The Boy Who Lived Before
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deelix
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PostPosted: Fri, 5th Oct 2007 11:28    Post subject: The Boy Who Lived Before


Documentary about a 4 year old who remember his past life. Barra, a little Island outside Scottland.

Interesting and kinda disturbing. Impossible to say if there is a rational explenation. Personally i doubt it.
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PostPosted: Fri, 5th Oct 2007 15:06    Post subject:
I've heard about it before. When we're are kids we can remember our past lives, but when we grow up we forget... it is quite interesting...


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thats true you know. newton didnt discover gravity. the apple told him about it, and then he killed it. the core was never found.

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PostPosted: Fri, 5th Oct 2007 15:33    Post subject:
and sometimes our parents want to get on TV too much... Rolling Eyes


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PostPosted: Fri, 5th Oct 2007 16:50    Post subject:
I believe in reincarnation

still....


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PostPosted: Fri, 5th Oct 2007 17:16    Post subject:
I believe the evidence to be compelling enough to warrant research into it as many have done already. The problem is, that most research is already done by believers so its often skewed. From what i have seen in that documentary it looks like a convincing case, but that might be coming from the way it is presented.
If children really have memories of past lifes it still doesnt mean they are reincarnated, but that they have access to memories of the past. It could still be some kind of ESP or in line with Sheldrake's ideas about morphogenetic fields...
I m still sceptical, but since at least one major religion on the planet has reincarnation incorporated common sense would suggest, that the phenomenon is at least widespread enough through humanity and its history to dig deeper than the guys in this documentary
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PostPosted: Fri, 5th Oct 2007 17:44    Post subject:
in my past life i was hfric
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PostPosted: Fri, 5th Oct 2007 17:50    Post subject:
... I wouldn't be proud of that...
I would like to find out who I was in my past life. Just imagine that you find out that you were like Hitler or some shit like that... Shocked


"Quantum mechanics is actually, contrary to it's reputation, unbeliveably simple, once you take the physics out."
Scott Aaronson
chiv wrote:
thats true you know. newton didnt discover gravity. the apple told him about it, and then he killed it. the core was never found.

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PostPosted: Fri, 5th Oct 2007 18:49    Post subject:
Lutzifer wrote:

I m still sceptical, but since at least one major religion on the planet has reincarnation incorporated common sense would suggest, that the phenomenon is at least widespread enough through humanity and its history to dig deeper than the guys in this documentary


I don't think religion needs any factual basis for it's mythology. Any rhetoric which gives an individual incentive to follow the rules even to their detriment is fair game.

Religion is all about control, belief in something beyond the corporeal is what gives it to religious institutions.


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PostPosted: Fri, 5th Oct 2007 22:44    Post subject:
Lutzifer wrote:
I believe the evidence to be compelling enough to warrant research into it as many have done already. The problem is, that most research is already done by believers so its often skewed. From what i have seen in that documentary it looks like a convincing case, but that might be coming from the way it is presented.
If children really have memories of past lifes it still doesnt mean they are reincarnated, but that they have access to memories of the past. It could still be some kind of ESP or in line with Sheldrake's ideas about morphogenetic fields...
I m still sceptical, but since at least one major religion on the planet has reincarnation incorporated common sense would suggest, that the phenomenon is at least widespread enough through humanity and its history to dig deeper than the guys in this documentary


whats this about morphogentic fields? sounds interesting. Explain please Smile


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PostPosted: Fri, 5th Oct 2007 23:42    Post subject:
I can’t help but be sceptical at any documentary so strongly dramatized.
It makes you think though. To add to Lutzifers point, maybe the boy tapped into the super sub-conscious (the realm of ALL thoughts and memories) discussed by Jung.

From judging the mother the documentary is very likely bull but at least it’s brought about discussion on the paranormal.
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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Oct 2007 01:14    Post subject:
believing in reincarnation is believing in god and i don't believe in invisible man

there is no life after death, u live and u die = simple
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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Oct 2007 01:37    Post subject:
Mortibus wrote:
believing in reincarnation is believing in god and i don't believe in invisible man

there is no life after death, u live and u die = simple


Oh, so how many times have you died?

Im not saying i believe in reincarnation, but NO-ONE KNOWS FOR SURE what happens when you die.


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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Oct 2007 02:39    Post subject:
and no one will, coz there nothing, as there isn't any small green creatures from mars or any other planet/galaxy, otherwise there would be any fysical evidence or contact

some ppl just need to believe in something or someone, that's their sad nature
some even can't live without it and making it most important aspect of their entire life

if those would be concentrated more on science then they wouldn't kill each other for oil, money, diamonds, gold etc..

consider humans as expendable assets, something like condoms, only with more purpose and functionality
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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Oct 2007 03:56    Post subject:
Mortibus wrote:
and no one will, coz there nothing, as there isn't any small green creatures from mars or any other planet/galaxy, otherwise there would be any fysical evidence or contact

some ppl just need to believe in something or someone, that's their sad nature
some even can't live without it and making it most important aspect of their entire life

if those would be concentrated more on science then they wouldn't kill each other for oil, money, diamonds, gold etc..

consider humans as expendable assets, something like condoms, only with more purpose and functionality


