) who you think most represents what it means to be british who would you pick? maybe it could get intresting
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Reg67




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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Jan 2008 19:46    Post subject:
snop1050 wrote:
if you could pick one well known person (doesnt mean some nobhead celeb) who you think most represents what it means to be british who would you pick? maybe it could get intresting


Hmm I would say John Cleese playing Basil Fawlty in Fawlty towers - probably not many people on here who would remember that prog Smile

Or maybe Ronnie Barker in Porrige and Open all hours
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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Jan 2008 19:55    Post subject:
i'd say hugh grant adhere's to british stereotype

if anything britain is an extra state of america through it's politics, it's not an islamic mini-state by any means, there are communities here and there but the country is still predominantly full of white people and statistics would reflect this..
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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Jan 2008 20:02    Post subject:
suicid4l wrote:
it's not an islamic mini-state by any means, there are communities here and there but the country is still predominantly full of white people and statistics would reflect this..


indeed they would ...


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demography_of_England#Ethnicity

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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Jan 2008 20:13    Post subject:
Being British,

Being British is about driving in a German car to an Irish
pub for a Belgian beer, then travelling home, grabbing an Indian curry or a
Turkish kebab on the way, to sit on Swedish furniture and watch American
shows on a Japanese TV.
And then most British thing of all? Suspicion of all things foreign!

Only in Britain can a pizza get to your house faster than
an ambulance.

Only in Britain do supermarkets make sick people walk all the
way to the back of the shop to get their prescriptions while healthy people
can buy cigarettes at the front.

Only in Britain do people order double cheeseburgers, large fries and a DIET coke.

Only in Britain do banks leave both doors open and chain the pens to the counters.

Only in Britain do we leave cars worth thousands of pounds on the drive and lock our
junk and cheap lawn mower in the garage.

Only in Britain do we use answering machines to screen calls and then havecall waiting so we won't miss a call
from someone we didn't want to talk toin the first place.

Only in Britain are there disabled parking places in front of a skating rink.

Laughing This was taken from a clan forum that im part of.

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gingerninjaaaaaa
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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Jan 2008 20:15    Post subject: Re: What is "Britishness?"
Reg67 wrote:
What does it mean to be British? I'm asking ths cos of the many threads (mainly in the world news section) concerning the way us Brits have lost our identity and are turning into a Muslim mini state.

So this question is for the Brits on here, we all know there are ridicuous stereotypes for nearly all races across the globe.
I'm sure many of these you will have heard:

British = Cold,stiff upper lips,restrained,unfriendly (bullshit)

French = Garlic eating cowards,with no backbone (bullshit)

Americans = Fat stupid violent warlike idiots with no idea there is a world outside of the U.S (bullshit)


etc etc etc

Of course these sterotypes apply to some of these people, and of course to people the world over.

So enough babbling to all those who post in the world news section complaining about Red Ken and no-go Muslim ghettos in the U.K.

What have we lost?

What is this "Britishness" that we hold so dear and are in fear of losing forever?

Personally I think people are the same the world over, there are dickheads in every corner of the globe and we cannot differentiate because of someones religion,colour,facial features etc.

However I do sometimes feel like a stranger in my own country and this is a bad thing for me, because I consider myself very open-minded and I embrace diversity. (cliche i know) Smile

So post if you have a mind to and explain what it is thats at risk and what we stand to lose.. Smile


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British = Cold,stiff upper lips,restrained,unfriendly (bullshit)

French = Garlic eating cowards,with no backbone (bullshit)

Americans = Fat stupid violent warlike idiots with no idea there is a world outside of the U.S (bullshit)-Very true Razz

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Being British,

Being British is about driving in a German car to an Irish
pub for a Belgian beer, then travelling home, grabbing an Indian curry or a
Turkish kebab on the way, to sit on Swedish furniture and watch American
shows on a Japanese TV.
And then most British thing of all? Suspicion of all things foreign!

Only in Britain can a pizza get to your house faster than
an ambulance.

Only in Britain do supermarkets make sick people walk all the
way to the back of the shop to get their prescriptions while healthy people
can buy cigarettes at the front.

Only in Britain do people order double cheeseburgers, large fries and a DIET coke.

Only in Britain do banks leave both doors open and chain the pens to the counters.

Only in Britain do we leave cars worth thousands of pounds on the drive and lock our
junk and cheap lawn mower in the garage.

Only in Britain do we use answering machines to screen calls and then havecall waiting so we won't miss a call
from someone we didn't want to talk toin the first place.

Only in Britain are there disabled parking places in front of a skating rink.

Laughing This was taken from a clan forum that im part of.


Haha Laughing
Very good and true at the same time.


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gingerninjaaaaaa
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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Jan 2008 20:18    Post subject:
nouseforaname wrote:
suicid4l wrote:
it's not an islamic mini-state by any means, there are communities here and there but the country is still predominantly full of white people and statistics would reflect this..


indeed they would ...


