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Macknu
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 Posted: Tue, 19th Sep 2006 19:21 Post subject: WTF is it about american companies?? |
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I work for a, no idea what its called like Manpower, and im rented to an americanowned company here. Inside the entire industy you have to wear protective goggles, now why in the hell is that?
Theres nothing flying around, its like any other factory making stuff.
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Bigperm
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| Posted: Tue, 19th Sep 2006 19:27 Post subject: |
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Its called your PPE; you probably have to wear steal toe boots as well. ITs all about liability, and standards. I have worked at some places that wont even allow you to jump off a 2 foot loading dock. Alot of companies also give bonus based on safe days worked. Shell is one of them. I used to do the inspections at there grease plant. Had to have steal toes, Nomex (Or orther fire proof coverals), goggles and aproved gloves and liners.
PPE - Personal Protective Equipment.
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Macknu
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| Posted: Tue, 19th Sep 2006 19:32 Post subject: |
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Yup steal toe boots i wear but those i can understand, trucks driving around heavy loading pallets (thats what those things called right?) and other heavy stuff can easily drop on your toes but your eyes? Are they woried im gonna stop a finger in my eye and sue them?
I mean ive been around on some places and never ever have there been any place where you need goggles simply becouse your eyes arnt in harms way.
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SycoShaman
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| Posted: Tue, 19th Sep 2006 21:47 Post subject: |
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Dude, safetly glasses are esstential. Even in a warehouse.
You know how many times ive heard guys say the samething "I dont need safety glasses" and then all of a sudden a wood chip from a skid or a fragment of something is stirred up nd ends up in their eyes...
Always wear safetly glass.
There's nothing wrong with being safe. Like at my old work. in the 3 days i was there, 2 guys had to go to the hospital to get slag (stuff from welding, flux core welding) removed from their eyes. They are stupid, wouldnt wear glasses. When you clean a weld, hot slag and spatter fly around...and usually into your face.
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werdercanuck
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| Posted: Tue, 19th Sep 2006 21:53 Post subject: |
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yep, happened to me  a tiny hot metal splinter flew into my eye and burnt right in. just cleaned a weld with a metal grinder, always was too lazy to put glasses on for that, and wondered why my eye started to tear like crazy. it didnt hurt at all, was just uncomfortable. and a coworker said you better go to the doc. he examined my eye and said that a metal splinter burnt right in, had to remove it with a tiny drill
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SycoShaman
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| Posted: Tue, 19th Sep 2006 21:59 Post subject: |
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| werdercanuck wrote: | | yep, happened to me a tiny hot metal splinter flew into my eye and burnt right in. just cleaned a weld with a metal grinder, always was too lazy to put glasses on for that, and wondered why my eye started to tear like crazy. it didnt hurt at all, was just uncomfortable. and a coworker said you better go to the doc. he examined my eye and said that a metal splinter burnt right in, had to remove it with a tiny drill |
Yep, same shit has happened to me to. When I first started welding. I was wearing safety glasses and the guy i was working with made fun of me and said you dont need safety glasses as Im welding and my shield will protect me.
I put down a few welds and everything was fine. Had to weld an overhead T joint. As I started welding, the spatter fell into my shield and one got in my eye
Worst pain ever and I thought i was going to go blind.
Ever since then, I never take my glasses of when Im at work.
I cant take shit happening to my eyes
Why would you take your glasses of when your grinding? I dont get it. Thats one thing the majority of people use glasses for. |
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werdercanuck
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| Posted: Tue, 19th Sep 2006 22:03 Post subject: |
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i didnt put them on in the first place  was welding with a shield and had to clean it with a grinder, put the shield down and the glasses were at the other end of the shop, too lazy to get them
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Bigperm
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| Posted: Tue, 19th Sep 2006 22:04 Post subject: |
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I remember when i was at the Shell Grease plant. I was inspecting there truck scale. ITs way out in the yard with nothing around it for about 150 meters. I was running the crane to move around some 500KG test weights. I decieded it was to hot for my hardhat; and in the mean time i took of my clear safety glasses and was walking to my truck to get my tinted glasses.
I had my hardhat and glasses off for maybe say 3 minutes, and bam; i have this safety coordinator running out of the plant to give me shit about my PPE. I was like, im in a open field, and im just going to get my shades. Fucker almost ran me off the job until i called over the engineer i was working under at the plant.
I used to have the old farts at cargil foods make fun of me because ii wore ear plugs and i used my hardhat muffs. My answer to them was, its my fucking ears, so yea..im gonna protect them. So just think of that, its your eyes, head, feet etc, so make sure your covered. Becasue shit happens when you least expect it.
Heck i used to wear a full mask at sulfur plant customers, and barley any of them even wore glasses.
