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 Posted: Sat, 15th Jul 2006 17:17 Post subject: My friend died |
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My buddy was fighting meth addiction and mental illness. It got to the point where I couldnt hang out with him anymore, and I had to turn my back on him for a while. We hadnt really talked much in the last year or so. Saturday he stopped over and seemed to be turning his life around. He was acting normally, and speaking like the worst was behind him. I told myself at that moment that his efforts warrented our freindship to resume. I was so proud of him, and felt good about thinking that we could hang and be best buds like the old days. Later that evening I went to his house and picked him up, and we went to a strip club. We had a great time. Not a drunk fest, but just hanging old school. Sunday he hung himself with a dog leash. I never told him why I stayed away and how I felt about his great efforts to fight his illness. This wasnt how things were supposed to end, and he went to his grave thinking the entire world had turned there back on him. I just want every one to know that Nick was a great person, and didnt deserve to suffer the way he did. Thanks for listening, and live every day like it could be your last, and cherish the brief time that we have to be alive on this earth. Thank You
http://www.legacy.com/omaha/Obituaries.asp?Page=LifeStory&PersonID=18443674
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deelix
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| Posted: Sat, 15th Jul 2006 17:21 Post subject: |
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Feel sorry for ya. Anyone who fucks around in this thread should be perm banned imo.
May he RIP.
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Ronhrin
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| Posted: Sat, 15th Jul 2006 17:27 Post subject: |
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may he find the peace he deserves, R.I.P.
He who sacrifices freedom for security deserves neither
- Benjamin Franklin - 1759
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| Posted: Sat, 15th Jul 2006 17:34 Post subject: |
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well I wouldnt be offended, If some of the cold hearted ones messed with this thread. Its the internet, and its a common thing. But I feel most people are good. I just needed to say things, and type a bit. And just to know that someone is listening. Thank You so much for the support.
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| Posted: Sat, 15th Jul 2006 17:39 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Sat, 15th Jul 2006 17:45 Post subject: |
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May he rest in peace and if someone fucks this thread up I will just snap. I know how it is to lose someone my sister died 2 years ago 
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| Posted: Sat, 15th Jul 2006 18:33 Post subject: |
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that's what nforce's official bitchin spot is for: posting your friends death 
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Demonium
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| Posted: Sat, 15th Jul 2006 18:37 Post subject: |
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What an heartless bastard that leaves his girlfriend and kids in vain.
RIP nevertheless.
jenni <3
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Jenni
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| Posted: Sat, 15th Jul 2006 18:42 Post subject: |
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I have to agree with Demonium. Although I don't want to talk ill of the dead, he is indeed a swine. For a man to even contemplate taking drugs that can alter mental stability when he has children to take care of, does not deserve our sympathy more our derision.
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| Posted: Sat, 15th Jul 2006 18:44 Post subject: |
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| Jenni wrote: | | I have to agree with Demonium. Although I don't want to talk ill of the dead, he is indeed a swine. For a man to even contemplate taking drugs that can alter mental stability when he has children to take care of, does not deserve our sympathy more our derision. |
You can't judge a mentally ill person, he lived in his own reality and his sick mind is what killed him.
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Jenni
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| Posted: Sat, 15th Jul 2006 18:47 Post subject: |
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I disagree. He was mentally straight enough to start taking drugs.
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| Jenni wrote: | | I disagree. He was mentally straight enough to start taking drugs. |
Yeah, but maybe he tought it would help his situation. And it made it worse, and he couldn't stop etc. Many things can make people suicidal
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| Posted: Sat, 15th Jul 2006 19:34 Post subject: |
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Ok, lets stop talking about someone that noone here knew (except for Ass_Issues).
No need to spit on the dead, will not change anything.
Sig too big.
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| Posted: Sat, 15th Jul 2006 19:41 Post subject: |
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| Spun[k] wrote: | Ok, lets stop talking about someone that noone here knew (except for Ass_Issues).
No need to spit on the dead, will not change anything. |
Neither will acting as if you care for this person.
"Techniclly speaking, Beta-Manboi didnt inject Burberry_Massi with Benz, he injected him with liquid that had air bubbles in it, which caused benz." - House M.D
"Faith without logic is the same as knowledge without understanding; meaningless"
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TheSaint
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| Posted: Sat, 15th Jul 2006 20:48 Post subject: |
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careface...
anyways wich mod deleted my post?
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Jenni
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| Posted: Sat, 15th Jul 2006 21:26 Post subject: |
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| deelix wrote: | | Yeah, but maybe he tought it would help his situation. And it made it worse, and he couldn't stop etc. Many things can make people suicidal |
But this guy had stopped taking drugs.
Lets face it, he's put himself time and time again ahead of his own family. |
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| Posted: Sat, 15th Jul 2006 22:04 Post subject: |
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| Jenni wrote: | | I disagree. He was mentally straight enough to start taking drugs. |
You don't know anything about mental illnesses so I think you should stay away from this thread altogether because you're going into your myopic rage.
It's sad when someone kills themself. Did he not leave a message or a note to say why, or explain any problems? Have you spoke to his missus to see if there were any problems gonig on that he didn't tell you about? |
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deelix
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Something simular happend to a friend of mine. His mother suicided. Really sad.
And i am pretty sure she loved him. So i think this mental problems happens very spontaneous.
