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same thing for the french version....
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Epsilon
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| Posted: Sun, 17th Sep 2006 18:55 Post subject: |
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Wrong section, right section is protection bitchin
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| Posted: Sun, 17th Sep 2006 18:55 Post subject: |
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desperados 2 had 5.5 but clone is possible
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| Posted: Sun, 17th Sep 2006 19:02 Post subject: |
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Could someone scan it with protection id (5.1f) and find out if its Tages Basic or with Tages API?
Thanks!
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| Posted: Sun, 17th Sep 2006 19:11 Post subject: |
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i think reloaded can crack it
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| Posted: Sun, 17th Sep 2006 19:11 Post subject: |
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anyway game is dull and boring , has nice gfx but it will be a another Mass RTS with great Idears that will quickly land in the trash zone , like Impossible creatures from Relic
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| Posted: Sun, 17th Sep 2006 19:16 Post subject: |
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| Hfric wrote: | | anyway game is dull and boring , has nice gfx but it will be a another Mass RTS with great Idears that will quickly land in the trash zone , like Impossible creatures from Relic |
exactly :/
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| Posted: Sun, 17th Sep 2006 19:24 Post subject: |
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boring or not .... does anyone know which protection the US vers. will be ?
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| Posted: Sun, 17th Sep 2006 19:25 Post subject: |
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Desperados 2 Coopers Revenge got cracked by a group that calls pcgame
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[sYn]
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| Posted: Sun, 17th Sep 2006 19:27 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Sun, 17th Sep 2006 19:39 Post subject: |
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| shaq13 wrote: | | Desperados 2 Coopers Revenge got cracked by a group that calls pcgame |
They used safecasted exe.
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| Posted: Sun, 17th Sep 2006 20:40 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Sun, 17th Sep 2006 22:36 Post subject: |
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they used the gamesload-version to crack the game.
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| Posted: Mon, 18th Sep 2006 14:07 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Mon, 18th Sep 2006 14:19 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Mon, 18th Sep 2006 14:38 Post subject: |
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reloaded/razor can crack all the safedisc no?...
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| Posted: Mon, 18th Sep 2006 19:20 Post subject: |
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| Freakshow wrote: |
In summ up TAGES is in my eyes the best protection with the most features for a publisher/developer to protect there work from being copied as till today its not possible
to create a backup copy with public avaiable programs (some scene groups might have self made ones like new TETRIS versions or whatever) and if proper applied it takes alot of time to create a crack as you might need to finish the game.
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I don't really know tages so well, it's hardly ever used, that might be why sceners created a program to emulate the twin sectors rather than Alcohol 120% guys, guess tagés aint too popular in mainland china or Ukraine 
The problem is that Tages protection is a "disc" protection, and relies on those twin sectors, once you can indentify which sectors contains the twins, and you can read them, the essence of the protection is broken... All what tagés can do now is to blacklist, even though on their site they explain that blacklisting isn't the solution
Also ALL games that featured tages in 2006 were cracked : Bad Day in LA (from polish unprotected exe from what i understood..) but RLD cracked for good Darkstar One, the mission disc from Act of War, some sheep game from some no namers... etc...
not extactly very impressive...
they need a good AAA title that holds for 2 years like SF had with TOCA 2 & Splinter Cell to establish its brand name
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Brisk
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TheDuck
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| Posted: Fri, 22nd Sep 2006 13:04 Post subject: |
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| Freakshow wrote: | | timmy234 wrote: | Could someone scan it with protection id (5.1f) and find out if its Tages Basic or with Tages API?
Thanks! |
depends what you mean with TAGES API.
there is
TAGES BASIC - API based protection for executables or dlls to prevent a DVD from being copyable -> easy crackable
TAGES ADVANCED - addional APIs used to create 4096 BYTE sized secure Area data registers to protect several data sets -> hard to implement it proper -> crackable but the more sets protected the further you have to play the game
TAGES SDK - seeale as TAGES BASIC + special APIS implemented for Sourcecode + special APIs (TAGESCAP) to implement in precompiled files.
In summ up TAGES is in my eyes the best protection with the most features for a publisher/developer to protect there work from being copied as till today its not possible
to create a backup copy with public avaiable programs (some scene groups might have self made ones like new TETRIS versions or whatever) and if proper applied it takes alot of time to create a crack as you might need to finish the game.
To create your own backupp there are several ways tho which alll lead to the same conclusion:
1. Create a RAW Image of the game CD/DVD (for burning only RAW CD exist yet)
2. Extract the first 25 sectors of the image and DECRYPT the store information about the Secure Data places (starsector, endsector, range)
3. code a tool that is avaiable to read a DVD backwar in RAW mode
4. replace the Secotrs in Image with the Twinsector data read.
5. Burn your CD (mount you DVD with virtual CD 8.*)
For Paraworld (spain version)
The protection level is compareable to Darkstar One with 1 more feature which needs you to play the game alot if not even need to finish it. Dont think RELOADED will crack this. Better pray that the exe goes to some gamesondemand service and uses "only" Activemark or Koch ePolice or Safecast or The Mida ...
as i think everything else is a waste of time. RELOADED didnt crack games yet which needed to get finished (Asterix XXL 2, Echo and Fahrenheit) to make proper cracks and RELOADED isnt that good as you all think they are.  |
You're wrong  RLD cracked Asterix XXL 1 which was exactly same as 2, they finished the game and added api emulator which handled stolen data requests. I guess they didn't crack Axxl2 cus it's too lame to work on 
Paraworld is protected with Tages SDK, so game code calls drivers in order to do silent cd-checks anre requests about 2kb of data (map cycle settings I think), when requests to the driver fails some fake data is used and game might work different. It's also packed with some custom packer, I heard it cracks crackers fingers, so my bet is RLD wont even look at it. Gezzzz. |
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| Posted: Fri, 22nd Sep 2006 13:11 Post subject: |
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so the us version has the same protection as the german one ?
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