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demography_of_England#Ethnicity

Maybe in 2005 but they've quadrupled like fly's round shit since.
I'd say now there near the 10 million mark.
Soon us whites will be the minority in our country maybe 20-30 years Sad
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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Jan 2008 20:30    Post subject:
If anything it's the polish population and the number of people from other eu countries that has increased since those figures were released..

This site is going crazy on the whole muslim thing whether it's from an israeli/palestinian point of view or otherwise Confused
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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Jan 2008 20:43    Post subject:
gingerninjaaaaaa wrote:
Maybe in 2005 but they've quadrupled like fly's round shit since.
I'd say now there near the 10 million mark.
Soon us whites will be the minority in our country maybe 20-30 years Sad


you are insane. the most recent stats put britain's immigration at about ~180-200K per year ... so it is an impossibility for it to have changed that much.

here's a fancy new word you should learn: xenophobe

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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Jan 2008 20:52    Post subject:
nouseforaname wrote:
gingerninjaaaaaa wrote:
Maybe in 2005 but they've quadrupled like fly's round shit since.
I'd say now there near the 10 million mark.
Soon us whites will be the minority in our country maybe 20-30 years Sad


you are insane. the most recent stats put britain's immigration at about ~180-200K per year ... so it is an impossibility for it to have changed that much.

here's a fancy new word you should learn: xenophobe

I am insain?
You are Canadian ,you are not from the uk.
You do not see the numbers i see on a daily basis.
So 180-220k (the government says Rolling Eyes )Way more.
Don't forget the BRITTISH musl;ims that already live here.There are many many parts that are Muslim areas with none other then Muslims in them areas.
So before you go on with you're "INSAIN" comments , don't comment on what you know very little of seeing how you don't even come from the uk.
You don't see what us britts see simple.
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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Jan 2008 20:59    Post subject:
that stat includes all british and non-british asians, so again you are full of shit. I think you read 'The Sun' too much Wink

oh, and we have idiots exactly like you here that go on with the same tired bullshit Wink

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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Jan 2008 21:07    Post subject:
nouseforaname wrote:
that stat includes all british and non-british asians, so again you are full of shit. I think you read 'The Sun' too much Wink

Maybe you've been on them pro Muslim sites too much eh?
seeing how I've been reading the sun too much which i hardly do.
oh, and we have idiots exactly like you here that go on with the same tired bullshit Wink

You may think I'm talking bullshit as i think you're talking bullshit too.
So i see no problem just that we have different opinions.
That's right everyone is an idiot except you and you're point of view is always correct isn't it Wink
If nobody agrees with you're statement there an "idiot" just like you called me. Rolling Eyes


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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Jan 2008 21:11    Post subject:
gingerninjaaaaaa wrote:
nouseforaname wrote:
that stat includes all british and non-british asians, so again you are full of shit. I think you read 'The Sun' too much Wink

oh, and we have idiots exactly like you here that go on with the same tired bullshit Wink

You may think I'm talking bullshit as i think you're talking bullshit too.
So i see no problem just that we have different opinions.
That's right everyone is an idiot except you and you're point of view is always correct isn't it Wink
If nobody agrees with you're statement there an "idiot" just like you called me. Rolling Eyes


your claim that 7.8 million muslim immigrants entered the UK in the last 2 years is what makes you an idiot.

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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Jan 2008 21:12    Post subject:
nouseforaname wrote:
gingerninjaaaaaa wrote:
nouseforaname wrote:
that stat includes all british and non-british asians, so again you are full of shit. I think you read 'The Sun' too much Wink

oh, and we have idiots exactly like you here that go on with the same tired bullshit Wink

You may think I'm talking bullshit as i think you're talking bullshit too.
So i see no problem just that we have different opinions.
That's right everyone is an idiot except you and you're point of view is always correct isn't it Wink
If nobody agrees with you're statement there an "idiot" just like you called me. Rolling Eyes


your claim that 7.8 million muslim immigrants entered the UK in the last 2 years is what makes you an idiot.

I did not claim there was 7.8 million immigrants in the last 2 years wtf are you going on about?


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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Jan 2008 21:14    Post subject:
gingerninjaaaaaa wrote:
nouseforaname wrote:
gingerninjaaaaaa wrote:

You may think I'm talking bullshit as i think you're talking bullshit too.
So i see no problem just that we have different opinions.
That's right everyone is an idiot except you and you're point of view is always correct isn't it Wink
If nobody agrees with you're statement there an "idiot" just like you called me. Rolling Eyes


your claim that 7.8 million muslim immigrants entered the UK in the last 2 years is what makes you an idiot.

I did not claim there was 7.5 million immigrants in the last 2 years wtf are you going on about?


Rolling Eyes don't play stupid.

I posted a stat from 2005 that said there were 2.2 million people of asian ancestry in the UK, you said 'it's more like 10 million now'.

