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Posted: Sat, 16th Jul 2005 16:04 Post subject: Lack Of NoCDs Annoying |
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First of all I don't want to sound ungrateful to the folks who bring us the releases that we all enjoy here. I am sure I will get a few snarky comments from people in this thread along the lines of "stop complaining and learn to crack yourself..." or "buy the game you whiner if you really want the game".
I have been leeching since Commodore 64 days (and yes I have spent thousands of dollars over the years on games I have bought too..yes I am an old fart) and only in recent times have we really seen a problem with games not getting updated NoCD cracks after the game is patched.
It appears that many games now are being released but then ignored by the groups when it gets patched. As we all know many games are buggy when they are first released. It almost seems a waste of effort for the games to be released but then ignored after they are patched.
I know some copy protection schemes are extremely work-intensive to crack like StarForce. Don't view this thread as being ungrateful or not respectful of the work that is involved. I just wish that the same groups who make the release also follow up their hard work with updated NoCD cracks (even if they were to wait a few patches before doing so).
As an example Silent Hunter 3 is a great game and is very popular. It puzzles me why we have not seen an updated NoCD for it.
Lets face it but without updated NoCDs I think the scene is being crippled.
I fully appreciate how dangerous it is for the groups lately. I fully appreciate how their numbers are probably a lot thinner and how much work that must be involved. Perhaps the scene would be better off to try to change their ways a little and focus on some of the more popular titles rather trying to still provide the same "golden age" service that we saw a few years ago. Times have unfortunately changed
Yes, I want a SH3 updated crack 
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Posted: Sat, 16th Jul 2005 16:50 Post subject: Re: Lack Of NoCDs Annoying |
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stop complaining and learn to crack yourself.
buy the game you whiner if you really want the game.
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Posted: Sat, 16th Jul 2005 16:51 Post subject: |
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we must wait for Fairlights and Immersion return..now with Deviance back maybe just maybe some ex FLT or IMS members decide to come back also.., they for sure come back some day . by the way I don't care so much about updates unless an serious bug is fixed...but most of the times the developers don't even mention whats fixed in the damn update.
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Posted: Sat, 16th Jul 2005 20:24 Post subject: |
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HLM owned the DOX scene before they retired. Lets wait which group can fill their rank.
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The Rat
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Posted: Sun, 17th Jul 2005 01:17 Post subject: |
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I must admit that having a lack of updated NOCDs is extremely effective at motivating people to buy the games. The anti-piracy groups have finally found an effective method.
kirkblitz wrote: | You attack other people constantly for not loving blacks or asians or whatever. YOU are the most hateful of us all, you sit there and preach hate toward people who dont like diversity |
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Posted: Mon, 18th Jul 2005 04:06 Post subject: |
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WRONG!
Not having a NOCD patch available will prevent me from purchasing the game. If there is copy-protection involved after I purchase it, then I do not want it. Let someone else run around like a poodle and fetch discs if they like, it is an insult to the consumer.
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The Rat
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Posted: Mon, 18th Jul 2005 08:51 Post subject: |
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sexyjesus wrote: | WRONG!
Not having a NOCD patch available will prevent me from purchasing the game. |
It is not wrong simply because you are the extreme exception to the rule. Not many people will refuse to buy a game simply because it does not have a NoCd crack for the latest patch.
kirkblitz wrote: | You attack other people constantly for not loving blacks or asians or whatever. YOU are the most hateful of us all, you sit there and preach hate toward people who dont like diversity |
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Posted: Mon, 18th Jul 2005 11:14 Post subject: |
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The Rat wrote: | sexyjesus wrote: | WRONG!
Not having a NOCD patch available will prevent me from purchasing the game. |
It is not wrong simply because you are the extreme exception to the rule. Not many people will refuse to buy a game simply because it does not have a NoCd crack for the latest patch. |
I for one would be much more inclined to buy the game if it can't be cracked. I really couldn't stand reading some warez whore's post saying 'i gotZ teh g4me r0F|' when I've just shelled out €50. What would be the fun in buying games then? I'm definitely buying Call of Duty 2 this fall, and I'm hoping it'll be protected by an unholy StarForce 4 protection, no flame intended.
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Posted: Mon, 18th Jul 2005 14:17 Post subject: |
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Just wait for the nea damon tools, im sure it will be greatly improved
edit: oh and its not just the lack of noCD's there arent that many games going uncracked there just aren't many releases because of the time of the year.
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Posted: Mon, 18th Jul 2005 17:55 Post subject: |
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stop complaining and learn to crack yourself.
