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 Posted: Sat, 2nd Jun 2007 00:23 Post subject: English skills |
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how do you improve your english skills?
I would like to improve my writing english skills,I feel like its pretty bad,any suggestions of how?
thanks. 
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Sat, 2nd Jun 2007 00:23 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Sat, 2nd Jun 2007 00:28 Post subject: |
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| LeoNatan wrote: | | Read English books. |
how reading books will improve my writing skills? |
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| Posted: Sat, 2nd Jun 2007 00:32 Post subject: |
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What do you mean by writing skills? If it's grammar and spelling skills, trust me, books help.
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No. English books just enlarge your vocabulary nothing more. Doesn't really make you smarter or well aware of the English language. Best thing to do is to just surround yourself with the English language, movies, music, books ( ) and just study it. Read study books. Things that focus more on grammar and spelling aspects of the language. Reading a book these days is shit, sometimes they, crummy writerers, overlook certain rules just to look 'cool' and 'hip' and 'creative' which fucking sucks. If you want to sound smart read big thick books (might just read the dictionary and memorize the words and definitions ) If you want to pwn at english just study it. 
Just cause you’ve read Dostoyevsky doesn’t mean you’re smart. Just because you can spell Negus doesn’t mean you’re smart either.
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| Posted: Sat, 2nd Jun 2007 00:40 Post subject: |
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thats exactly what I meant,I want to improve my grammer skills,it really lacks,every and each phrase I write consists of at least 70% grammer mistakes... 
well seems like im heading to read TONS of english essays... preferably web based 
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| Posted: Sat, 2nd Jun 2007 00:46 Post subject: |
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Doesn't matter what you read, just read English.
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| LeoNatan wrote: | | Doesn't matter what you read, just read English. |
I'm pretty sure if you grew up with a Russian/French/Polish/ grammar you'd have no problem picking up any English book. With not knowing the rules of the language you want to learn, you can't really understand it then. Even if you can speak it well enough to ask the hot dog vender where the nearest library is.
I'd reccomend picking up simple ESL books as a start. Read them. Study the language. That's all I can tell you. Then pick up hefty books and learn how you can abuse the language.
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| Posted: Sat, 2nd Jun 2007 00:58 Post subject: |
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| X_Dror wrote: | I think I will never really know when to use Have,has,had,had had and etc. 
Except for the classic cases, it's really confusing and I have no idea which one of them I should pick
Is that what you've meant FreeDriver?
Because time tense aren't a problem and the only problematic thing I can think of is this had,has,have thingy |
Yes ,one of many others. 
for e.g: what cant I say "look at the sentence you HAVE just wrote"
according to one's signature in this forum,its incorrect... why? I have no idea... |
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well, according to LeoNatan, go read Clockwork Orange, and you'll find out
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It should have/had been 'You have just written'
Base Form+ v3
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or get rid of have and leave it at you just wrote 
keep it simple
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| Posted: Sat, 2nd Jun 2007 01:04 Post subject: |
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arrggh....10x
someday I'll get over these issues... someday.... 
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| Posted: Sat, 2nd Jun 2007 01:05 Post subject: Re: English skills |
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| FreeDiver wrote: | how do you improve your english skills?
I would like to improve my writing english skills,I feel like its pretty bad,any suggestions of how?
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dont read forums or articles on the net.
or else you'll start saying stuff like "I'm loosing my mind"
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| Posted: Sat, 2nd Jun 2007 01:06 Post subject: |
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| X_Dror wrote: | | But then he will sound stupid . |
actually I dont care whether I sound stupid or not,if the sentence is grammatically correct,then I rest my case. |
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| Posted: Sat, 2nd Jun 2007 01:08 Post subject: Re: English skills |
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| |IcedFreon| wrote: | dont read forums or articles on the net.
or else you'll start saying stuff like "I'm loosing my mind" |
make the l big and the i PLX!
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| Posted: Sat, 2nd Jun 2007 01:09 Post subject: Re: English skills |
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| |IcedFreon| wrote: | | FreeDiver wrote: | how do you improve your english skills?
I would like to improve my writing english skills,I feel like its pretty bad,any suggestions of how?
thanks. |
dont read forums or articles on the net.
or else you'll start saying stuff like "I'm loosing my mind" |
But some site's articles tend to be in a very high level...for e.g the english news sites (cnn,bbc..). arent they? |
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| Posted: Sat, 2nd Jun 2007 01:10 Post subject: |
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For information they're swell, but to learn the language they's ain't!
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| Posted: Sat, 2nd Jun 2007 02:33 Post subject: |
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Watch cool movies with subtitles on. Perfect learrning material.
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That's good to learn the speech and dialogue and some spoken english language. It's not good to learn the grammar and such. Dialogue doesn't have to be grammatically correct at all. Especially when people write in slang. There's no fine definition for gonna or wanna and other shit. Heck, fuck has different meaning in a lot of languages (mainly fornication)
I like to say fuck you want? Fuck you doing? Fucking fuck! Fuck Off!
You know?
You can learn a language from watching movies and shit, but you can't learn the rules. It's best to learn the rules first before you learn a language. You learn how to use it and then how to exploit it. Which is great. If you use one-liners from a movie, you'll only memorize a language and not learn it. Sorta sucks.
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| Posted: Sat, 2nd Jun 2007 04:15 Post subject: |
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Unless English is your first language, I wouldn't worry too much about your grammar. I like to consider myself fluent at French, but it would be obvious to any native speaker that it's not my first language. As long as you're literate and intelligible in conversation you've got nothing to worry about.
Is theres some specific reason you want to improve your English skills, or is it just personal?
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WaldoJ
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hahahha move to quebec. I bet you'll be pwn at french French Canadians are laughed at in France and any other pure french country It's lol. They use English grammar for the french language
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| AnimalMother wrote: | Unless English is your first language, I wouldn't worry too much about your grammar. I like to consider myself fluent at French, but it would be obvious to any native speaker that it's not my first language. As long as you're literate and intelligible in conversation you've got nothing to worry about.
Is theres some specific reason you want to improve your English skills, or is it just personal? |
there is no special reason for that, just to have a better feeling when I use it,which is usually in writing.
my problem is that I really dont know any rules. basically I've learned what I know from the web (forums,sites..etc) from reading and writing. |
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If you have the money, take a private teacher... A help from a professional is always the best solution.
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You need to remember to put a capital letter at the start of every sentence. Apart from that your English skills seem spot on.
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| Posted: Sat, 2nd Jun 2007 16:26 Post subject: |
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the best english word begins with 'C'and ends in 'T'
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