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Posted: Sun, 25th Mar 2007 13:41 Post subject: Middle-to-high end PC; PSU issues. |
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Hey, you might remember the specs I posted like a month ago, but I'll throw em in as usual.
Core 2 Duo E6600
2GB of Corsair Valueselect RAM (switched from my kingstons, they were causing a ton of problems, including MD5 checksum failures, etc.)
e-GeForce 8800GTX
A P5NSLI MB (god, it sucks so hard.)
TT 600W PSU
Anyway, I've been having this problem ever since I first bought this rig, but it's been on and off and somewhat (although not justifying my negligence) unimportant.
Little did I know what I was going to encounter.
Now, every time I start up my computer, I get no signal from the screen, nada.
Ok, so I manually restart it, hey! here comes the boot signal, but wait...I can't press any button, and it's not moving.
Ok, 3rd time's a charm right? sometimes.
I boot it up for the third time, and usually, it gets past the boot screen and on to my OS.
Now, I've also written about this in a different tech-forum, and those guys told me I needed a min of 750W to run my rig, adding a lethal blow with a side by side comparison of a thread exactly like mine.
So it's like this, the guys I bought it from (K.S.P, might be familiar to israeli peeps) don't sell PSUs in normal margins, e.g 650, 750, 800, 850, etc.
They tell me, we have a 1K watt for you if you want, it's 5K NIS (around $1.5K?)
I found a decent 750PSU in a different store, but its 1K NIS and i'm DEFINITELY not gonna spend another 1k for a PSU just to avoid those assholes.
Blabber on please. (Blabber means help in Cornish)
-H
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Phluxed
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Posted: Mon, 26th Mar 2007 00:16 Post subject: |
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700 minumum. I don't know what else I can tell you.
Maybe look on ebay and pay the border taxes, maybe it'll come out cheaper?
It's hard to say ,but yes, you do need a bigger PSU. That video card HOGS power and Intel are bitches about power consumption. AMD and an ATI card wouldve saved you the necessity of a beefy PSU but your only option now is to get a bigger PSU.
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Posted: Mon, 26th Mar 2007 01:23 Post subject: |
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Could the PSU issue be causing not having the performance I want from my parts?
Like lower frame-rates than I'd expect, etc.?
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Posted: Mon, 26th Mar 2007 01:57 Post subject: |
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Hellbeans wrote: | Could the PSU issue be causing not having the performance I want from my parts?
Like lower frame-rates than I'd expect, etc.? |
well ya, your hardware isnt getting the juice they need to run optimal so of course their gunna run sluggish, and in some cases not run, or just run like you found it laying in your backyard, one of my rules for building rigs is alwyas have a PSU with a couple hundred spare watts just so you know you have enough and in case you upgrade a little.
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Posted: Mon, 26th Mar 2007 02:34 Post subject: |
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I'm running a 8800GTX and a E6600 @ 3.2Ghz on a 550Watt Modular PSU. Make sure your 12v rails put out over 30A combined otherwise you might run into some issues.
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Posted: Mon, 26th Mar 2007 02:35 Post subject: |
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SpykeZ wrote: | Hellbeans wrote: | Could the PSU issue be causing not having the performance I want from my parts?
Like lower frame-rates than I'd expect, etc.? |
well ya, your hardware isnt getting the juice they need to run optimal so of course their gunna run sluggish, and in some cases not run, or just run like you found it laying in your backyard, one of my rules for building rigs is alwyas have a PSU with a couple hundred spare watts just so you know you have enough and in case you upgrade a little. |
*Phew* Thanks a bunch peeps.
I'll see this solved ASAP.
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deelix
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Posted: Mon, 26th Mar 2007 08:23 Post subject: |
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saw a dell/hp/compac (don't really remember) with E6600 and 8800GTX with 460W PSU. I mean... wtf, iv got 530W myself, nearly 4 year old PSU.
