NOD32 Sucks, Alternatives please?
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DeMoN064




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PostPosted: Sun, 8th Jul 2007 20:07    Post subject: NOD32 Sucks, Alternatives please?
And don't say I'm wrong, This speaks for itself.

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A-Squared Found Trojan-Spy.Win32.KeyLogger.bd
AntiVir Found DR/Perflogger.CA.154
ArcaVir Found Trojan.Downloader.Agent.Fz
Avast Found Win32:Agent-XW
AVG Antivirus Found PSW.Banker.25.S
BitDefender Found Trojan.Perflog.Mod.RAR
ClamAV Found nothing
Dr.Web Found Trojan.Peflog.156, Trojan.KeyLogger.22, Trojan.DownLoader.8132
F-Prot Antivirus Found nothing
F-Secure Anti-Virus Found not-a-virus:Monitor.Win32.Perflogger.ca (6, 2, 604), not-a-virus:Monitor.Win32.Perflogger.ad (6, 2, 604), Trojan-Spy.Win32.Perfloger.ab
Fortinet Found Spy/Dropper
Kaspersky Anti-Virus Found not-a-virus:Monitor.Win32.Perflogger.ca, not-a-virus:Monitor.Win32.Perflogger.ad, Trojan-Spy.Win32.Perfloger.ab
NOD32 Found nothing
Norman Virus Control Found Banker.BOPF
Panda Antivirus Found nothing
Rising Antivirus Found Trojan.Perflog.ew
Sophos Antivirus Found Mal/Dropper-PQ
VirusBuster Found nothing
VBA32 Found Trojan.Peflog.156, Trojan.KeyLogger.22, Trojan-Spy.Win32.Perfloger.ab


Can anyone recommend any GOOD antivirus software?
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matija14




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PostPosted: Sun, 8th Jul 2007 20:15    Post subject:
Kaspersky 6!
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LeoNatan
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PostPosted: Sun, 8th Jul 2007 20:45    Post subject: Re: NOD32 Sucks, Alternatives please?
DeMoN064 wrote:
Can anyone recommend any GOOD antivirus software?

NOD32.

Don't give me some crappy, half-assed test with no source and expect to sweep me off my feet. Put Kapersky on, and watch your quad-core, 4GB pc crawl.
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DeMoN064




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PostPosted: Sun, 8th Jul 2007 21:03    Post subject:
My PC is already at a crawl because I clicked the .exe assuming it was safe because I trusted NOD32. Rolling Eyes

Had to use Spybot to get rid of most of the crap it installed (2 Keyloggers) I then used this site to scan the file I clicked on http://virusscan.jotti.org/ thats what the above results I posted show.

Thats why I asked for a GOOD antivirus to get rid of any other crap its installed since NOD32 can't find shit. (Based on my experence)
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LeoNatan
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PostPosted: Sun, 8th Jul 2007 21:30    Post subject:
If you removed it, and your PC is still at crawl, then something else is wrong. Razz

NOD32, best AV.
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SpykeZ




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PostPosted: Sun, 8th Jul 2007 21:32    Post subject:
Using Kaspersky internet security 6 here, loved it so much I actually bought it, people who bad mouth it are usually of the less intelligent or are fanbois of another, I've used just about everything and the only thing I don't like about kaspersky is the interface isn't exactly user friendly at first. I've yet to have anything get past it. Download the trial and they'll let you use it for a month, it's impossible to pirate as they log IP's using the same key so you'll have to buy it but you can get a year subscription pretty damn cheap on ebay.

You'll have to get used to biased opinion on this board. Everyone on here act's like their the ones who programmed whatever they use or work for the company and try promoting there crap.

As of now Kaspersky and NOD32 (could be others im not sure so feel free to addon) are the best A/V's around with their detection rate. I personally used nod32 and didn't seem like it was catching anything till I got a few viruses and said the hell with it. From a personal experience I've yet to get any viruses in the 3-4 months I've had kaspersky, hell I even went to a bunch of porn virus infected sites to give it a run and not a single one made it on my computer. But again, this is from my own experience.

