Classical music.....
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Jenni
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PostPosted: Wed, 18th Oct 2006 03:45    Post subject: Classical music.....
Is it copyrighted?

I say no. A friend says it is.

Solve the argument.


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PostPosted: Wed, 18th Oct 2006 03:57    Post subject:
Copyright dies 150 or 100 years after the person dies Smile

It's free to the public then. You pay for cd's tho. Neutral

But it isn't copyrighted.


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PostPosted: Wed, 18th Oct 2006 03:57    Post subject: Re: Classical music.....
Jenni wrote:
Is it copyrighted?

I say no. A friend says it is.

Solve the argument.


Not 100% sure but it shouldn't be as the copyrights expire after 50yrs or so here in the UK. So unless anyone else buys the rights for another 5oyrs, then no.
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PostPosted: Wed, 18th Oct 2006 03:59    Post subject:
Yay I'm right as always.


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PostPosted: Wed, 18th Oct 2006 03:59    Post subject:
50?


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PostPosted: Wed, 18th Oct 2006 04:07    Post subject:
I have a distant memory of hearing that on the news, yes. However, different categories may have diff copyright rules..?
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PostPosted: Wed, 18th Oct 2006 04:11    Post subject:
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A creative work is protected from the moment of its initial fixing in a tangible form through the length of the author's life plus an additional 70 years following the author's death. In cases of a joint work, the rights endure for 70 years following the death of the longest surviving author.

The "70 year rule" allows an author's family or beneficiaries to collect royalties even after the author has passed away.

Due to changes in copyright law in the past, different rules apply to works created prior to January 1, 1978. Different rules also apply to works made for hire.
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PostPosted: Wed, 18th Oct 2006 06:01    Post subject:
I thought they changed it to 90 years or something.

But can't they renew it or something? i thought disney did that a lot.


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PostPosted: Wed, 18th Oct 2006 10:17    Post subject:
If its atleast 50 year after the composer died, then so does its rights.

edit: ask TheSaint, he's a lawyer.


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PostPosted: Wed, 18th Oct 2006 11:19    Post subject:
I quite like classical music which Ive always thought was odd for someone of my age.


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PostPosted: Wed, 18th Oct 2006 11:48    Post subject:
I listen to classical music 50% of the time, it's just pure genius.
I think that the music in itself is right free, but a record or a copy of a sheetbook is prohibited, because SOMEONE had to play this music, record it, make CD's and such...
So if you download a song, it's still illegal I think...


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PostPosted: Wed, 18th Oct 2006 17:04    Post subject:
If i'm not mistaken the notes are not copyrighted, but the music is.
Which means, it's illegal to copy the music but it's legal to copy the notes.
After all someone had to play this music, publish it on CDs and etc..
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PostPosted: Wed, 18th Oct 2006 17:51    Post subject:
headshot wrote:
I quite like classical music which Ive always thought was odd for someone of my age.


Classical music is pretty much timeless. I know alot of people who like it, in the right situations of course.


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PostPosted: Wed, 18th Oct 2006 18:27    Post subject:
skidrow wrote:
If its atleast 50 year after the composer died, then so does its rights.

edit: ask TheSaint, he's a lawyer.


Lol im not lawyer, i study law. Anyways i havent got any copyright materiel yet. Its a specific thing you must choose, i chose criminal law.
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PostPosted: Wed, 18th Oct 2006 18:38    Post subject:
TheSaint wrote:
skidrow wrote:
If its atleast 50 year after the composer died, then so does its rights.

edit: ask TheSaint, he's a lawyer.


Lol im not lawyer, i study law. Anyways i havent got any copyright materiel yet. Its a specific thing you must choose, i chose criminal law.


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PostPosted: Thu, 19th Oct 2006 03:22    Post subject:
when you buy classical music, you are paying the artist, not the composer (obviously). it's the musician who you are defrauding if you download.

imagine all the churches being sued by big lawyer firms for singing god rest ye merry gentlemen at christmas.


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PostPosted: Wed, 25th Oct 2006 01:52    Post subject:
TheSaint wrote:
skidrow wrote:
If its atleast 50 year after the composer died, then so does its rights.

edit: ask TheSaint, he's a lawyer.


