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ChinUp




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PostPosted: Sun, 22nd Oct 2006 02:42    Post subject: Real or fake ?
I wonder ..



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Jenni
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PostPosted: Sun, 22nd Oct 2006 02:49    Post subject:
I don't believe in ghosts, so fake I reckon.


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PostPosted: Sun, 22nd Oct 2006 02:58    Post subject:
I suppose it depends on what you think a ghost is I guess .. I know sound can travel .. so when you hear it there isn’t any obvious source of the sound .. perhaps ghosts are like that .. a ripple .. some kind of echo

I don’t know myself .. never seen one .. Neutral


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PostPosted: Sun, 22nd Oct 2006 03:08    Post subject:
Superstition is a sign of a mind that's been open for long enough to let the taint come and stay.


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PostPosted: Sun, 22nd Oct 2006 03:20    Post subject:
dominae wrote:
Superstition is a sign of a mind that's been open for long enough to let the taint come and stay.
taint Confused please elaborate on this .. your not making any sense .. to me


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PostPosted: Sun, 22nd Oct 2006 03:58    Post subject:
taint = stain
dirty mind = gullible mind Cool

I believe in ghosts. But I've done ghostly pictures with a slr and a digicam so I know they can be easily faked. Even those old ones. It's easier on those. Smile


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PostPosted: Sun, 22nd Oct 2006 04:09    Post subject:
what is the dirt you speak of ? What is it your afraid will "taint" you ?


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PostPosted: Sun, 22nd Oct 2006 04:34    Post subject:
Belief in ghosts taints the mind. Belief in superstition taints the mind.

I don't know. He said it. My mind is a muddy swamp according to him Laughing


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PostPosted: Sun, 22nd Oct 2006 04:53    Post subject:
I don't see any ghosts in that photo.
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PostPosted: Sun, 22nd Oct 2006 05:05    Post subject:
I can see 3 different faces in that photo, use your imagination dammit Smile
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PostPosted: Sun, 22nd Oct 2006 05:19    Post subject:
lol, there is only 1 as far as i can see and he's sitting in the chair
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PostPosted: Sun, 22nd Oct 2006 06:31    Post subject:
It's easily forged. Long exposure time. Fella was in chair for first 20 seconds. Then he left. And the actual lighting did it's own job. You can see the light in the background trying to take over. Laughing

Pictur is super fake Cool I could make one Wink


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PostPosted: Sun, 22nd Oct 2006 06:49    Post subject:
pistolshrimp wrote:
I don't see any ghosts in that photo.


ditto

looks like a simple old photo to me...fake tho i think


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PostPosted: Sun, 22nd Oct 2006 06:59    Post subject:
The person is clearly transparent. that's what makes him a "ghost". Smile Razz


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PostPosted: Sun, 22nd Oct 2006 07:41    Post subject:
ChinUp wrote:
dominae wrote:
Superstition is a sign of a mind that's been open for long enough to let the taint come and stay.
taint Confused please elaborate on this .. your not making any sense .. to me


Simple,

if you leave your eyes open for too long, you go blind (or start imagining seeing things).

In any case, if it's an old photo, it might as well be that the camera is old, the film is old, and the fact that old equipment is more prone to double-exposure and haphazards that yield final products, that some people spend way too much of their time confuzed about.

Reality is, it's as real as your faith. If you want to believe in ghosts, they're real to you.

However, this is what I would define as taint. As it is simply not real to me.
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PostPosted: Sun, 22nd Oct 2006 07:50    Post subject:
"Well into the 20th century, spirit photography had high-profile supporters--including the physicist Sir William Crookes and the creator of Sherlock Holmes, Sir Arthur Conan Doyle. Many of the photographs in this exhibition were made under test conditions thought to rule out possible fraudulent acts.

But the skeptics took their toll. Led by the great illusionist Harry Houdini, investigators unmasked spirit mediums, revealing many of their "manifestations" to be nothing more than cynical tricks and sleight-of-hand.

And yet-- there are people who still believe. Some cling to the hope of contacting a departed relative. Others buy books purporting to show modern-day photographs of ghosts. Television "documentaries" claim to reveal contemporary cases of hauntings. A young film actor whispers "I see dead people" and millions feel a chill go up their spines."

http://www.ghostresearch.org/ghostpics/
Just some fun and weird photos.

http://www.photographymuseum.com/seance.html
And some science...or seance perhaps.... Wink


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PostPosted: Sun, 22nd Oct 2006 09:15    Post subject:
it could surely be a real photo but there is no ghost present. It’s either a poorly developed/shot photo or a planned photo that toys with exposure to make the appearance of the 'ghost'.

