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Ronhrin
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Posted: Tue, 6th Dec 2005 10:52 Post subject: Starforce 3.5+ VMware ? |
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following my recent post http://www.nfohump.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=18442
just felt like making a new one, as I said, I've tried to install VMWare and within a windows VMware enviroment, installed X3 reunion, and the game just worked without sfn nightmare or any other kind of emulation. please post here if you try and have the same great result, so then maybe we make sure we beat starforce 3.5+
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[sYn]
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Posted: Tue, 6th Dec 2005 11:01 Post subject: |
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But surely installing it inside of VMware will see a fairly large drop in performance?
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Ronhrin
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Posted: Tue, 6th Dec 2005 11:13 Post subject: |
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so is the long waited IDE Jammer from DT Team, VMWare released a new version the past week, but that's not the point, the point is exploring ways to play starforce games without extreme measures like IDE unplugging, as for the perfomance, X3 is a very heavy game, but even so, (if you select VMWare hardware options to maximum, you should not have a huge drop of perfomance, just slow down antialiasing a little and some other options, and the game should run just fine, I'm now downloading Prince of Persia, when it ends I will try that one, I can already see next Mirror release of a SF game will be "just install the game within a VMWare enviroment", lol
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Posted: Tue, 6th Dec 2005 11:17 Post subject: |
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*changed thread title to make it clear what the thread is about and to limit off topic posts*
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Ronhrin
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Posted: Tue, 6th Dec 2005 11:21 Post subject: |
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just make your tryouts and post if you have the same result as I did!?
He who sacrifices freedom for security deserves neither
- Benjamin Franklin - 1759
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[sYn]
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Posted: Wed, 7th Dec 2005 00:07 Post subject: |
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Could you please tell me how you configured VMWare to make it work??? the steps you followed.
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TheDuck
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Posted: Wed, 7th Dec 2005 00:30 Post subject: |
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CableMunkeh wrote: | X3 = Starforce 3.5.10.6.
I'm quite surprised that no-one has tried this before, VMWare has never been able to run Starforce games as far as I'm aware, and due to the driver hooking Starforce does it demands access to a real machine beyond the level of emulation VMWare can provide.
VMWare is really just a driver in its' own right after all, a hardware abstraction layer sitting on top of the normal Windows one.
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Starforce doesnt use anything special that could cause any conflicts while running under VMware (they lie about it), to detect it they used VMware i/o port, when its blocked SF runs like a charm. It was a pure and half-legal on the other hand blacklisting, now when new VMware is out its possible they fixed this blacklist method.
-TD
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Posted: Wed, 7th Dec 2005 01:49 Post subject: |
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Im too lazy to register on wmware site, do you have any demo links?
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Posted: Wed, 7th Dec 2005 01:59 Post subject: |
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It's neccesary to install windows xp in that environment, in order to make it work, isn't it?
Once installed, what should i do next????
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Posted: Wed, 7th Dec 2005 04:07 Post subject: |
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Posted: Wed, 7th Dec 2005 12:01 Post subject: |
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TheDuck wrote: | CableMunkeh wrote: | X3 = Starforce 3.5.10.6.
I'm quite surprised that no-one has tried this before, VMWare has never been able to run Starforce games as far as I'm aware, and due to the driver hooking Starforce does it demands access to a real machine beyond the level of emulation VMWare can provide.
VMWare is really just a driver in its' own right after all, a hardware abstraction layer sitting on top of the normal Windows one.
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Starforce doesnt use anything special that could cause any conflicts while running under VMware (they lie about it), to detect it they used VMware i/o port, when its blocked SF runs like a charm. It was a pure and half-legal on the other hand blacklisting, now when new VMware is out its possible they fixed this blacklist method.
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Gotcha thanks, knew they used a blacklist and knew they claimed to be incompatible but never actually tried it. Thanks for info.
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Posted: Wed, 7th Dec 2005 19:32 Post subject: |
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what should i do to make the vmware solution work?
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Posted: Wed, 7th Dec 2005 20:58 Post subject: |
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Look if your version of VMWare is latest?
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X_Dror
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Posted: Wed, 7th Dec 2005 20:59 Post subject: |
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A bit off topic, but I didn't want to open a new thread - Can i play X3 by just unplugging my optical drives?
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Posted: Wed, 7th Dec 2005 21:08 Post subject: |
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i get the same error as well.and yes i have the latest,i just got it today off their website.
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Posted: Wed, 7th Dec 2005 23:41 Post subject: |
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why not just get a ide controller card, cost me £13.00 uk
plugin dvd writer, dvd reader
all starforce games work................
and wait for ide jammer
problems solved
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Posted: Thu, 8th Dec 2005 02:00 Post subject: |
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For let the vmware works ...what I have to do??
I've installed it....and now...what I have to do?please give me some manual...not only to me...unless all the people that there are here.....
please tell us something....
goodbye...
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Posted: Thu, 8th Dec 2005 02:14 Post subject: |
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you create a new virtual machine and start it. then you put in a windows or linux boot disc in your drive and install it.
after that you can use it as a 2nd pc.
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Posted: Sat, 10th Dec 2005 10:44 Post subject: |
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Waltgil, what ide controller card did you buy??
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Posted: Sat, 10th Dec 2005 20:01 Post subject: |
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This is a thread about VMWare not about how to generally defeat SF there are loads of threads all over this forum about that, easy to find.
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