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SycoShaman
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| Posted: Tue, 19th Sep 2006 22:07 Post subject: |
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| werdercanuck wrote: | | i didnt put them on in the first place was welding with a shield and had to clean it with a grinder, put the shield down and the glasses were at the other end of the shop, too lazy to get them |
I didnt know you weld. What kinda welding? Mig, tig, stick, flux? mechanical or structural welding? |
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werdercanuck
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| Posted: Tue, 19th Sep 2006 22:10 Post subject: |
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in the shop tig and on site stick, mostly structural shit
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SycoShaman
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| Posted: Tue, 19th Sep 2006 22:14 Post subject: |
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| werdercanuck wrote: | | in the shop tig and on site stick, mostly structural shit |
Sick.
You did structural shit with tig? Like what? I dont think ive ever seen tig used on structual steel. Usually its stick, flux or mig (mig sucks for structural cause you can only push and not drag righ...well, you can drag it but not alot of people know how). |
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werdercanuck
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| Posted: Tue, 19th Sep 2006 22:18 Post subject: |
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mostly we did, gates, fences, railings...that kind of shit. we also did doors and windows using aluminium, i hated that work (maybe it was mig of flux, im not that familiar with the english terms  )
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Esel_Gesi
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| Posted: Tue, 19th Sep 2006 22:18 Post subject: |
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yup, all about liability. the company would also like to see you making a profit for them instead of being a drain on their bank account when you are collecting disability checks cause you decided safety goggles weren't important. In the insulation shop i work in even when you have goggles/glasses on there is still the potential to get fiberglass and or metal in your eyes.
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SycoShaman
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| Posted: Tue, 19th Sep 2006 22:22 Post subject: |
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| werdercanuck wrote: | | mostly we did, gates, fences, railings...that kind of shit. we also did doors and windows using aluminium, i hated that work (maybe it was mig of flux, im not that familiar with the english terms ) |
oh. Doors and fences arent structural. When I say structural, I mean joists and support columns for buildings and stuff, you know?
Flux is basically the same as mig. Just different wire and different volts and wire speeds.
And you can drag it and push it.
Its usually a .045 thick grey wire |
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werdercanuck
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| Posted: Tue, 19th Sep 2006 22:25 Post subject: |
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nah, we didnt do that. it was a very small company, we were only 10 men and mostly did small work, barely on big construction sites
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Esel_Gesi
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| Posted: Tue, 19th Sep 2006 22:30 Post subject: |
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Oh yea and if you ever work in a steel mill or oil refinery in the states you better believe there are going to be some high safety standards. Some places require a 3 hour safety class, nomex suits, glasses, etc. just to measure or put on insulation. If you are going to be more than a few feet off the ground they require safety harnesses and whatnot. The way I see it is better safe than sorry.
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SycoShaman
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| Posted: Tue, 19th Sep 2006 22:35 Post subject: |
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| Esel_Gesi wrote: | | Oh yea and if you ever work in a steel mill or oil refinery in the states you better believe there are going to be some high safety standards. Some places require a 3 hour safety class, nomex suits, glasses, etc. just to measure or put on insulation. If you are going to be more than a few feet off the ground they require safety harnesses and whatnot. The way I see it is better safe than sorry. |
The safe than sorry part reminds me of something i saw.
I was working at this place years ago and we made these machines that chop and grate all kinds of plastic material back into plastic pebbles.
Each blade was like 2000 pounds and 10 inches thick (or something close to that) and there 10 blades (on a mid sized machine).
Anyway, we're standing around on break on day and on of the electrical guys had just finished a machine. He turned it on to make sure it worked and then turned it off.
As the blade is slowing down, his idiot friend say something to the effect of "i bet you cant stop the blade with your hand". So what did the idiot do? Stuck his hand in and grabbed on of the blades. Suffice to say, he lost his hand.
Being safe is vital |
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Esel_Gesi
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| Posted: Tue, 19th Sep 2006 22:41 Post subject: |
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That's brutal. Even when working with a small band saw I keep my hands as far away from it as possible. I saw a guy lose his thumb because he was being careless on a band saw.
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SycoShaman
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| Posted: Tue, 19th Sep 2006 22:45 Post subject: |
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| Esel_Gesi wrote: | | That's brutal. Even when working with a small band saw I keep my hands as far away from it as possible. I saw a guy lose his thumb because he was being careless on a band saw. |
He lost his finger on a band saw? wtf?
Thats retarded.
Ive never seen anyone hurt themselves on a band saw...well, i have, but it was from a peice of metal flying back at them or something. Metal slivers and shit.
