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 Posted: Sun, 15th Oct 2006 02:59 Post subject: Bit torrent beIng watched. HOw safe is newsgroups |
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I recently know a guy got letter cause he downloaded a part of a xbox game. His isp sent laetter namming file exact time etc. Sad part he dont even have a xbox.
Point is they are tracking people. He called isp. And isp there is no way they can know if guy own this or not. jsut really a warnign they have to send. ANd that compnies are attach some kind of trackers. I saw the letter.
How much safer are newgroups And i dont want to be sued or get trouble for my kid downloadign a stupid song while im at work.
How can i be complety private with newsgroups? And also HAS anyoen else had same trouble? Does news groups or isp have abilty to know exact file you get . I dont know differnce bewtween bit torrent or newsgroups thank you.
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| Posted: Sun, 15th Oct 2006 03:07 Post subject: |
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Bit torrents have been watched for a very very long time now. LOL, you seem surprised that it is.
torrents are for newbies and noobs, newsgroups are a bit more advanced. I don't think there is a way to be complety private when d/l. Some methods are just safer.
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Rinze
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| Posted: Sun, 15th Oct 2006 03:07 Post subject: |
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Newsgroup downloads can be tracked by your ISP, but not by a third party. Uploads can be tracked by a third party for newsgroups.
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deelix
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| Posted: Sun, 15th Oct 2006 08:19 Post subject: |
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A friend of mine is using the schoolnetwork to upload when he's home. Guess he's in trubble if they find out he have been uploading 500gb :\
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A-A
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CaptainCox
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| Posted: Sun, 15th Oct 2006 14:19 Post subject: |
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Actually what would be the best way to "hide" Proxy, Software or any other cool tricks ?
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Zino
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| Posted: Sun, 15th Oct 2006 14:32 Post subject: |
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| CaptainCox wrote: | | Actually what would be the best way to "hide" Proxy, Software or any other cool tricks ? |
Probably some combination of proxys and software.
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CaptainCox
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| Posted: Sun, 15th Oct 2006 14:40 Post subject: |
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hm. any more specific combo perhaps 
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Macknu
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| Posted: Sun, 15th Oct 2006 15:59 Post subject: |
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Darknet or wathever its called maybe?
Dont care to much since it's cuite safe here, got nothing to worry about.
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| Posted: Sun, 15th Oct 2006 16:16 Post subject: |
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It's been like that for a very long time. However, it's mostly legal posing without much substance. If they try and take you to court there's some arguments you can put foward that will give them some trouble. IIRC some dude who runs a huge site is doing that. They're sending out threats, extorting millions from ordinary users without having the legal right. It's an outrage.
Just read the post again, ISP's sending these letters? They dont' have to send them at all, the copyright holder does. Going even crazier.
And newsgroups are completely safe, there's no way to tell what you're downloading unless the server gives you up. Some servers even support SSL.
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| Posted: Sun, 15th Oct 2006 17:56 Post subject: |
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Here in sweden the "Antipiratbyrån" the swedish version of MPAA is aiming at the scene, so I feel safe with my ~800GB monthly uploading.
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| Posted: Sun, 15th Oct 2006 18:05 Post subject: |
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the difference between newsgroups and torrents site is than newsgroups costs money no?
in israel we meanwhile r downloding free
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| Posted: Sun, 15th Oct 2006 18:26 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Sun, 15th Oct 2006 18:30 Post subject: |
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I agree about the ISP’s sending the letters. They don’t have to but they do to protect their own butt.
Can you use a proxy with newsgroups? I didn’t think you could.
Personally I think RIAA/MPAA and the like are going after the noobie stuff, like limewire, KaZaza (sp whatever) torrents...
I am glad I live in Canada where I don’t have to care about this shit, No?
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| Posted: Sun, 15th Oct 2006 18:38 Post subject: |
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| pistolshrimp wrote: |
Can you use a proxy with newsgroups? I didn’t think you could.
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Sure you can, as long as you are using a Socks 4 or 5 proxy. Just hack some fast machine in Asia or another country far far away and install mpx on it. Then leech and no moron can sue your ass. I did this when faking usenet accs, they never caught me although I did well over 2000€ of damage. I got a cheap payaccount now, no more faking and I'm not using proxies anymore. As long as you don't spread childporn usenet is very safe anyway. (at the moment)
4GB i7 860 @3.0 GTX275 AMP
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[sYn]
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| Posted: Sun, 15th Oct 2006 18:54 Post subject: |
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Darknet is the only truly safe way to download, and that is not 100% secure. Thats the nature of the Internet, and in fact any system created by man.. they all have weaknesses.
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deelix
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| Posted: Sun, 15th Oct 2006 19:15 Post subject: |
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| BushDoctor wrote: | | Here in sweden the "Antipiratbyrån" the swedish version of MPAA is aiming at the scene, so I feel safe with my ~800GB monthly uploading. |
HAH! YOU GOT A CAP!!!
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Zino
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| Posted: Sun, 15th Oct 2006 20:39 Post subject: |
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| BushDoctor wrote: | | Here in sweden the "Antipiratbyrån" the swedish version of MPAA is aiming at the scene, so I feel safe with my ~800GB monthly uploading. |
Lets hope they change the law so it becomes legal to download again. Not that i have change my life-style anything but it would be nice if it was legal as before.
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Macknu
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| Posted: Sun, 15th Oct 2006 21:19 Post subject: |
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I dont see when usenet wont be safe? there are no third parties that can see it unless they physically hack into or have access to your browsing habits. Which would be illegal, unless they said they were going to do this first.
Further if this starts happening pay servers will just introduce SSL to keep their customer base. Lots have already.
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Zino
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Macknu
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Zino
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| Posted: Sun, 15th Oct 2006 22:02 Post subject: |
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| Macknu wrote: | | So far the law means nothing so its legal. APB aint allowed to track you down, and they cant prove you download so a court wont take the case. |
APB are allowed to download files from other people and then recording that download arent they? Isnt that what they always have done?
As i understand it, there was just that one case where they had bad evidence so they had to release the guy that was charged. However this might mean that courts might not want to take any more of these cases for a while.
Anyway the chances of getting caught in sweden is less than winning the lottery right now since almost no money is spent on searching for people.
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Macknu
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| Posted: Sun, 15th Oct 2006 22:23 Post subject: |
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| Zino wrote: | | Macknu wrote: | | So far the law means nothing so its legal. APB aint allowed to track you down, and they cant prove you download so a court wont take the case. |
APB are allowed to download files from other people and then recording that download arent they? Isnt that what they always have done?
As i understand it, there was just that one case where they had bad evidence so they had to release the guy that was charged. However this might mean that courts might not want to take any more of these cases for a while.
Anyway the chances of getting caught in sweden is less than winning the lottery right now since almost no money is spent on searching for people. |
Dont think their alowed to do that anymore.
Court decided that the evidence aint enough, that means they need to prove You are the one downloading it (or that you confess). And that is simply nothing they can do, unless they crash in your door while your downloading but their not allowed to do that when their just suspect your downloading.
So basicly that makes it legal since they have no way of getting to you even if you download the movies for APB servers. Same as walking at röd gubbe, its illegal but theres no punishment for doing it so police cant arrest you for walking at red even if they standing next to you watching you going against red.
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