[XBOX360] Buy One Tommorrow..
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[sYn]
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PostPosted: Fri, 1st Sep 2006 23:46    Post subject: [XBOX360] Buy One Tommorrow..
Ok so I know someone made a similar thread a seccond ago, but I want my own, and I *will* make an FAQ on all this soon.. i promise.. maybe..

ANYWAY!

If I go out tommorrow, pop into the local game store and buy a second hand Core package (I have NO money..) what can I expect?

- Will I be able to flash the firmware no matter what type of drive it is?
- How hard is this process? I noticed a USB bootable firmware flasher.. ?
- Is a hard drive needed? What is it used for?
- If I found £50 on the street and could afford a premium, can you upgrade said hard drive?
- How many games work? What media/applications are needed? patching the games?
- Anything else you want to add..

Me and a friend are a bit low on cash but are desperate for some gaming.. So we may go in halfs on a second hand core system.. Anyone have any good spots for buying 360's in the UK? Is ebay worth watching?
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PostPosted: Sat, 2nd Sep 2006 00:27    Post subject:
I would really recommend a hard drive, otherwise you can't play all the demos and videos you can get on the standard free live service. Plus, you'll need to buy a memory unit if you don't get a hard drive which will cost a fair amount, and there are plans for games to use it in aiding performance and such.

They are really hard to get hold of outside of a premium package too, at least in the UK anyway.


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Stormwolf




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PostPosted: Sat, 2nd Sep 2006 00:52    Post subject:
- Yes, you can
- If you get a Hitachi drive then its fairly easy, its a bit harder with samsung tho.. If you get a hitachi i recommend getting a xecuter connectivity kit so it will be easier to get the drive in mode b so it will be shown in windows.. Anyways if you get a hitachi then download this firmware:
OPA-XTREME-HITACHI-7IN1-V2_1

- As animalmother stated, harddrive is important! if not you cant save in games or anything so get one Wink
- Most of the games are prepatched. Sometimes you need to manually merge the ss file (security sector) with the iso file if it isnt done.
- Good luck Wink
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Subander




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PostPosted: Sat, 2nd Sep 2006 00:57    Post subject:
1. Yes all known drives can be flashed. This is bound to change in the future to prevent hacking.

2. Not hard if your mobo has a compatible SATA chipset. You need to get your 360 open, and either buy a SATA/power adaptor or use your 360 to power the drive while its hooked to your PC via a standard SATA cable.

3. Hard drive is used for storing your profile(gamertag), saves, demos, arcade games, music.

4. No hardware upgrade available yet, but its fully detachable and interoperable to other 360 units. An upgrade drive is pretty much expected in the coming months (60-100GB?). Until a real modchip comes out you cant just "upgrade" with a random laptop drive.

5. All extreme-method ripped games work. So all scene rels since may of this year.

6. Get a premium. The cordless controller is a must, the hdd is a must (play some demos while you burn, or something). I thought the cordless wasnt a good idea at first but I'd never go back now.. best controller EVAH.[/quote]
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4me2




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PostPosted: Sat, 2nd Sep 2006 01:35    Post subject:
Buy won from Asda and if you fuck it up when flashing it you can exchange it without them delving too deep . Wink
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[sYn]
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PostPosted: Thu, 7th Sep 2006 00:16    Post subject:
I bought a core from ebay (thinking it was a premium.. errk.. I hate ebay).. still I now have one on its way for a horribly expensive price of £160 (plus £20 p&p Sad.. figure I can sell it again if I really hate it Razz). Once I find out what dvd drive I have I will get to the flashing, does anyone have a guide to the process? Can it mess up? If it does, is it reflashable?

I'm going to go buy a memory card at some point soon and start downloading the games tonight. Any specific burning methods, the last console I used pirate games on was a PS1.

Edit

Oh and if anyone wants to put a list of games/releases I should get.. that would rock.. Smile!
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PostPosted: Thu, 7th Sep 2006 00:25    Post subject:
AnimalMother wrote:
I would really recommend a hard drive, otherwise you can't play all the demos and videos you can get on the standard free live service. Plus, you'll need to buy a memory unit if you don't get a hard drive which will cost a fair amount, and there are plans for games to use it in aiding performance and such.