Lol im not lawyer, i study law. Anyways i havent got any copyright materiel yet. Its a specific thing you must choose, i chose criminal law.


Criminal Law in Columbia huh? Good choice, uber money. Just uhm...don't get shot for prosecuting/defending (or failing to) the wrong types of people Very Happy


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PostPosted: Wed, 25th Oct 2006 02:58    Post subject:
TheSaint wrote:
skidrow wrote:
If its atleast 50 year after the composer died, then so does its rights.

edit: ask TheSaint, he's a lawyer.


Lol im not lawyer, i study law. Anyways i havent got any copyright materiel yet. Its a specific thing you must choose, i chose criminal law.


really? Very Happy colleague!! Razz
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lol @ you guys thinking thesaint is actually from columbia Wink


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PostPosted: Sun, 29th Oct 2006 14:14    Post subject:
CobbMk2 wrote:
TheSaint wrote:
skidrow wrote:
If its atleast 50 year after the composer died, then so does its rights.

edit: ask TheSaint, he's a lawyer.


Lol im not lawyer, i study law. Anyways i havent got any copyright materiel yet. Its a specific thing you must choose, i chose criminal law.


A criminal lawyer? God save us all Very Happy


Isn't the word criminal in there pretty redundant?
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PostPosted: Sun, 29th Oct 2006 21:08    Post subject:
Yes, it is copyrighted. The music you hear on CD's was not recorded 90 years ago.
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PostPosted: Sun, 29th Oct 2006 21:32    Post subject:
Mchart wrote:
Yes, it is copyrighted. The music you hear on CD's was not recorded 90 years ago.


No shit sherlock
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PostPosted: Sun, 29th Oct 2006 22:40    Post subject:
TheSaint wrote:
Mchart wrote:
Yes, it is copyrighted. The music you hear on CD's was not recorded 90 years ago.


No shit sherlock


I was simply answering the fucking question that the OP posted, Watson.
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Hmmm we got Watson and we got Sherlock... all we need now is the fucking dog!
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PostPosted: Thu, 2nd Nov 2006 23:27    Post subject:
amm like no offence and shit but like ... classical music sucks donkey balls and such .. and im serious ... and like , you cant really listen to classical music anyways because it makes like crap run down from your ears and such ..
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PostPosted: Thu, 2nd Nov 2006 23:50    Post subject:
quickmix wrote:
amm like no offence and shit but like ... classical music sucks donkey balls and such .. and im serious ... and like , you cant really listen to classical music anyways because it makes like crap run down from your ears and such ..


I would be so happy if I could dump you in a pool of lava.


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PostPosted: Thu, 2nd Nov 2006 23:53    Post subject: Re: Classical music.....
Jenni wrote:
Is it copyrighted?

I say no. A friend says it is.

Solve the argument.


as some others tried to state already, it s a mixed bag really.

There is no copyright in itself on the music, so as a musician you are free to play and/or record and sell it anyway and anywhere you want.

But if you want to "use" newly recorded classical music, you lll have to ask the people who recorded it.

Same goes with the original score. While it is ok to reproduce some or all of it, you arent allowed to completly copy and redistribute a full book that has been published by somebody else.
And often you cant get the original score without going to the heirs of the work of classical composers to get to the sheets.
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PostPosted: Fri, 3rd Nov 2006 10:03    Post subject:
quickmix wrote:
amm like no offence and shit but like ... classical music sucks donkey balls and such .. and im serious ... and like , you cant really listen to classical music anyways because it makes like crap run down from your ears and such ..


Your music tastes suck. Go listen to some Britney Spears or Shakira.
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PostPosted: Fri, 3rd Nov 2006 11:53    Post subject:
X_Dror wrote:
quickmix wrote:
amm like no offence and shit but like ... classical music sucks donkey balls and such .. and im serious ... and like , you cant really listen to classical music anyways because it makes like crap run down from your ears and such ..


Your music tastes suck. Go listen to some Britney Spears or Shakira.


It would be even funnier if he is metal music fan Wink


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