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Ankh
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 Posted: Sun, 25th Jul 2010 16:35 Post subject: hd movie question |
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Right - so I saw the hd version of How To Train your dragon was out. I downloaded it and sure its mkv - but the quality sucks. So whats the point in making these kind of releases? Can anyone please explain it to me?
shitloads of new stuff in my pc. Cant keep track of it all.
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BLaM!
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| Posted: Sun, 25th Jul 2010 19:02 Post subject: |
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Bluray isn't out yet...
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IMAGiNE bringing you another release.....How To Train Your Dragon
Ok where do we start with this one :hmmm: well firstly thanks to the upper / capper on Relizlab for the video.
The audio was our own off our TS.
Now got to be totally honest with you and say we are unsure WHAT this actually is....video wise.The detail on it
looks like a screener,but then now and again you see a border on the left side appear and then disappear and also
on the end credits you can see a pulse on the yellow background.....which neither of then some be one a screener but are
more often or not found on cams.....
Anyway we've tagged it how the source we used was which was a 5.20gig 720p mp4 file so.....
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They don't know either what's the source of video...
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chiv
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| Posted: Sun, 25th Jul 2010 19:09 Post subject: |
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umm... wtf.. just because shit says 720, DOESNT MAKE IT HD.
if it dont say bluray, avoid it.
and the 'point' to them is to sucker in people who dont know any better  congratulations on being the target audience 
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Sun, 25th Jul 2010 19:20 Post subject: |
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I'm still waiting for the HD CAM releases they promised years ago. 
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| Posted: Sun, 25th Jul 2010 19:33 Post subject: |
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| iNatan wrote: | | I'm still waiting for the HD CAM releases they promised years ago. |
you mean cell phone cams |
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Sun, 25th Jul 2010 19:44 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Sun, 25th Jul 2010 20:52 Post subject: Re: hd movie question |
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| Ankh wrote: | | ..and sure its mkv - but the quality sucks... |
.MKV is just a container.
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Sun, 25th Jul 2010 22:33 Post subject: |
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The "BRRip" label is usually attached to shitty Xvid releases, so that's not quality either.
And it doesn't have to be from bluray to be good. There are many HDTV and DTheater sources that look fantastic.
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| Posted: Sun, 25th Jul 2010 22:41 Post subject: |
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| iNatan wrote: | The "BRRip" label is usually attached to shitty Xvid releases, so that's not quality either.
And it doesn't have to be from bluray to be good. There are many HDTV and DTheater sources that look fantastic. |
even Laserdisks 80 gig releases look like PO |
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Ankh
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| Posted: Mon, 26th Jul 2010 01:13 Post subject: |
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| manu_xl wrote: | | get a life |
Huh? Whats your problem?
shitloads of new stuff in my pc. Cant keep track of it all.
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Ankh
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| Posted: Mon, 26th Jul 2010 01:14 Post subject: Re: hd movie question |
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| flappy wrote: | | Ankh wrote: | | ..and sure its mkv - but the quality sucks... |
.MKV is just a container. |
Ofcourse - but there really is no reason to make it mkv unless its hd..no?
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| Posted: Mon, 26th Jul 2010 01:30 Post subject: Re: hd movie question |
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| Ankh wrote: | | flappy wrote: | | Ankh wrote: | | ..and sure its mkv - but the quality sucks... |
.MKV is just a container. |
Ofcourse - but there really is no reason to make it mkv unless its hd..no? |
ehm no... like all those korean movies or manga rips are in ogm or mkv ... they aren't hd but they quality is ultra sharp even at 612x512 |
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| Posted: Mon, 26th Jul 2010 01:35 Post subject: |
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MKV is useful for dual-audio stuff, but yeah... outside of HD/D-A, I reckon there's no reason or need for MKV and it just causes issues with non-standard players (like standalone, under-TV, ones)
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chiv
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| Posted: Mon, 26th Jul 2010 09:31 Post subject: |
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i avoid hdtv rips for movies. had a bad experience with the rock a long time ago... tlf release, early days of hdtv, and it was terrible and its put me off for life. i still get hdtv rips for shows occasionally... man those station logos in america are big... and i dont have any problem with the quality on those releases... but i still just cant trust hdtv movie releases because of that one bad experience... oh wells.
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| Posted: Mon, 26th Jul 2010 09:47 Post subject: |
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Scene release
For example (quick finds, just to show quality):
Rush Hour 1998 1080p HDTV x264
 
Code 46 2003 1080p HDTV DD5.1 H.264
  
And of course, with such nice 1080p, the 720p is great too (what I used to watch back in the day when HDTV were the main source).
Bitches in Europe got nice channels with full 1080p30 streams at high bitrates... 
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| Posted: Mon, 26th Jul 2010 09:48 Post subject: |
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| chiv wrote: | | i avoid hdtv rips for movies. had a bad experience with the rock a long time ago... tlf release, early days of hdtv, and it was terrible and its put me off for life. i still get hdtv rips for shows occasionally... man those station logos in america are big... and i dont have any problem with the quality on those releases... but i still just cant trust hdtv movie releases because of that one bad experience... oh wells. |
trick is to download the first rar and extract that so you have an idea how it looks like, i can only remember 2-3 cases where the HDTV version wasnt an upgrade from the DVD
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| Posted: Mon, 26th Jul 2010 10:55 Post subject: |
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even tho I can now play those movies, I will still go with 700 MB Xvid vs 7 GB 'brrip'... the picture is the same on my 22" when I look from >1m so I don't see why I should dl sth that big (and with 1MBit/sec it takes like 3 days on/off dl'ing) when there is no big difference...
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| Posted: Mon, 26th Jul 2010 11:21 Post subject: |
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Weren't the Lord of the Rings HDTV rips looking better than their bluray releases?
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| Posted: Mon, 26th Jul 2010 11:24 Post subject: |
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Hmm, the only LOTR HDTV releases I remember were the EE ones, and they had the extended parts upscaled from DVD.
But I had a look at the bluray release for LOTR and it really looks subpar  I hope they do a better telecine process for the EE blurays in however years in the future when they decide to release them.
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