Still, I almost lost my finger on a grinder. I was beveaking a peice of steel and had no glove on. The grinder got caught on something, skipped off the metal and ran across the middle knuckle of my index finger. Funny enough, even tho you could see the bone and everything, it didnt hurt. I think the heat from the blade cotorized (spelling?) the wound. |
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werdercanuck
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| Posted: Tue, 19th Sep 2006 23:08 Post subject: |
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we werent even allowed to wear gloves when drilling holes into metal because...one my coworkers had to drill some holes into a metal plate and was wearing gloves, well the metal that came out got caught up in his glove and he couldnt reach the button to turn the drill off in time. long story short, it ripped his thumb right off his hand...what a mess that was
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SycoShaman
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| Posted: Wed, 20th Sep 2006 00:22 Post subject: |
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| pistolshrimp wrote: | I believe in Canada if you aren’t following safety regulations I don’t think you qualify for workers comp.
When I was working I used to not wear gloves in emergency. More when I first started, the old timers still don’t. If was harder to find a vein if someone is in shock or has low blood pressure you couldn’t feel anything with a glove. I started wearing them for my own health but I cut out the index finger of the glove.
If I was ever transferring body fluids from a syringe I did it with one hand behind my back so I wouldn’t poke myself. They are finding out a lot more health care workers have been infected with HIV while working then previously though.
I have seen my share of work related accidents........ Guys falling through ree-bar |
That would be scary. Running the risk of infecting yourself with aids i crazy.
I dont think someone could give me enough money to take a risk like that. |
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SycoShaman
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| Posted: Wed, 20th Sep 2006 00:23 Post subject: |
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| werdercanuck wrote: | | we werent even allowed to wear gloves when drilling holes into metal because...one my coworkers had to drill some holes into a metal plate and was wearing gloves, well the metal that came out got caught up in his glove and he couldnt reach the button to turn the drill off in time. long story short, it ripped his thumb right off his hand...what a mess that was |
Yeah, some drills and machines your not supposed to wear gloves. But while your working and welding your supposed to. I dont wear a glove on my right hand tho. Only on my life because my left is my guide hand is right next to the weld usually.
My right hand is as tough as nails. Ive had so many cuts and burns on it, its big callous now |
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Macknu
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SycoShaman
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| Posted: Wed, 20th Sep 2006 18:00 Post subject: |
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| Macknu wrote: | | SycoShaman wrote: | Dude, safetly glasses are esstential. Even in a warehouse.
You know how many times ive heard guys say the samething "I dont need safety glasses" and then all of a sudden a wood chip from a skid or a fragment of something is stirred up nd ends up in their eyes...
Always wear safetly glass.
There's nothing wrong with being safe. Like at my old work. in the 3 days i was there, 2 guys had to go to the hospital to get slag (stuff from welding, flux core welding) removed from their eyes. They are stupid, wouldnt wear glasses. When you clean a weld, hot slag and spatter fly around...and usually into your face. |
lol in a warehouse?
Like i said, theirs nothing flying around. No metal chip or wood chip or any other thing, theirs just no way anything can hurt your eye unless you walk straight into something, just as in warehouses there just isnt any danger for your eyes. |
All sorts of weird shit can happen man. Trust me, Ive seen a buncha wacked out shit.Skids break and send slivers of wood flying and shit
Its better to wear the glasses and be safe rather than not being safe and perhaps injuring yourself.
Dont you really want to take the chance of losing your eyesight?
I know it sounds a bit dramatic, but it could happen |
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Macknu
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| Posted: Wed, 20th Sep 2006 21:59 Post subject: |
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| SycoShaman wrote: | | Macknu wrote: | | SycoShaman wrote: | Dude, safetly glasses are esstential. Even in a warehouse.
You know how many times ive heard guys say the samething "I dont need safety glasses" and then all of a sudden a wood chip from a skid or a fragment of something is stirred up nd ends up in their eyes...
Always wear safetly glass.
There's nothing wrong with being safe. Like at my old work. in the 3 days i was there, 2 guys had to go to the hospital to get slag (stuff from welding, flux core welding) removed from their eyes. They are stupid, wouldnt wear glasses. When you clean a weld, hot slag and spatter fly around...and usually into your face. |
lol in a warehouse?
Like i said, theirs nothing flying around. No metal chip or wood chip or any other thing, theirs just no way anything can hurt your eye unless you walk straight into something, just as in warehouses there just isnt any danger for your eyes. |
All sorts of weird shit can happen man. Trust me, Ive seen a buncha wacked out shit.Skids break and send slivers of wood flying and shit
Its better to wear the glasses and be safe rather than not being safe and perhaps injuring yourself.
Dont you really want to take the chance of losing your eyesight?
I know it sounds a bit dramatic, but it could happen |
Well if we go in on things that can happen an plane can crash to the roof and hit me in the head so i have no protection against that
I do copperthings (copperwelding, not sure what its called) and have shaded glasses so only wear when i "weld".
But truly if were going in on things that can happen you have to wear an entire knight armorsuit and still you wouldnt be protected to half of the things that just can happen. The glasses are just redicilus and no point at all on wearing them, but thankfully i got shaded so i dont have to wear them walking around.
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nouseforaname
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WTF is it about European companies?
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