But there YOU go and BELIEVE. You BELIEVE that there is nothing after death. You can't know, so you make up your own beliefs. And you judge others who believe there IS something after death.. Talk about slapping yourself in the face. Sad nature, eh.
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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Oct 2007 05:41    Post subject:
Unauthorized wrote:
Mortibus wrote:
and no one will, coz there nothing, as there isn't any small green creatures from mars or any other planet/galaxy, otherwise there would be any fysical evidence or contact

some ppl just need to believe in something or someone, that's their sad nature
some even can't live without it and making it most important aspect of their entire life

if those would be concentrated more on science then they wouldn't kill each other for oil, money, diamonds, gold etc..

consider humans as expendable assets, something like condoms, only with more purpose and functionality


But there YOU go and BELIEVE. You BELIEVE that there is nothing after death. You can't know, so you make up your own beliefs. And you judge others who believe there IS something after death.. Talk about slapping yourself in the face. Sad nature, eh.


it's just funny how ppl willing to protect something that doesn't even exist and kill or die for it

reincarnation was invented for a weak ppl who were afraid to die, after they discover that there is another life after the one that they are in at the moment they feel much better Razz

believing in yourself is most important

p.s. don't bother with reply, coz this discussion is pointless and will lead nowhere as always Wink
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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Oct 2007 15:39    Post subject:
Mortibus wrote:
and no one will, coz there nothing, as there isn't any small green creatures from mars or any other planet/galaxy, otherwise there would be any fysical evidence or contact

some ppl just need to believe in something or someone, that's their sad nature
some even can't live without it and making it most important aspect of their entire life

if those would be concentrated more on science then they wouldn't kill each other for oil, money, diamonds, gold etc..

consider humans as expendable assets, something like condoms, only with more purpose and functionality
I know. Its a very simple way to think. And there is lots of fake, fucked up propaganda stuff. But there are strange things going on that we don't know for sure what is. Just like psychic people. Crop circles and ghosts. Its to ignorant to say they doesnt exist.

I dont believe in God, but I sure is fucked if religion was the right way to go Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Oct 2007 18:04    Post subject:
Mortibus wrote:

reincarnation was invented for a weak ppl who were afraid to die, after they discover that there is another life after the one that they are in at the moment they feel much better Razz


Personally I think it was created by religious institutions to maintain control. The whole "behave yourself and you get reincarnated as someone rich/go to heaven/get 72 virgins" rhetoric is just their way of getting you to do what you're told.


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PostPosted: Tue, 9th Oct 2007 14:19    Post subject:
AnimalMother wrote:
Mortibus wrote:

reincarnation was invented for a weak ppl who were afraid to die, after they discover that there is another life after the one that they are in at the moment they feel much better Razz


Personally I think it was created by religious institutions to maintain control. The whole "behave yourself and you get reincarnated as someone rich/go to heaven/get 72 virgins" rhetoric is just their way of getting you to do what you're told.


So what do you think happens then? We're just a biological machine that fades into nothing when we die?

I dont believe that at all. Its plausible, but still...you dont believe in some sort of soul?
And wouldnt the concept of experiencing multiple forms of life be logical as you learn different lessons and 'truths' from each?


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PostPosted: Tue, 9th Oct 2007 15:08    Post subject:
SycoShaman wrote:
And wouldnt the concept of experiencing multiple forms of life be logical as you learn different lessons and 'truths' from each?


For what purpose?
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PostPosted: Tue, 9th Oct 2007 20:36    Post subject:
Life needs to cease, otherwise it wouldn't make any sense. What would you evolve (going through infinite lives, reincarnating) to? Even if you believe in reincarnation, it has to end at some point, 'cause if you keep living and learning, one day you'll reach perfection(you would be god, or a god) and there will be nothing else to do or learn, so you would either stay "frozen" doing nothing, or you would have to start the cycle again (losing everything you gained).

Life can only have some meaning to me if it has an end. I cant see afterlife as a logical thing.
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PostPosted: Tue, 9th Oct 2007 21:13    Post subject:
I agree when you say that eventually things must end... but I like to trust in conservation of energy. Energy may be transformed from one form to another, but it is never created or destroyed. Plain and simple, since we all have energy in us, when we die that energy doesn't dissapear, at least I believe it doesn't. So even if we evolve, and reincarnate one day, we'll be able to remember this conversation... as gods Smile


"Quantum mechanics is actually, contrary to it's reputation, unbeliveably simple, once you take the physics out."
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chiv wrote:
thats true you know. newton didnt discover gravity. the apple told him about it, and then he killed it. the core was never found.

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PostPosted: Wed, 10th Oct 2007 03:19    Post subject:
SilverBlue wrote:
SycoShaman wrote:
And wouldnt the concept of experiencing multiple forms of life be logical as you learn different lessons and 'truths' from each?


For what purpose?


To learn and experience as much as possible from life


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PostPosted: Wed, 10th Oct 2007 04:21    Post subject:
Works for me. Fair enough. Smile
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PostPosted: Tue, 16th Oct 2007 20:35    Post subject:
shit , your soul man will turn into binary numbers , 1,0 , and go to some shit of Baldurs Gate world become a troll , die in acid , burn in flames , your head will be placed on the stick and body mutilated
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PostPosted: Wed, 17th Oct 2007 01:07    Post subject:
God gives you a card if you wanna come back? Not too many people would take that offer. Go haunt the cosmos or something.
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