With all the problems behind the scenes of Warner Bros. and DC’s Justice League, it looks as if the studio is finally moving in a new direction and putting their eggs in better baskets.
Deadline breaks the news of the filmmaking superheroes who will be aligning to tell the origin story of The Joker.
The studio has set The Hangover‘s Todd Phillips to co-write a script with 8 Mile scribe Scott Silver.Phillips will direct the movie, and Martin Scorsese will produce it with Phillips.This will be the first film under a new banner that has yet to be named in which WB can expand the canon of DC properties and create unique storylines with different actors playing the iconic characters.
They’re told that the intention is to make an origin story that isn’t part of any other iteration. The Joker has memorably been part of two Batman movies in the form of Jack Nicholson and Heath Ledger, and was most recently played by Jared Leto in the first Suicide Squad film. He will reprise in the Suicide Squad sequel, they explain, as well as the Harley Quinn spinoff, but this new film will launch the character with a different actor, possibly younger.
The intention is to make a gritty and grounded hard-boiled crime film set in early-’80s Gotham City that isn’t meant to feel like a DC movie as much as one of Scorsese’s films from that era, like Taxi Driver, Raging Bull or The King Of Comedy. I’m told that Phillips and Silver are writing already, but there is nothing firm on where this will fit into the DC schedule.
Almost sounds to good to be true.
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Comic books sell, bro. If you would be a comic fanboi what would you see a generic crime movie set in 80s or a generic crime movie set in 80s but... hold it... with Joker, bro?
You know what people wanted in Suicide Squad? A film about Joker.
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Yeah, it will end in Shia LaBeouf as the Joker. Scorsese leaving the project early on.
Director will be someone who just made a third Annabelle movie, or something.
Yeah, it will end in Shia LaBeouf as the Joker. Scorsese leaving the project early on.
Director will be someone who just made a third Annabelle movie, or something.
One report stated that filmmaker Martin Scorsese was producing the project, but sources tell THR that his involvement is far from assured.
TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"
Also, are they silently scrapping DCEU? Interesting news, if so.
Of course not.
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id hardly call producing 'helming'...
Yes.
TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"
I suppose you're right, it's not like he'd be directing, but still... him being connected at all would be surprising for me.
What I meant by scrapping DCEU is that fragment about a new banner that will be used to expand the canon - especially since it's mentioned they'll use different actors (unless it's different as in 14 years old Joker or something like that). Why would they need a new brand for this?
It's akin to Elseworlds, it was its own imprint to signify the stories weren't canon.
TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"
The reason WB want Scorsese as producer is so that they have access to the high valued talent he has worked with.
Specifically, WB want Leonardo DiCaprio to play Joker. No offer has been made yet, as not even Scorsese himself has formally signed yet. Even if they can't get DiCaprio, WB's plan is to get another A-lister for the title role.
Jared Leto, DCEU's Joker, apparently got caught off guard with the news and made his displeasure known to his agents, and a new agent company has approached him trying to get him to sign with them.
Set it in the Burtonverse and we are all set!
TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"
They are sticking with him in the DCEU continuity. It doesn't make sense to use him in an out of continuity film.
TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"
it doesnt make sense to have an out of continuity film. theyre just muddying the waters on an already less-than-stellar record of comic-based franchises...
Yeah, that's precisely why I initially assumed they're starting to think of scrapping the DCEU brand. It just doesn't make much sense to start making out of continuity movies with different actors, when your shared universe is just barely starting to crawl forward. It's like they're trying to sabotage themselves. Then again, the whole thing was a mess from day one, so I suppose it shouldn't be a surprise.
I wonder what's going to happen if that Joker movie gets made and is a great success. Will they resist the temptation to create a sequel? Because if they start making follow-ups to spin-offs, we will soon have several different continuities and it's gonna be hard to focus on the shared universe instead - especially one that's full of failed attempts.
They are using these new films set outside the DCEU to try an lure bigger filmmakers and actors to the parts that may normally pass since they can be a one off story. That was a big issue with the Marvel films as well since they wanted actors to sign up for 5+ picture deals so it limits the pool of actors as bigger stars do not want to be tied to a character/franchise that long usually.
which is stupid because, as i said, muddies the water with a mishmash of different actors and storylines to the point no one really cares any more about franchises.. and its the franchises that make the big money
plus with 'bigger actors', that means the costs go up. go with less mainstream but decent actors for lower costs and rope them into your long running franchises is the way to go.
i mean marvel GAVE them the fucking blueprint for mega success... why the fuck wont they follow it?
Looking outside of Marvel, whose films will end up successful no matter what, the three recently most successful comic book films in terms of combined box office + critical + audience reception were Deadpool, Logan and Wonder Woman. Each of them were fairly standalone (Deadpool's most explicit connection to the franchise was the use of the same building for the X-Men mansion ) and could belong to any iteration of their respective franchises and still be a success.
If this move gives the filmmakers and WB a chance to tell (even more) different stories than "all the heroes teamed up to take down the blue CGI sky beam", then I believe it's not a bad plan to give it a try with a film (or two). If it doesn't work they can silently and swiftly discontinue the idea.
But if they end up saying the exact same kind of stories, just in a different continuity because reasons, then yeah that's super stupid.
TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"
We learned last summer that Todd Phillips (The Hangover) was working on a standalone origin story for The Joker, and huge news from Variety today indicates that Phillips may have found his Clown Prince of Crime in none other than Joaquin Phoenix!
The site notes that studio negotiations are not yet underway, but that “Phillips has made it clear that Phoenix is the top choice to star.” Additionally, sources tell Variety that “Phoenix has agreed to the role“ in the untitled film.
No make up. If it's an origin story, no make up. Just the red hood. Moided family. A lowly comedian used for bad guys... double crossed... left to die. Do that.
Don't do make up. Don't do crazy. Do desperate. Start with a man with everything to lose and turn him into a mad man with nothin left to lose.
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