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HubU
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http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6981286511461816014&q=korean+police
This kind of thing pisses me off in a so called "democratic country".
Fucking fascist bastard, those guys should be sentenced, but NO, they are heroes !
Sick police system...
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Swinefur
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| Posted: Thu, 16th Feb 2006 19:40 Post subject: |
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Police brutality anyone?
Glad I ain't living in that shit country, North Korea really should take over them like now.
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| Posted: Thu, 16th Feb 2006 19:51 Post subject: |
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lol wtf, north korea is far worse, the last properly communistic country on the planet.
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Swinefur
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| Posted: Thu, 16th Feb 2006 19:55 Post subject: |
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| D_A_Kuja wrote: | | lol wtf, north korea is far worse, the last properly communistic country on the planet. |
Show us how the DPRK is far more worse then.
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| Posted: Thu, 16th Feb 2006 20:05 Post subject: |
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Many extreme and severe violations of human rights occur throughout the North Korean penal system including:
- Systematic use of torture
- Both public and secret executions
- Use of human beings in sadistic chemical and biological weapons research and pseudo-'medical' experimentation
- Arbitrary and brutal imprisonment with no trial or access to defense counsel
- Extreme deprivation and starvation (one daily ration is 100g of broken corn)
- Intense forced labor in factories, mines, farms, underground military facilities.
(Stopping or slowing down production is often punished by starvation or even, immediate execution.)
- Frequent 'accidents', disfigurement and death due to oppressive conditions, as well as intentional killings for no reason to create a climate of terror.
The nation is characterized by injustice, such as:
- No due process in a 'justice' system whose only function is to serve the interests of the state.
- Arbitrary public execution, both public and in secret underground jails
- Punishment of up to 3 generations of a family (a persons parents and children) for the accusations against 1 family member
- Caste/Class system based on hereditary family background limits opportunities and/or internally exiles at least 2/3 of North Korea's people
- Imprisonment or execution of anyone who attepts to defect to South Korea or who has had contact with South Korean, Japanese or American groups, such as South Korean Christian groups that try to rescue North Koreans hiding in China.
- Extreme rascism and nationalism such that pregnant women forcibly repatriated to North Korea from China who are found to have been impregnated by 'foreign' men are subject to forced abortion or forced into labor by kicking them and then (if it survives) made to smother their newborn child. (According to some reports, the broken, dead bodies of these newly born children are then collected and used for some kind of 'medicine' for party elites.)
anything more you have to say?
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Swinefur
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| Posted: Thu, 16th Feb 2006 20:09 Post subject: |
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| D_A_Kuja wrote: | Many extreme and severe violations of human rights occur throughout the North Korean penal system including:
- Systematic use of torture
- Both public and secret executions
- Use of human beings in sadistic chemical and biological weapons research and pseudo-'medical' experimentation
- Arbitrary and brutal imprisonment with no trial or access to defense counsel
- Extreme deprivation and starvation (one daily ration is 100g of broken corn)
- Intense forced labor in factories, mines, farms, underground military facilities.
(Stopping or slowing down production is often punished by starvation or even, immediate execution.)
- Frequent 'accidents', disfigurement and death due to oppressive conditions, as well as intentional killings for no reason to create a climate of terror.
The nation is characterized by injustice, such as:
- No due process in a 'justice' system whose only function is to serve the interests of the state.
- Arbitrary public execution, both public and in secret underground jails
- Punishment of up to 3 generations of a family (a persons parents and children) for the accusations against 1 family member
- Caste/Class system based on hereditary family background limits opportunities and/or internally exiles at least 2/3 of North Korea's people
- Imprisonment or execution of anyone who attepts to defect to South Korea or who has had contact with South Korean, Japanese or American groups, such as South Korean Christian groups that try to rescue North Koreans hiding in China.
- Extreme rascism and nationalism such that pregnant women forcibly repatriated to North Korea from China who are found to have been impregnated by 'foreign' men are subject to forced abortion or forced into labor by kicking them and then (if it survives) made to smother their newborn child. (According to some reports, the broken, dead bodies of these newly born children are then collected and used for some kind of 'medicine' for party elites.)
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American propaganda.
Got a video or something?
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| Posted: Thu, 16th Feb 2006 20:15 Post subject: |
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lol wtf, north korea being a real communist country already implies torture, execution and many other kinds of injustice.
beating up demonstrating people isnt nearly as bad as execution for just voicing your opinion.
these people could as well not demostrate and nothing would happen to them,
a north korean who accidentally slipped his tongue once would already be dead.
there is a big differene between being beaten up for trying to "fight" back,
and getting executed due to saying what you think or even just a rumour maybe.
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Swinefur
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| Posted: Thu, 16th Feb 2006 20:18 Post subject: |
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| D_A_Kuja wrote: | lol wtf, north korea being a real communist country already implies torture, execution and many other kinds of injustice.
beating up demonstrating people isnt nearly as bad as execution for just voicing your opinion.
these people could as well not demostrate and nothing would happen to them,
a north korean who accidentally slipped his tongue once would already be dead.
there is a big differene between being beaten up for trying to "fight" back,
and getting executed due to saying what you think or even just a rumour maybe. |
Ok, so you are saying that you would rather bleed to death rather then getting an immediate death?