They are really hard to get hold of outside of a premium package too, at least in the UK anyway.
PCWORLD ftw.
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[sYn]
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PostPosted: Thu, 7th Sep 2006 00:51    Post subject:
They're selling them in game now too.. although I plan on moding a normal HDD to work Wink.. anyway.. ANSWER MY OTHER POST BITCHES!
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PostPosted: Thu, 7th Sep 2006 01:44    Post subject:
[quote="[sYn]"]does anyone have a guide to the process? Can it mess up? If it does, is it reflashable?

theres a nice guide on xbox-scene for both drives. You can mess it up if you copy the wrong key or thing but it is reversible, just flash the original that you backup. Recommend not to use the autoflasher, people have had problems and sometimes it overwrites ur original backup in which case u r screwed.

I'm going to go buy a memory card at some point soon and start downloading the games tonight. Any specific burning methods, the last console I used pirate games on was a PS1.

if u get games that are prepatched u just need to use clonecd and burn it at 2.4x speed.

Oh and if anyone wants to put a list of games/releases I should get.. that would rock..

recommend you get games that are prepatched. Once you get some going you can find other releases that need u to merge the SS.
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whoKnows
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PostPosted: Thu, 7th Sep 2006 06:45    Post subject:
Hey what a coincidence syn. I ordered a xbox 360 premium two days ago, it's due to arrive today. Although i'm not planning to flash it anytime soon. Will buy TDU on friday after work Smile I'm also interested in a list of games wich to look out for, tia Wink
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PostPosted: Thu, 7th Sep 2006 09:28    Post subject:
dead rising!





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PostPosted: Thu, 7th Sep 2006 17:49    Post subject:
Samsung is the best drive to have (stealth firmware, usb flashable etc) but cool thing about also having a HDD is that you can also play normal xbox backups, well the ones that are compatable anyway, so thats another good reason to get a hdd, there are a few already flashed sammys on ebay. I bought one for £200 including p+p (core) but I alrady had a premium at home for which i have a hdd but it had an hitachi drive which im now selling!
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PostPosted: Thu, 7th Sep 2006 18:15    Post subject:
sell it to [sYn]
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[sYn]
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PostPosted: Fri, 8th Sep 2006 14:18    Post subject:
Ok the xbox arrived this morning. I have a Hitachi drive, I got the OPA-XTREME-HITACHI-7IN1-V2_1 firmware from the usual source, although I am a little concerned about its authenticity mainly because if it is fake, ill have a nice brick on my hands, but ill go for it anyway! Can someone show me a nice guide for the process? I downloaded one but it doesnt seem to have very much information on the hitachi setup..

Whats all this stuff about "grounding" your xbox?

thanks!
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PostPosted: Fri, 8th Sep 2006 14:30    Post subject:
that firmware is not a fake
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hiatus_gsw
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PostPosted: Fri, 8th Sep 2006 15:46    Post subject:
you mean to say, Geebee's guide v40 did not help. I thought it was pretty comprehensive. Also search for Textbook's editted version(41), has lot of diagrams and stuff. Hitachi si slightly more involved than the Samsung drives because of the whole setting the modeb thing.
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[sYn]
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PostPosted: Fri, 8th Sep 2006 18:48    Post subject:
Oh poop! So, I just flashed the drive and tried to boot dead rising with no luck at all.. it reads the disk and does nothing else. If I put an audio CD into the drive it works fine, so I'm guessing that means its not bricked? Everything seemed to go ok.. not quite sure whats wrong. Going to try and get hold of an original to test it out.. What do you guys think? What happens if the firmware HASNT worked?

Im using Memorex DVD+R Double Layer dvd's btw.. the only ones I could find in town Wink!

Windows shows the disk as being empty.. Neutral


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DeMoN064




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PostPosted: Fri, 8th Sep 2006 18:51    Post subject:
Hitachi's are very problematic when it comes to Media, and what drive you use to burn the media with. (Another reason why i'm still not really wanting to get an xbox 360 yet)

What drive and media are you using to burn the games onto?

You will need to change the bitsetting or whatever its called of your DVD-R drive i guess. Google DVDInfopro Wink
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[sYn]
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PostPosted: Fri, 8th Sep 2006 18:55    Post subject:
DeMoN064 wrote:
Hitachi's are very problematic when it comes to Media, and what drive you use to burn the media with. (Another reason why i'm still not really wanting to get an xbox 360 yet)

What drive and media are you using to burn the games onto?


Media as above, the drive is a Sony DVD RW DW-D56A from a Sony Vaio VGN FS 195VP
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DeMoN064




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PostPosted: Fri, 8th Sep 2006 18:59    Post subject:
What software are you using to burn it? , Do you have DVD Decryptor or nero?
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[sYn]
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PostPosted: Fri, 8th Sep 2006 19:04    Post subject:
Clone CD as stated in the NFO (also followed a guide).. we're checking the bit setting stuff now..