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Jenni
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| Posted: Sat, 15th Jul 2006 22:30 Post subject: |
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Well Sublime you don't much about anything, being still a kid and all that. If you did know anything about having a family, then you would know that your family is everything. He was mentally okay enough to start taking drugs, so we're not talking about a cabbage here. He knew the evils of drugs that a given person can handle and he stopped using them. So all in all we're not talking about someone who is so off their head they don't know which planet they're on. He couldn't handle life so he took the easy way out and his kids suffer because of it. Shame he died, even more of a shame he chose to reproduce. It's his kids I feel sorry for, but not him.
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deelix
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But doing drugs can fuck you up and make you suicidal, right?
And if he had serious issues, maybe he tought enough is enough, and ended his life. But yeah, its all pretty fucked up. And i don't think a person think when he does a thing like that. It could be pure rage. Like some cases in usa where the father kill his whole family, and then kill himself. And the day before he was happy and gave the kids hugs... very spontanious reactions maybe caused by drugs or leak of some kind of vitamin or other important thing. Some chemical error in the brain or some shit.
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Jenni
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| Posted: Sat, 15th Jul 2006 22:51 Post subject: |
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Sounds like you're making excuses for the inexcusable.
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deelix
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| Posted: Sat, 15th Jul 2006 22:57 Post subject: |
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/checking clue
*learned new word*
Yeah, it could be a reason Ass_Issues dosn't want to hang out with him anymore.
Im just saying taking away your life (in most cases) are a hard decision. And if he didn't have any feelings at all he could be an psycopath. Well, Ass_Issues know him as a person so i don't know. He may be a sick guy who just wanted to make his family cry... but i doubt it.
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| Posted: Sat, 15th Jul 2006 23:33 Post subject: |
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@ass_issues
When someone truly wants to die there is nothing anyone can do about it. You can be there to listen, help out, or support but in the end everything is up to them.
I don’t think you had to tell him why you stayed away. He probably knew, and never blamed you. I can understand how you might feel like that. People that are into some serious drugs know why other people stay away.
Lost a relative who was also a roommate (More often then not) He was a very close friend Before he died he and his wife lived with me for about 5 months. (I have never seen someone work so hard at being lazy in my whole life as this wife, didn’t even pick up after herself.) 3 weeks before he died I had a huge blow up with him. He started building a kayak in my front room and vacuumed up GLUE and wood chips with my vacuum. Ohh and he broke a chair. I was just mad because I found this out on my own, he never told me himself. 1 week before I lost him he stopped by and fixed the chair plus helped my fix my greenhouse, we had dinner. I remember hugging him good-bye. Worrying because he was on a motorcycle. Last time I saw him. I think his loss would of been so much harder for me if I had been mad or not talking to him at the time.
(did this guy have a family, I don't remember reading that)
Also A lot of mentally ill self medicate with drugs. It pretty much goes hand and hand. Other people that start start off with these drugs slowly, some can be functioning addicts for quite a while. For the most part they don't even see the damage it does to their families because they think they have it under control. I have had lots of contact with addits while working at the hospital. I feel sorry for a lot of them. I can’t help it. Some of them have had such horrible lives. If I had some of their lives I would wanna be high too, who wants to live with some of their memories.
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| Posted: Sun, 16th Jul 2006 01:27 Post subject: |
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Everyones opinion is correct, because he only knows the truth, and hes gone.
I am just as pissed at him for the same reasons. He took the bitches way out. Plain and simple
Yes, he had a family, and he lost them due to his growing mental issues. He didnt get on the ice for almost 2 years after the break up, when he went belly up. He had very deep rooted mental health problems his whole life. It seems that if you are prone to these things you can fight it from your teens to mid or late twentys, then it just takes over. He was not a piece of shit. He was a good money earning, supportive and caring person for his family. I tell you what, when I go down ill be fighting all the way. Jenni and The Saint are both right why give a shit about a stranger that didnt even care or respect themselves. Thats why im bitching, because its stupid and pointless thing to do. On top of that, he could have walked right across the street to a wooded area and done the job. But instead he does it right in his poor mothers living room for them to find him. Its the most selfish act in the world to take your own life.
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| Cunt wrote: | | Well Sublime you don't much about anything, being still a kid and all that. If you did know anything about having a family, then you would know that your family is everything. |
I have experience with people who have taken drugs, come off them, gone back on etc. and developed mental illness from them too. I don't have a kid, but I know that people with mental illnesses are uncontrollable. They have some BEHAVIOUR problems that they are aware of, but often the real problems are those things which they can't control.
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He was mentally okay enough to start taking drugs, so we're not talking about a cabbage here. He knew the evils of drugs that a given person can handle and he stopped using them. |
Just because he stopped he may have been worse. Most mentally ill people are ok on drugs, they act like a standard druggie, and their mental illness doesn't come into effect. It's often on the come down that it's triggered again but it's in a hyper state and works double time, and is more unpredictable.
| Cunt wrote: | | So all in all we're not talking about someone who is so off their head they don't know which planet they're on. |
You've never been in a delisusional state from alchohol or adrenaline? You've never had a situation where you've done something and then later reflected back with little memory of it? Even when you were perfectly alcohol and drug free? He was mentally ill. You don't know how severe his problem was and just because he did an ordinary thing such as go out for a night it may have been a shock to him later on, you just don't know.
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He couldn't handle life so he took the easy way out and his kids suffer because of it. Shame he died, even more of a shame he chose to reproduce. It's his kids I feel sorry for, but not him. |
Well obviously it was a cowards way out, but it's not his kids fault and there are worse things in life than to grow up without a dad. It's not a shame the kids were born at all, it's a shame they had to have the dad they did, but that's life. you can't help those situations.
I also don't think he would want pity from you or anyone else either so don't tear yourself up over it. |
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