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HubU
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Mutantius
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| Posted: Thu, 16th Feb 2006 20:25 Post subject: |
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| Swinefur wrote: | | D_A_Kuja wrote: | lol wtf, north korea being a real communist country already implies torture, execution and many other kinds of injustice.
beating up demonstrating people isnt nearly as bad as execution for just voicing your opinion.
these people could as well not demostrate and nothing would happen to them,
a north korean who accidentally slipped his tongue once would already be dead.
there is a big differene between being beaten up for trying to "fight" back,
and getting executed due to saying what you think or even just a rumour maybe. |
Ok, so you are saying that you would rather bleed to death rather then getting an immediate death? |
Are you insane?
Everyone know that the North Koreans has a extreme and brutale dictatorship, those who are not willing to join the army are left to rot and forced to eat everything they can put in their mouth. If the citizens tries to escape from the country they get executed.
Wow that sounds alot better then South Korea eh?
Evidence:
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Amnesty International and other human rights organizations accuse North Korea of having one of the worst human rights records of any nation, severely restricting most freedoms, including freedom of speech and freedom of movement, both inside the country and abroad.
Refugees have testified the existence of detention or concentration camps with estimated 150,000 to 200,000 inmates, and reported torture, starvation and slave labor [4]. Japanese television aired what it said was footage of a prison camp [5]. In some of the camps, former inmates say the annual mortality rate approaches 25% [6]. A former prison guard and army intelligence officer once said that in one camp, chemical weapons were tested on prisoners in a gas chamber [7]. According to a former prisoner, pregnant women inside the camps have either forced abortions or the newborn child is killed [8]. None of these claims can be verified, as North Korea denies them and does not grant entry to independent human rights observers.
Less often discussed are the human rights implications of North Korea's famine, which killed between 600,000 and 3.5 million people, mostly during the 1990s [9][10] [11]. By 1999, food and development aid reduced famine deaths, but North Korea's continuing nuclear program led to a decline in foreign aid. In the spring of 2005, the World Food Program reported that famine conditions were in imminent danger of returning to North Korea , and the government was reported to have mobilized millions of city-dwellers to help rice farmers [12][13]. However, the 2005 cereal harvest has said to have reached 4.6 million tonnes (a 10% increase in comparison with 2004), that is to say the best harvest for the past ten years. |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_korea#Human_rights
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Lutzifer
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| Posted: Thu, 16th Feb 2006 22:31 Post subject: |
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didnt the north koreans try to enforce a "proper" haircut at some point? Redamndiculous 
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| Posted: Thu, 16th Feb 2006 23:22 Post subject: |
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is there anything the north koreans didnt try to enforce just for the sake of living up to stalinism?
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| Posted: Thu, 16th Feb 2006 23:36 Post subject: |
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hahahaha, now that you put it like that
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| Posted: Thu, 16th Feb 2006 23:38 Post subject: |
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Swine...somethings are bs....but the injustices and horrible acts that goes on in NK are true, least according to the UN, Amnesty, Red Cross and Dr's Without borders....but i guess they dont know anything right? NK is paradise...?
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| Posted: Fri, 17th Feb 2006 00:17 Post subject: |
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south korea is basically like japan, they have a very high life standard, nothing like north korea.
their police is pretty brutal in demos but apart from that its a pretty safe country.
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| Posted: Fri, 17th Feb 2006 00:18 Post subject: |
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communism is bad but facism isnt always bad.
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| Posted: Fri, 17th Feb 2006 00:20 Post subject: |
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This is how i see it.
Communism=BAD
Facism= Half Bad
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| Posted: Fri, 17th Feb 2006 00:23 Post subject: |
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Mutantius
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| Posted: Fri, 17th Feb 2006 00:23 Post subject: |
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| kirkblitz wrote: | This is how i see it.
Communism=BAD
Facism= Half Bad |
Ehmm Communism is a wonderful thing though still incredible unrealistic.
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| Posted: Fri, 17th Feb 2006 00:25 Post subject: |
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I disagree, communism is the devil.
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Mutantius
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| Posted: Fri, 17th Feb 2006 00:29 Post subject: |
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Why? Man is the devil.
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| Posted: Fri, 17th Feb 2006 00:31 Post subject: |
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Because Communism just causes to many problems. It seems like anytime communism pops up some country gets in a war.
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| Posted: Fri, 17th Feb 2006 00:33 Post subject: |
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Ehmm Capitalism conducts a more aggresive view on man. And the country which is the father of capitalism (USA) starts plenty of wars.
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| Posted: Fri, 17th Feb 2006 00:36 Post subject: |
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Im not saying facism hasnt been involved in wars but look at spain when they had franco they werent in a war.
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Mutantius
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| Posted: Fri, 17th Feb 2006 00:37 Post subject: |
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So?
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