*checked it*

Seems it was not on the correct bit setting, we are going to burn again and test.. shame these disks are so fucking expensive Razz
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[sYn]
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PostPosted: Fri, 8th Sep 2006 20:42    Post subject:
FFS the next dvd we burned with the bit set correctly still didnt work. I got a real disk off a friend and it seems my seccond hand Xbox has a fucking parental code on it, which obviously I don't know, so I cant do ANYTHING. This is really pissing me off.

Does anyone know how to set the xbox to factory settings?
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PostPosted: Fri, 8th Sep 2006 21:10    Post subject:
[sYn] wrote:
FFS the next dvd we burned with the bit set correctly still didnt work. I got a real disk off a friend and it seems my seccond hand Xbox has a fucking parental code on it, which obviously I don't know, so I cant do ANYTHING. This is really pissing me off.

Does anyone know how to set the xbox to factory settings?


I think you have to call customer support.
Quote:

If the parent forgets the new pass code, too, then he or she can call customer support to get the console-specific reset code that clears the Flash settings.


Dunno.
hehe, found some wierd shit from

mooseman93

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Re: Parental Control
To reset the Parental Controls code type in the code X, Y, Left Trigger, X

then you can change the settings and make a new code or disable it. To disable the code, go to the code part and press start.


Sounds bogus like hell, but try it anyway Very Happy
http://forum.teamxbox.com/showthread.php?p=7984528


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[sYn]
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PostPosted: Fri, 8th Sep 2006 21:19    Post subject:
haha yeah nothing.. im on the phone to support now and they dont have a clue Razz.. useless!
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[sYn]
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PostPosted: Fri, 8th Sep 2006 21:41    Post subject:
ok they reset the settings and the real game is working.. so im guessing its the burn process that is fucked..

When i put the DVD into my windows machine it says it is empty.. when i put it in the XBOX it reads it for a while and then reverts back to "open tray" .. thoughts? Advice? Using latest cloneCD..
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DeMoN064




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PostPosted: Fri, 8th Sep 2006 21:55    Post subject:
What file dates are on the firmware? You might need to use a newer one. With the mediacheck v2 patch.
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PostPosted: Fri, 8th Sep 2006 22:04    Post subject:
Im in quite the same situation as you were a week ago sYn. Bought a 50 inch lcd projection tv yesterday and kind of want to get a 360 now Smile

I bought my modded ps, ps2 and xbox from a swedish "professional" mod-webpage called psxcare.com and im considering buying the 360 from that place as well. My choices are the following:

Xbox 360 Core XTREME - 300€
Xbox 360 Core XTREME DUAL FIRMWARE - 400€
Xbox 360 Premium XTREME - 450€
Xbox 360 Premium XTREME DUAL FIRMWARE - 550€

You can add 50€ to be guaranteed a Samsung-drive.

All of them have the xtreme-firmware installed and with the dual ones you can apparently swap between factory and modded firmware.

The big minus as i see is that you get a one year warranty from psxcare.com but the original Microsoft-warranty is void from the get go since it's modded.

So i guess the questions i have are:
-Is the dual firmware-switch necessary?
-Premium or Core?
-Buy the 360 today or wait half a year for better and maybe safer mods?
-Is the Samsung-drive worth 50€?

Im also considering buying a Pioneer 111D dvd-recorder as it is the recommended 360-backup recorder.



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PostPosted: Fri, 8th Sep 2006 22:38    Post subject:
Well i have a hiachi too and flashed with the firmware i got.. i tried with a burner i had and it didnt work so i bought a 111D and all burns work great. Also try the HDD and Charger tricks Smile


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[sYn]
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PostPosted: Sat, 9th Sep 2006 01:44    Post subject:
DeMoN064 wrote:
What file dates are on the firmware? You might need to use a newer one. With the mediacheck v2 patch.


I used the reccomended firmware on xbox-scene Sad! Stupid thing... gonna try a different burner.. im pretty sure its the burner now as surely I would see something other than this? Can someone let me know if a burned Xbox game shows anything in windows.. or what error occurs if the burn is bad?
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[sYn]
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PostPosted: Sat, 9th Sep 2006 02:46    Post subject:
Ok so I used the OPA-XTREME-HITACHI-7IN1-V2_1 firmware.. I double checked with a seccond download and its the correct size etc.. so surely this is a burning issue. The only burner in the house that supports bit checking is the one I used.. can i use the other burners? Can anyone confirm that the PAL release of dead rising works with this firmware? what about saints row? Im getting that now to test!

This is really pissing me off Sad!
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