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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Jan 2008 21:17    Post subject:
nouseforaname wrote:
gingerninjaaaaaa wrote:
nouseforaname wrote:


your claim that 7.8 million muslim immigrants entered the UK in the last 2 years is what makes you an idiot.

I did not claim there was 7.5 million immigrants in the last 2 years wtf are you going on about?


Rolling Eyes don't play stupid.

I posted a stat from 2005 that said there were 2.2 million people of asian ancestry in the UK, you said 'it's more like 10 million now'.

Yes 10 millon asian(born here)plus immigrants.You're point is what?
Maybe not 10 million but It's far far more then the 2.2 million it said in what you linked.
You are Canadian as I've said reading some document,I've plus many more Britts have 1st hand expeiriance so you can't say nothing seeing as you don't see it.
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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Jan 2008 21:20    Post subject:
Tea, scones and snooker Smile
And I think English is the most beautiful language in the world. I could listen to it all day Smile
Too bad I can't get BBC Sport Sad
I want snooker with brittish commentators
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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Jan 2008 21:21    Post subject:
gingerninjaaaaaa wrote:
nouseforaname wrote:
gingerninjaaaaaa wrote:

I did not claim there was 7.5 million immigrants in the last 2 years wtf are you going on about?


Rolling Eyes don't play stupid.

I posted a stat from 2005 that said there were 2.2 million people of asian ancestry in the UK, you said 'it's more like 10 million now'.

Yes 10 millon asian(born here)plus immigrants.You're point is what?
Maybe not 10 million but It's far far more then the 2.2 million it said in what you linked.
You are Canadian as I've said reading some document,I've plus many more Britts have 1st hand expeiriance so you can't say nothing seeing as you don't see it.


I'd trust the UK Office for National Statistics Census over a bigoted fool like you any day Wink

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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Jan 2008 21:25    Post subject:
nouseforaname wrote:
gingerninjaaaaaa wrote:
nouseforaname wrote:


Rolling Eyes don't play stupid.

I posted a stat from 2005 that said there were 2.2 million people of asian ancestry in the UK, you said 'it's more like 10 million now'.

Yes 10 millon asian(born here)plus immigrants.You're point is what?
Maybe not 10 million but It's far far more then the 2.2 million it said in what you linked.
You are Canadian as I've said reading some document,I've plus many more Britts have 1st hand expeiriance so you can't say nothing seeing as you don't see it.


I'd trust the UK Office for National Statistics Census over a bigoted fool like you any day Wink

Lol you can only come back to insults Wink
You know I'm right "YOU" are wrong leave it as that eh?
I'll ask this question to all the Britts on nforce see what they think?
Is there More Muslims(Brittish Muslims included)aswell as other Muslims,Is there more then 2.2 million of them in Brittain now in you're opinion?
Give an estimate.

Quote:
I'd trust the UK Office for National Statistics Census over a bigoted fool like you any day Wink

You're the type of gullible idiot who would support President Bush on thinking that he's not a war monger and is doing a great job in America arn't you.


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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Jan 2008 21:26    Post subject:
I wouldn't trust any national office when it's being managed by Labour.
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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Jan 2008 21:27    Post subject:
I would say far more than 2.2 million.
Look at Bradford. So many different ethnics there the street signs are in Arabic.
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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Jan 2008 21:28    Post subject:
suicid4l wrote:
i'd say hugh grant adhere's to british stereotype

if anything britain is an extra state of america through it's politics, it's not an islamic mini-state by any means, there are communities here and there but the country is still predominantly full of white people and statistics would reflect this..


Hugh Grant was the first one that popped into my head too.
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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Jan 2008 21:32    Post subject:
Jenni wrote:
I would say far more than 2.2 million.
Look at Bradford. So many different ethnics there the street signs are in Arabic.
Smile

Exactly Jenni well said finally who has seen it themselves instead of some Canadian dimwit going on as if he knows more about the uk then a Britt living here
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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Jan 2008 21:34    Post subject:
yes, sitting in a chair I'm sure the lot of you can do a better job than a national census Rolling Eyes

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British for me is driving on the wrong side of the road and people speaking with weird accents Wink
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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Jan 2008 21:38    Post subject:
Well the census won't include illegal immigrants. It won't include people who have missed or not filled in the census forms.

As for trusting Labour run national offices and ministries.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7197045.stm
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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Jan 2008 21:45    Post subject:
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yes, sitting in a chair I'm sure the lot of you can do a better job than a national census Rolling Eyes

Nouse you don't know shit about Brittain.
Like i know shit about Canada,So why go on as if you do?
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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Jan 2008 21:45    Post subject:
you failed to address the fact that a person cannot accurately guess how many of any type of person is in a country as good as a national mandated census can.

may not be perfect, but sure as hell more trustworthy than this ginger fellow.

gingerninjaaaaaa wrote:
Nouse you don't know shit about Brittain.
Like i know shit about Canada,So why go on as if you do?


and all you know is your intolerance for a people so great that you fantasize they are taking over Rolling Eyes

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