My guess it that it is merely a poorly shot photo that serendipitously captured something that the imagination finds human like.

So I voted fake.


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PostPosted: Sun, 22nd Oct 2006 11:48    Post subject:
fake
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PostPosted: Sun, 22nd Oct 2006 13:13    Post subject:

OMG IT HAS TWO GHOSTS IN IT Surprised


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PostPosted: Sun, 22nd Oct 2006 13:35    Post subject:
LOL!!
I had to look for a while to see what you did.


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PostPosted: Sun, 22nd Oct 2006 14:02    Post subject:
excellent work Hfric .. Laughing
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dominae .. you sound as if you think faith in anything beyond ordinary proofs is unclean .. I wonder how you would deal with solitude for long periods of time .. how would you cope with the loneliness .. if you feel any faith in there being more to life than meat the eye .. is wrong & dirty ..while I was on the road alone & living in very real solitude .. it was my ability to embrace the mystery of life as a friend .. that got me though .. to claim silence & solitude are empty of meaning is shortsighted in my experience .. silence can be a spring from which one can drink .. a spring that few can even perceive in the noisy inhabited places people live .. seems to me if you can embrace the emptiness in things .. you will never be lonely ever again .. because being alone (without other people around) is just a switch of company ..

What did the ocean say to the beach .. nothing it just waved .. Twisted Evil
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so you think this guy is fake too .. John of God .. Brazil

he apparently communicates with ghosts who help him heal people ..

I just don’t know either way myself Neutral


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PostPosted: Sun, 22nd Oct 2006 17:52    Post subject:
mr. fatcat is dead Confused
or it's his granpa? Laughing
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PostPosted: Sun, 22nd Oct 2006 20:10    Post subject:
Jesus christ, I must be fuckin blind.

I dont see anyghosts or any transparent people or anything. I see white and black and a chair and other non living objects


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PostPosted: Sun, 22nd Oct 2006 20:31    Post subject:
SycoShaman wrote:
Jesus christ, I must be fuckin blind.

I dont see anyghosts or any transparent people or anything. I see white and black and a chair and other non living objects




look in the chair .. no legs .. just an arm on the rest & a bolding head ..


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PostPosted: Sun, 22nd Oct 2006 20:46    Post subject:
@chin

I see it now. It could be a ghost. Or maybe an image super imposed on the original?

I still vote fake


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PostPosted: Sun, 22nd Oct 2006 21:42    Post subject:
i was hoping to see a big pair of boobs.

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PostPosted: Sun, 22nd Oct 2006 21:53    Post subject:
WaldoJ wrote:
It's easily forged. Long exposure time. Fella was in chair for first 20 seconds. Then he left. And the actual lighting did it's own job. You can see the light in the background trying to take over. Laughing

Pictur is super fake Cool I could make one Wink


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PostPosted: Sun, 22nd Oct 2006 22:16    Post subject:
ChinUp wrote:

dominae .. you sound as if you think faith in anything beyond ordinary proofs is unclean


I am saying that having your mind open for long enough, so you start believing in ghosts, you've managed to taint it. You simply no longer can determine what is real, and what is not. For all you know, the hobbits might exist in real life, and Tolkien might've just written a book about a real world that exists in a paralel dimension to this one.

What I'm saying is that if you go there, everything will be possible. And I suppose it's comfortable in a way.

I however think anyone who opens his mind for all of this, might as well believe in talking reindeers.

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.. I wonder how you would deal with solitude for long periods of time .. how would you cope with the loneliness ..


When you're in a period of utter desperation, you use -any means possible- to survive. If that means believing in talking animals, or that you have a friendly goblin that kills your enemies, then so be it. No one can tell you that you shouldn't.

However, it is one thing to do it to survive. And a complete different thing to start looking at random pictures pointing at a double-exposure, and going: "Omfg!!1 Ghost!".

Then you're simply tricking the mind, simply because you want something to exist. Not because it really does. And that's a taint, imo.
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PostPosted: Sun, 22nd Oct 2006 22:47    Post subject:
Agreed.. its jumping to conclusions that’s the mistake .. its not absurd to simply pay attention to as much as you can .. who can tell what we are looking @ & listening to .. feel .. our senses are limited .. our understanding of how much data we absorb .. who knows what going on around us we can feel but we cant see or hear .. so long as we don’t jump to any conclusions we not "tainted" right ?

Like watching a move or reading a book & not letting yourself guess what’s going to happen .. or believe anything is actually as it seems .. because with the next twist you would be proven to have fallen for a ruse .. Very Happy


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