The TWO you DO NOT want to ever give a run is anything symantec makes or mcafee


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Mortibus




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PostPosted: Sun, 8th Jul 2007 21:59    Post subject:
LeoNatan wrote:
NOD32, best AV.


kav slowed my system down to a crawl just working in the background
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maxiepaxie




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PostPosted: Sun, 8th Jul 2007 22:05    Post subject:
Don't download dodgy files. I know a lot of people say this but it's true, if you are having trouble with loads of viruses then you should check the source(s).
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SpykeZ




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PostPosted: Sun, 8th Jul 2007 22:10    Post subject:
maxiepaxie wrote:
Don't download dodgy files. I know a lot of people say this but it's true, if you are having trouble with loads of viruses then you should check the source(s).


Torrents ftl Crying or Very sad

Mortibus wrote:

kav slowed my system down to a crawl just working in the background


Curious which version were you using? Only time it makes me crawl is when running a full system scan and I only get occasional system lag.


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Mortibus




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PostPosted: Sun, 8th Jul 2007 22:27    Post subject:
SpykeZ wrote:
maxiepaxie wrote:
Don't download dodgy files. I know a lot of people say this but it's true, if you are having trouble with loads of viruses then you should check the source(s).


Torrents ftl Crying or Very sad

Mortibus wrote:

kav slowed my system down to a crawl just working in the background


Curious which version were you using? Only time it makes me crawl is when running a full system scan .


latest one don't remember which one exactly

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and I only get occasional system lag


i don't get that with nod at all

to each his own of course
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CaptainCox
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PostPosted: Sun, 8th Jul 2007 23:04    Post subject:
I just use Avast (free version) but I also have a router of course.


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SpykeZ




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PostPosted: Sun, 8th Jul 2007 23:29    Post subject:
Also don't forget AVG was built to run along side just about any AV so make sure your using that as well Smile


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difm




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PostPosted: Mon, 9th Jul 2007 00:00    Post subject:
Kaspersky is a real twitchy AV.
Tested it with 2 identical PC's (brand new, both had a fresh XP Home install from the same disc) and 1 had huuuuuuge slowdowns every couple of minuts. Not to mention long Win startup times.


BTW, NOD32 can be the best AV. It's just how you configure it.


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SpykeZ




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PostPosted: Mon, 9th Jul 2007 00:25    Post subject:
I believe the point of him asking for an alternative to NOD32 is to give him just that...not to continuously recommending the AV he just said he doesn't want to use.


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kosmiq




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PostPosted: Mon, 9th Jul 2007 00:36    Post subject:
Kaspersky FTW! I'm using it, even paid for it. Never noticed any slowdowns or anything. It catches packed files NOD32 never even noticed and warns about them. Does not in any way gives me any slower system then NOD32 did.

I love Kaspersky! Very Happy



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Reg67




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PostPosted: Mon, 9th Jul 2007 07:32    Post subject:
matija14 wrote:
Kaspersky 6!



I agree, ive been through loads over the years and so far this seems to be the best, its a little over zealous at times - but thats a good thing..

But really the only way to be completely safe is never to go online Smile

@Spykez - cant be cracked? ive been using a cracked vers for months.. or maybe its not cracked and just letting all the crap through? oooooohhh now im paranoid Crying or Very sad
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SpykeZ




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PostPosted: Mon, 9th Jul 2007 07:57    Post subject:
Reg67 wrote:
matija14 wrote:
Kaspersky 6!



I agree, ive been through loads over the years and so far this seems to be the best, its a little over zealous at times - but thats a good thing..

But really the only way to be completely safe is never to go online Smile

@Spykez - cant be cracked? ive been using a cracked vers for months.. or maybe its not cracked and just letting all the crap through? oooooohhh now im paranoid Crying or Very sad


You must have gotten a good key than that not many others use. They use a blacklisting system on the key files so if they see it comming from more than 1 IP in a short time they'll blacklist the key, but hey, I only paid like 15 bucks for it on ebay brand new, and as good as it works for me, it's a small price to pay.


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fwb73




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PostPosted: Mon, 9th Jul 2007 14:53    Post subject:
i use both on different systems....yes kaspersky is very resource intensive but a good all rounder...
Nod32 is a great AV but needs to be used inconjuction with a good antispyware prog and a good firewall... most of the problems that got thro your nod32 are trojans or spyware...
Yesterday i fixed a laptop for a friend that was riddled with viri, trojans and spyware (the muppet had switched off his ZA net security suite). I used nod32 and spybot to remove all the problems and then checked his system with various other progs to check there was nothing left and it went through fine.
i will check it this evening with http://virusscan.jotti.org/ to see if anything else got through.
as said before its all down to how you configure your av progs....


