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Phluxed
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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Nov 2005 14:16    Post subject: Disappointed in a mod
I've never been temp banned or banned before, and to have my reputation tarnished because of technical info being posted in the pc games forum because there was already a discussion of it going on is very depressing. I don't think I've ever been disappointed in a mod ever in the many years I've been here.

I won't mention any names, but because this is a bitching forum, I guess we get to see what happens to me and what the reach of this mod might actually do. Anyway, I just needed to bitch about it.

Flame me if you please, it's your right here.


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skidrow
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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Nov 2005 14:22    Post subject:
lots of threads about the losing faith in the mods Shocked

Any reasons to fix this gap :<


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ApeX PredatoR
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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Nov 2005 14:23    Post subject:
Well the mod was me and don't be so upset man!

You only got banned for 2 hours for contributing to that technical discussion. The 2 hours are for the fact that you are a regular here and I wanted to take that into consideration.

The fact is that I (and other mods) have warned several times that technical discussions should be held in the appropiate forum. Each time these warnings are ignored and therefor other measures should be used. Other people got banned too and they didn't get off with 2 hours!

You can bitch about it here, there won't be happening anything to you...you act like I'm on your ass all the time now, but that's not true.

So, it's nothing personal but what I tried to acconmplish with that ban seems to work.

So let's have a Heineken and be friends again Smile


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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Nov 2005 14:32    Post subject:
Join the club...

Seriously though, the only person who can tarnish your reputation is you, I wouldn't worry what a mod has said. Plus, virtually every senior member has been, or is, disappointed in a mod.


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ApeX PredatoR
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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Nov 2005 14:39    Post subject:
well why is that?

Let's have this discussion in this thread then. Please come out with names, shirtnumbers an reasons. Gloves off but there will be no banning or shit like that from the stuff that is discussed in this thread.
We're not getting anywhere with a dissappointing post about a mod here and there. Apparantly members have problems with one or more mods and maybe this all can be resolved by actually discussing it with no brakes on.

I don't like the fact that people have problems with the moderation. We actually want to do a good job here and apparantly it's not working.

So please...talk to us.


Injurious wrote:
And then Mabel tripped over a rock and landed in a well and was trapped there with Timmy. Sadly I shot Lassie so no one is saving that bitch!
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Phluxed
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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Nov 2005 14:42    Post subject:
I understand everything thats been said so far, but I've never been specifically warned about talking about tech stuff in the PC game forum. I know people do it on a regular basis. I've actually never, ever read about it in a forum, so I must be missing when these warnings happen.

And I know it was you Apex, and I know why you did it, but it definately pissed me off to see that I'd been banned for something so silly, no matter the length.


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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Nov 2005 14:47    Post subject:
noone will remember you got banned. temp banned for 2h. it's like you flew out of class for a lesson. while others get dispelled from school. no big deal after all.


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Phluxed
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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Nov 2005 14:48    Post subject:
I can say that banning me for something I didn't know I would be banned for, if even for 2 hours, was a serious piss off. A private message would have been courteous.

As a long time member, I've never had a problem with anything you have, or any other mod has done until now. I've had problems with what you guys haven't done on the occasion though. I mean, letting these people arrive on these forums, and shit talk everyone and everything, get away with it. They continue to think they can get away with it and develop big post counts. People like that need to be nipped in the bud.

A site with the content this site does indeed have will attract many people under the age of 15, and though I don't necessarily have a problem with the age of these individuals, their lack of experience (in general, without exception of course) causes them to act immaturely or retaliate where they shouldn't.

On the whole the moderators, I do believe, have done a decent job of filtering the crap, and integrating themselves into the community though.


In response to Toeffy. I don't care if no one remembers I got banned, I'll remember I got banned. This isn't an issue of me not being able to read the forums or whatever, it's something that shouldn't have happened unless I actually did something to flagrantly disregard the rules.