That's a dumbass remark. In my view, there are only a few people in the world capable of cracking Starforce properly (Or at least putting their talents towards cracking a game). If even a handful could do it, there would be Chaos Theory and Trackmania fixes all over the Web by now. The fact that there isn't shows the complexity of the latest Starforce protection.
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Posted: Mon, 18th Jul 2005 18:17 Post subject: |
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no it shows that the most talented groups have retired or have been busted .
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Posted: Mon, 18th Jul 2005 18:26 Post subject: |
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and that should end this thread
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The Rat
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Posted: Mon, 18th Jul 2005 21:00 Post subject: |
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Quote: | That's a dumbass remark. |
He was just jokingly referring to what I said in my top post (I think). There is always some git who gives a reply like that when someone complains about a lack of a NoCD for a game.
From what I have read StarForce is not particularly hard to crack but it is work intensive. We have already seen many games with the initial release cracked but the patches are ignored.
I would say lack of numbers in the groups is the problem. I would prefer them to spend their time releasing and following up on quality titles rather than releasing every single game they can get their hands on and wasting a lot of effort. It is better to admit that times have changed and concentrate on the more popular titles.
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Posted: Wed, 20th Jul 2005 22:40 Post subject: |
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sexyjesus wrote: | WRONG!
Not having a NOCD patch available will prevent me from purchasing the game. .... |
I agree. With all the games I bought (very few) I use the nocd patch cause I hate to have the cd running all the time or to have an extra image stored on the disk to play the game.
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Posted: Fri, 29th Jul 2005 12:11 Post subject: |
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Havent you noticed how much NoCD-images their instead of NoCD patches. Maybe thats why there is a lack of NoCDs
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Posted: Sat, 30th Jul 2005 01:58 Post subject: |
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areslinux wrote: | Havent you noticed how much NoCD-images their instead of NoCD patches. Maybe thats why there is a lack of NoCDs |
Yawn. You completely missed the point. Mini images or NOCD cracks all have the same purpose.
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Posted: Sat, 30th Jul 2005 23:09 Post subject: |
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Work intensive is an understatement for SF3. No one really wants to spend hundreds of hours painstakingly rewriting the huge starforce sections of exes in asm.
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Posted: Wed, 3rd Aug 2005 19:10 Post subject: |
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Quote: | No one really wants to spend hundreds of hours painstakingly rewriting the huge starforce sections of exes in asm. |
They did it for version 1.0 of all these games. A game like Silent Hunter 3 is pretty popular and deserves to be looked at.
Why not wait a few months until the patches slow down and then crack it (or re-crack it)?
Hell I would be happy with them making uncracked releases and months down the road crack one of the latest patches. The games would be a lot more fun to play. Most retail version 1.0 games are buggy as old hell.
Total waste of their effort to release most v1.0 games.
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Posted: Fri, 12th Aug 2005 13:31 Post subject: |
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A few facts straight:
Deviance == Hoodlum
Farilight = dead
Immersion == nogroup
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Posted: Sat, 13th Aug 2005 11:11 Post subject: |
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dw33p wrote: | A few facts straight:
Deviance == Hoodlum
Farilight = dead
Immersion == nogroup |
And now, HOODLUM = DEVIANCE, I suppose...
*MAVERICK*
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Posted: Sat, 13th Aug 2005 14:45 Post subject: |
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maverick33 wrote: | dw33p wrote: | A few facts straight:
Deviance == Hoodlum
Farilight = dead
Immersion == nogroup |
And now, HOODLUM = DEVIANCE, I suppose...
*MAVERICK* |
Thats what i posted, right? RLD + HLM where deviance before they splitted.
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Posted: Sat, 13th Aug 2005 16:38 Post subject: |
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dw33p wrote: | maverick33 wrote: | dw33p wrote: | A few facts straight:
Deviance == Hoodlum
Farilight = dead
Immersion == nogroup |
And now, HOODLUM = DEVIANCE, I suppose...
*MAVERICK* |
Thats what i posted, right? RLD + HLM where deviance before they splitted. |
And how come Reloaded always threw shit againt Hoodlum?
They said Hoodlum couldn't crack properly when they came from the same group. So I suppose bad cracker formed Hoodlum and good ones Reloaded.
And now? Deviance is Hoodlum in disguise?
*MAVERICK*
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Posted: Sat, 27th Aug 2005 20:00 Post subject: |
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sexyjesus wrote: | WRONG!
Not having a NOCD patch available will prevent me from purchasing the game. If there is copy-protection involved after I purchase it, then I do not want it. Let someone else run around like a poodle and fetch discs if they like, it is an insult to the consumer. |
Same here, I wont buy games I can't play without the CD
I don't mind having the CD in a virtual drive though
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