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Posted: Mon, 26th Mar 2007 21:52 Post subject: |
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deelix wrote: | saw a dell/hp/compac (don't really remember) with E6600 and 8800GTX with 460W PSU. I mean... wtf, iv got 530W myself, nearly 4 year old PSU. |
Other than "don't buy it", there's not much else I can say.
I was thinking the same thing before I bought this rig, but I got my ass handed to me, as 80% of trusted-techies tell me I need a min of 750W.
To add to that: I can see that the PSU is having major issues, as everything heats up, and I get artifacts and stuff...I ran stalker the other day @ 1600x1200(i think, whichever's highest) and everything maxed out, and not only did I get a huge FPS drop, there were so many artifacts I thought I was playing geologist.
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Posted: Mon, 26th Mar 2007 21:59 Post subject: |
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KrAzY-KaMeL wrote: | I'm running a 8800GTX and a E6600 @ 3.2Ghz on a 550Watt Modular PSU. Make sure your 12v rails put out over 30A combined otherwise you might run into some issues. |
I tried PC Probe and all I see is one +12.0 bar, which says 11.84v.
Any other software I can use?
For the heck of it, all of PC Probe's Voltage Bars:
Vcore - 1.38
+3.3 - 3.28
+5.0 - 5.03
+12.0 - 11.84
CPU - 43C
MB - 52C
CPU - 2235RPM
All of this @ idle, doing nothing (well except for posting.)
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nouseforaname
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Posted: Mon, 26th Mar 2007 23:09 Post subject: |
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Everest is good
http://www.lavalys.com/products/download.php?ps=UE&lang=en
also, my 12V is closer to 12V under load than that, and my PSU is budget ...
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Posted: Mon, 26th Mar 2007 23:52 Post subject: |
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I'm running
P5W64 Pro
E6600
2gb Corsair DDR2
8800GTS
7xHDD's
1xDVD-RW
X-Fi XtremeMusic
on a Seasonic S12 600w, works just fine all the time.
Behold his GLORY! Bow for the technical master!
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Posted: Mon, 26th Mar 2007 23:59 Post subject: |
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Hellbeans wrote: | KrAzY-KaMeL wrote: | I'm running a 8800GTX and a E6600 @ 3.2Ghz on a 550Watt Modular PSU. Make sure your 12v rails put out over 30A combined otherwise you might run into some issues. |
I tried PC Probe and all I see is one +12.0 bar, which says 11.84v.
Any other software I can use?
For the heck of it, all of PC Probe's Voltage Bars:
Vcore - 1.38
+3.3 - 3.28
+5.0 - 5.03
+12.0 - 11.84
CPU - 43C
MB - 52C
CPU - 2235RPM
All of this @ idle, doing nothing (well except for posting.) |
Your 12v is dipping a bit low but that's acceptable, what I was referring to was physically looking on the sticker attached to side of the PSU. There will be a chart displaying output ratings for each specific catagory, 5v, 12v, etc.
Look at the 12v rail, the minimum required as stated by Nvidia for a 8800 is 30Amps. Most PSU's have dual, triple or more rails and it will give you the maximum output with the rails combined. You can get away with less then 30amps though but a pretty solid PSU would be best for that situation.
Is yours the TT Tough Power? If it is then there is no reason for it to be failing, that thing has quad 12v rails all rated at 18A each. If it's a TT Pure Power that shouldn't be failing either, it has a combined 52A on the 12v rail.
Or you have a random cheapo generic TT PSU which can barely power a LED.
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Posted: Tue, 27th Mar 2007 10:18 Post subject: |
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It's the ToughPower version.
What do you think is wrong then?
With the boots, C2D's, restarts, overheating, artifacts, you name it.
Maybe the PSU is busted?
Anyway, the other day I ran this test on Sandra Lite, and it said something about my CPU voltage being too high?
Didn't wanna mess with anything so, if you know what's this about, then great ;p
thx btw
Edit: I'm an idiot.
Regardless, this is the model: http://www.thermaltake.com/product/Power/ToughPower/W0103/w0103.asp
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