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ApeX PredatoR
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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Nov 2005 14:48    Post subject:
I'm sorry you feel that way, but in almost every thread I look in I have to delete 30, 40 or even 50 posts about technical stuff, protection shit or other stuff and every time I post a message saying that people should post in the appropiate forum I'm just ignored and people continue with what they where doing. I've warned several times with temp bans, but the warnings apparantly weren't enough.
So this time I've temp banned a couple of users including regular members. The "newbs" got a longer temp ban than the regulars. If I'd temp banned the newbs and gave the regulars a warning then that would not have been fair, would it?


Injurious wrote:
And then Mabel tripped over a rock and landed in a well and was trapped there with Timmy. Sadly I shot Lassie so no one is saving that bitch!
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Phluxed
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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Nov 2005 14:52    Post subject:
I don't see a sticky saying anything about it Apex, not in the forum rules. I thought banning was for breaking the rules?

Why not make a sticky saying that posting technical questions in the game discussion forum will get you temp banned. If I had been aware it was as heavily frowned upon as it seems to be, I wouldn't have done it, and made a mental note to never do it.


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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Nov 2005 15:01    Post subject:
well you might have a point there. In that way we have lacked in informing you guys.

*starts making sticky

It's not heavily frowned upon, but it has just gotten out of hand lately. And I thought that lot of members have a problem with game threads glogging up with these kind of posts...


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And then Mabel tripped over a rock and landed in a well and was trapped there with Timmy. Sadly I shot Lassie so no one is saving that bitch!
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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Nov 2005 15:09    Post subject:
im not dissapointed in any mod

well i am with voodoo child because its been so long since i last saw him post


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Phluxed
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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Nov 2005 15:12    Post subject:
I guess we've gotten used to it Apex, at least I have.


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ApeX PredatoR
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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Nov 2005 15:17    Post subject:
alright...so we both are clear then on this subject?
I should have informed/warned more clearly before considering a ban and you should have posted in the correct forum.


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And then Mabel tripped over a rock and landed in a well and was trapped there with Timmy. Sadly I shot Lassie so no one is saving that bitch!
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Phluxed
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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Nov 2005 15:22    Post subject:
Yes.

Everyone's a sheep now and then. If I'm asked a technical question or have an opinion I'm going to post it. Maybe warn the originator of technical discussion. Take the head and the rest will fall Smile


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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Nov 2005 15:23    Post subject:
ApeX PredatoR wrote:
well you might have a point there. In that way we have lacked in informing you guys.

*starts making sticky

It's not heavily frowned upon, but it has just gotten out of hand lately. And I thought that lot of members have a problem with game threads glogging up with these kind of posts...


i swear we had a sticky that said technical stuff in technical section. I maded it i believe.

I think i renamed it:

Sticky: >>> READ ME: USE SEARCH BEFORE OPENING A NEW THREAD

but dunno for sure.

weird Confused


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skidrow
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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Nov 2005 15:24    Post subject:
hmm

No more protection talk. It has its own forum now

i mixed that 1 up. nm Sad


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ApeX PredatoR
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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Nov 2005 15:25    Post subject:
alright, tnx

btw: the sticky's are made Smile

So what more problems do people have with moderators? Please just come out with it so that everyone finally knows what's playing!


Injurious wrote:
And then Mabel tripped over a rock and landed in a well and was trapped there with Timmy. Sadly I shot Lassie so no one is saving that bitch!
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skidrow
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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Nov 2005 15:26    Post subject:
yup, i want opinions 2


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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Nov 2005 15:39    Post subject:
skidrow wrote:
yup, i want opinions 2


me 2 aslong as they are not to harhs
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Phluxed
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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Nov 2005 16:02    Post subject:
I do believe you guys have done a good job seriously. I made my opinions clear earlier, but I don't suspect many people being honest or giving you bad feedback. You're probably the best group of mods I've dealt with, but being the type of person I am, I just have to bitch about something like this to get it off my chest.