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Unauthorized




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PostPosted: Mon, 9th Jul 2007 16:56    Post subject:
SpykeZ wrote:
hell I even went to a bunch of porn virus infected sites to give it a run and not a single one made it on my computer.


Haha, how do you know you didn't. Because not every keylogger and virus goes "oehy look at me here I am". Just because your AV didn't find anything doesn't make it "not there" :Very HappyVery HappyVery HappyWink say baj baj to ur WowZ accoOntz! Laughing


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todd72173




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PostPosted: Mon, 9th Jul 2007 17:14    Post subject:
NOD32 has caught several trojans/viruses for me. I changed setting to auto update daily. Works great..

Well, an alternative would be Symantic Antivirus Corporate. I was using that before and had really no issues.
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SpykeZ




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PostPosted: Mon, 9th Jul 2007 18:55    Post subject:
Unauthorized wrote:
SpykeZ wrote:
hell I even went to a bunch of porn virus infected sites to give it a run and not a single one made it on my computer.


Haha, how do you know you didn't. Because not every keylogger and virus goes "oehy look at me here I am". Just because your AV didn't find anything doesn't make it "not there" :Very HappyVery HappyVery HappyWink say baj baj to ur WowZ accoOntz! Laughing


Get out of my systemz you hacker Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad


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dominae
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PostPosted: Mon, 9th Jul 2007 19:09    Post subject:
nod32 ftw.


I also think fisk should be unbanned.
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Paintface




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PostPosted: Mon, 9th Jul 2007 19:40    Post subject:
KAV 6
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FreeDiver




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PostPosted: Tue, 10th Jul 2007 01:30    Post subject:
DeMoN064 wrote:
My PC is already at a crawl because I clicked the .exe assuming it was safe because I trusted NOD32. Rolling Eyes

Had to use Spybot to get rid of most of the crap it installed (2 Keyloggers) I then used this site to scan the file I clicked on http://virusscan.jotti.org/ thats what the above results I posted show.

Thats why I asked for a GOOD antivirus to get rid of any other crap its installed since NOD32 can't find shit. (Based on my experence)


sometimes you need to update nod32 manually,and not to trust the auto-update,evem though it makes a woderful job.

I never had any problems with nod32 , works like a charm.


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LastRite




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PostPosted: Wed, 11th Jul 2007 14:15    Post subject:
NOD32 works great for me, get your files from trusted sources . . .
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djbrummos




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PostPosted: Wed, 11th Jul 2007 16:21    Post subject: Re: NOD32 Sucks, Alternatives please?
LeoNatan wrote:
NOD32.

Don't give me some crappy, half-assed test with no source and expect to sweep me off my feet. Put Kapersky on, and watch your quad-core, 4GB pc crawl.


dude let me get 1 thing straight. kaspersky is the best. and i must admit. kasperky 6 is kinda bad and eats your PC for breakfast. BUT, a realy realy big BUT. they already made a kasperky 7. and that one my friend is the bomb. it does not slow down your pc at all (got a pentium D 3.8 ghz and 2GB mem, ok maybe i dont have a crappy PC, but on the other hand i dont have a monster either Laughing )

So just to help the people here. take kasperky 7. its the best in anti-virus

EDIT: CRAP i make allot of typos!!


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s_hole




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PostPosted: Wed, 11th Jul 2007 16:25    Post subject:
kaspersky hands down
does the job well and most importantly is nonintrusive
nod and f-suckure do more damage than any virus has for me years without any protection
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difm




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PostPosted: Wed, 11th Jul 2007 16:48    Post subject:
s_hole wrote:

nod and f-suckure do more damage than any virus has for me years without any protection


Care to explain?
Links and pictures much appreciated.
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Sedolf




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PostPosted: Wed, 11th Jul 2007 16:52    Post subject:
I'm using NOD32 here since 6 months and having absolutely no problems. In addition, I use the free Trend Micro Housecall service twice a month to ensure protection.

Kaspersky products are without a doubt the best and most aggressive Security Programs out there. They really take up alot of ressources and are very strict, thats why I prefer the light and effective NOD32.


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todd72173




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PostPosted: Wed, 11th Jul 2007 18:05    Post subject:
I have no tolerance for apps that take alot of resources Also known as 'poor code'.

Kasperky, Symantec - will never use.

Give me NOD, a small, extremely well coded app that does the job.
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