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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Nov 2005 16:08    Post subject:
my problem is that people post shit about mods but beat about the bush with it...stuff like "you know who you are" and all that.

Get it out in the open, there will be no repercussions, so that we will have a chance to give our opinion about it...
There's a growing "we dont like the mods" atmosphere going on here but no one is really coming out with his problems.


Injurious wrote:
And then Mabel tripped over a rock and landed in a well and was trapped there with Timmy. Sadly I shot Lassie so no one is saving that bitch!
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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Nov 2005 17:38    Post subject:
stop the hate ppl, mods do a good job most (i'll get flamed if i say all + missing a few mods lately like jenni and voodoo child ) the time. Although we may disagree with some desissions bannings or deleted posts are made with consideration and if it was the deleting or banning of other people we would not be so quick to judge badly.

and yes plz dont say well you bitched as well, actually no i didnt 2 times i just asked why i had been banned/ threatened though the second was a bit harsher yet never a bitch.

anyways this little crappy speech was not due to the embarissing post made earlier but the way i really feel Razz
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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Nov 2005 17:49    Post subject:
you know people are very fast to burn a mod for any temp bann ( which i never see as an issue since its TEMP, but you talk about your rep, i wont get into that) but that should NOT make you get disappointed in them.. apex for example had TONS of deleting posts, moving and banning just last night.. i mean i don't know many other mods including myself who have that much patience and dedication to cleaning the games forum which are a huge headache... give a little break to the guy and the 2 hours is really nothing bud... a fast game or dinner or whatever takes care of it...
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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Nov 2005 17:51    Post subject:
But pleeeeease come on... lets see.. It is an internet forum... Its not like you got banned for all eternity, it was 2 hours and the worst thing would be that your postcount is not as high as it could've been after those 2 hours... Shocked

About mods here, I have no problem with them, I think they do a great work and I love all of you guys... Very Happy



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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Nov 2005 18:08    Post subject:
kosmiq wrote:
But pleeeeease come on... lets see.. It is an internet forum... Its not like you got banned for all eternity, it was 2 hours and the worst thing would be that your postcount is not as high as it could've been after those 2 hours... Shocked

About mods here, I have no problem with them, I think they do a great work and I love all of you guys... Very Happy


is that a piece of shit dangling from your nose? Shocked

MOST mods do an alright job although they are slow. There's a strong bias though and some mods shouldn't be mods at all.


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MAD_MAX333
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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Nov 2005 18:14    Post subject:
Sublime wrote:
kosmiq wrote:
But pleeeeease come on... lets see.. It is an internet forum... Its not like you got banned for all eternity, it was 2 hours and the worst thing would be that your postcount is not as high as it could've been after those 2 hours... Shocked

About mods here, I have no problem with them, I think they do a great work and I love all of you guys... Very Happy


is that a piece of shit dangling from your nose? Shocked

MOST mods do an alright job although they are slow. There's a strong bias though and some mods shouldn't be mods at all.


lol, i think once someone mentioned jokingly that we should make you a mod... rest assured we all had a hardy good laugh for a while...
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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Nov 2005 19:16    Post subject:
lol I know i'm not a mod candidate purely for my opinions although I can control my temper unlike some of you Smile


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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Nov 2005 19:33    Post subject:
HAH thanks for another laugh bud
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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Nov 2005 20:38    Post subject:
Alot of people won't even dare be negative towards the mods, even in a general way, because they're worried they'll get banned. Then there are other people who think brown nosing is the way to go, because they think that'll gain favour or they want to be a mod themselves.

Personally the reason why I don't name anyone is because I don't want to become an enemy of any mod, purely because they'll then go though my posts looking for excuses to ban me, and in the long run it will happen.

What you need to do is set up an anonymous poll, and ask people to vote for which mod they are most disappointed in. That way you can get a general idea of where the problems lie.


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